Qatar: Talks with Pakistan over Mirage 2000-5s

[Paksanity]

remember these are just talks. talks can be for anything but does not mean they will materalise for sure.

Actually, these are just rumours. Take them with a grand pinch of salt.

 

[Windjammer]

Whatever happens, keep this deal in mind..... one may be connected to the other.

http://www.gulf-times.com/story/499358/Qatar-signs-contract-to-purchase-trainer-aircraft-

 

[barbarosa]

I think that it has no need now in the existing of JF 17 and F16.

 

[CHI RULES]

I can't see why not. One should be discerning in what is talked to make sales possible and what it actually means.

All upgrades and modifications require permission from manufacturer. Mirage will be no different. In fact France is more susceptible to succumb to Indian pressure than US. We can recall JF-17 avionics suite saga, can't we?

PAF already did Mirage rose up grade, further money talks.

 

[Windjammer]

I think that it has no need now in the existing of JF 17 and F16.

Although I'm no great fan of MK2, ...but with our Mirage fleet on last legs, a dozen Mirage-2000 armed with R'had ALCM.....can punch big holes into the enemy's HV targets.

 

[CHI RULES]

I dont have any problems with you guys discussing it but PAF explored the option of M2K5s in 02 @ 60 million dollars a pop and rejected it. The additional complications now are firstly Indo French dealings over the Rafale and consequently the French reluctance to deal with PAF, Secondly the new infrastructure needed to maintain the fleet and get acclamatised to the plane and the fact is these planes have been mothballed since the early 2000s so reactivating them would be fun and games especially since the assembly line shut down in 2002 and a lot of Air forces have retired these planes on account of high running costs. If PAF did not make sense of things in 2002 how come it makes sense in the heat of July in 2016?
I would take this news with a pinch of salt and then some pepper.
A

Dear Sir, in how many years we shall be able to replace our Mirage 3-5 and F7Ps if Mirage 2000-5/9 not considered.

Whatever happens, keep this deal in mind..... one may be connected to the other.

http://www.gulf-times.com/story/499358/Qatar-signs-contract-to-purchase-trainer-aircraft-

Dear Sir, as a pro please justify the purchase of Mirage 2005/9.

 

[Windjammer]

Dear Sir, as a pro please justify the purchase of Mirage 2005/9.

Dollar for dollar, i would say buy more used F-16s and upgrade them.....a platform battle tested and proven and we have a well established structure in place for it.

 

[barbarosa]

Although I'm no great fan of MK2, ...but with our Mirage fleet on last legs, a dozen Mirage-2000 armed with R'had ALCM.....can punch big holes into the enemy's HV targets.

Sir! enemy has already MK2 since 1984.

 

[Windjammer]

Sir! enemy has already MK2 since 1984.

Enemy also had MiG-21s since 1964, yet we adopted the F-7 in 1988.... don't compare our capability with theirs.

 

[IceCold]

Enemy also had MiG-21s since 1964, yet we adopted the F-7 in 1988.... don't compare our capability with theirs.

So is there any truth to this rumour or its still just a rumour?

 

[barbarosa]

Enemy also had MiG-21s since 1964, yet we adopted the F-7 in 1988.... don't compare our capability with theirs.

Sir if we can increase its capability more than that then well come.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Although I'm no great fan of MK2, ...but with our Mirage fleet on last legs, a dozen Mirage-2000 armed with R'had ALCM.....can punch big holes into the enemy's HV targets.

Kind sir, if the good qataris are your brothers they should gift it to PAF. They swim in the ocean of money!

Otherwise, your own JF is the best thing to invest that money.

Not inteferring in internal affairs of your good country. But seems like the best thing to move forward with JF.

IF the qataris are wