Featured Quetta: The death toll in the attack on FC post has risen to ten

[313ghazi]

War is not children' s play, we loose we win, we died and we killed. Part of game...period.

this word game is the problem. I'm not blaming you, but there are too many people in our media, security circles who refer to this conflict as a game and treat it as such.

 

[Moon]

That's the problem, this shouldn't be happening. Soldiers die and so do enemies, but nations tend to learn from their mistakes and improve or change their tactics so as to make sure this doesn't happen again. Not in our case, the entire security apparatus is running around like a headless chicken for the last 2 decades.

On the side note, it's funny on PDF we have senior posters talking about military hardware like jets, cargo planes and what not being acquired by various branches of the forces, that aren't even in the news, yet don't discuss squat about things happening in Balochistan nor about anything being done to fix the issue.

We've managed to talk about jets, cargo planes, helicopters, tanks and whatnot, but not a peep about COIN specific equipment, nobody discussed using HAPS or tethered balloons for border management and ISTAR, no talk of COIN aircrafts, that could potentially replace Cobra's in Balochistan etc...

 

[Tornado23]

Why dont we become responsible citizens and locate the terrorists ourselves.
Does anybody know how to geolocate??

That won't be much a help considering how ISI has trained in that for decades and has been doing it for decades.

 

[Moon]

the weakest nuclear nation -Pakistan!

years of systemic corruption of every level has made us weak and coward and we keep lossing our sons to our enemies!

That's a tag we sadly deserve, not a spine left in this nation, where in the world is a nuclear armed nation so hopeless against 2 bit thugs.

 

[truthfollower]

very very sad

Rest in Peace

no drone or MI35 back up?

 

[Path-Finder]

need an out of box solution.

 

[Moon]

very very sad

Rest in Peace

no drone or MI35 back up?

Nope, but somehow we have to believe that security forces are doing everything to control the situation. And are "up to the task".

 

[truthfollower]

Nope, but somehow we have to believe that security forces are doing everything to control the situation. And are "up to the task".

what happened to ground surveillance radars? it was shown in some program used during operations against ttp

 

[PanzerKiel]

"PDF MRAP Brigade" wants MRAPs without understanding what happened and what was required in this case.

... And then most of us always drag army, GHQ and COAS into FC matters....which is again wrong.... As being highlighted multiple times, MoI is the one responsible for all this..... GHQ has no say in the money, training, equipment or other matters of FC.

 

[maverick1977]

Quetta: The death toll in the attack on FC post has risen to ten
Tuesday, June 1, 2021 22:06
Zainuddin Ahmed, Urdu News, Quetta

No group or individual has claimed responsibility for the latest attack. (File photo: AFP)

The death toll in Monday night's attack on the Frontier Corps on the outskirts of Quetta, the capital of Balochistan, has risen to ten.
Balochistan Home Minister Ziaullah Langove while talking to Urdu News on telephone confirmed that the bodies of ten FC personnel were taken to the Combined Military Hospital in Quetta.
He said that seven FC personnel were also injured in the attack and were admitted to CMH. The condition of one of the injured is said to be critical.
The attack was carried out by unidentified terrorists on Monday evening at the Owais check post of the Frontier Corps Balochistan Gaza Band Scouts 129 Wing at Pir Ismail Ziarat near Marwar, about 70 km east of Quetta.
Extensive coal reserves are found in this mountainous region between Quetta and Bolan. The FC has set up check posts here to protect thousands of miners working in the coal mines.
A senior security official stationed in Quetta said on condition of anonymity that more than 20 assailants armed with sophisticated weapons surrounded the check post from different directions. They fired indiscriminately with Kalashnikovs, sniper rifles and other small arms.

Attacks on security forces in Balochistan have increased in recent days (File Photo: AFP)
According to the security officer, there were nearly 25 officers at the check post at that time who fought for several hours. Ten personnel, including Post Commander Naib Subedar Ijaz Ali, were martyred and seven others were injured in the firing, while six survived.
Provincial Home Minister Zia Langove said that the FC soldiers fought hard. Several terrorists were also killed in the retaliatory and subsequent operation.
On Monday night, the Pakistan Army's public relations department, ISPR, initially confirmed the deaths of four personnel, saying "four to five terrorists were killed and seven to eight were injured in the FC retaliation."
The ISPR had said that an FC vehicle was hit by an IED in Quetta as well as in Turbat, injuring two FC personnel.
The banned separatist organization Baloch Liberation Army claimed responsibility for the Turbat attack, but no group has yet claimed responsibility for the attack on the FC checkpoint at Pir Ismail Ziarat near Quetta.
There have been similar attacks on FC Chowk posts in Pir Ismail Ziarat and adjoining Marwar, Margat, Shahrag and nearby areas before. On May 9, three FC personnel were killed in an attack on an FC outpost in Marwar, and on May 5, a militant attack on border guards in the Zhob district bordering Afghanistan killed seven FC personnel. ۔
It may be recalled that in recent days, there has been an increase in attacks on security forces in Balochistan. In the last one month alone, at least 25 personnel have lost their lives in more than half a dozen attacks on the FC in Balochistan.

کوئٹہ: ایف سی پوسٹ پر حملے میں ہلاکتوں کی تعداد دس ہوگئی

بلوچستان کے دارالحکومت کوئٹہ کے نواح میں فرنٹیئر کور پر پیر کی شب ہونے والے حملے میں ہلاک اہلکاروں کی تعداد دس تک پہنچ گئی۔

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they fought for several hours, wtf situation, no air support??

 

[IceCold]

25 officers at the check post at that time who fought for several hours

@PanzerKiel Can you please comment on the highlighted part. What i fail to understand is that if a checkpost is hit whether FC or Army and a fight is going on lasting up to several hours, where is the backup or aerial support?

 

[Moon]

what happened to ground surveillance radars? it was shown in some program used during operations against ttp

I have absolutely no clue, probably removed them once the fence was set up, can't imagine something like that as a sustainable long term solution.

... And then most of us always drag army, GHQ and COAS into FC matters....which is again wrong.... As being highlighted multiple times, MoI is the one responsible for all this..... GHQ has no say in the money, training, equipment or other matters of FC.

That doesn't mean the Army isn't actively fighting terrorists in Balochistan. May I ask how on earth does a fight go in for hours within the country, against extremely dangerous terrorists without any backup?
There are army officers in FC, are they accountable to GHQ or IM?

... And then most of us always drag army, GHQ and COAS into FC matters....which is again wrong.... As being highlighted multiple times, MoI is the one responsible for all this..... GHQ has no say in the money, training, equipment or other matters of FC.

This feels like a convenient scape goat, Army has a big role in CPEC security does it not?

 

[Signalian]

That doesn't mean the Army isn't actively fighting terrorists in Balochistan. May I ask how on earth does a fight go in for hours within the country, against extremely dangerous terrorists without any backup?
There are army officers in FC, are they accountable to GHQ or IM?

This feels like a convenient scape goat, Army has a big role in CPEC security does it not?

Repeatedly replied such Qs. The basic understanding is missing.

 

[PanzerKiel]

@PanzerKiel Can you please comment on the highlighted part. What i fail to understand is that if a checkpost is hit whether FC or Army and a fight is going on lasting up to several hours, where is the backup or aerial support?

Once a post is wrongly sited, with no mutual support from nearby posts, no backups in the form of mobile or airmobile troops, then this is bound to happen..... I mean there are more than 20000 ARMY troops deployed in Balochistan as well, even then we find majority of the attacks against FC... That's because they have vulnerabilities which they are unable to eliminate....

There are army officers in FC, are they accountable to GHQ or IM?

This feels like a convenient scape goat, Army has a big role in CPEC security does it not?

All officers in FC are accountable to MoI, not GHQ.

This was not an attack on a CPEC project protected by the army.

 

[Signalian]

Once a post is wrongly sited, with no mutual support from nearby posts, no backups in the form of mobile or airmobile troops, then this is bound to happen.....

Good job by insurgent surveyors and monitoring teams for picking out such vulnerabilities.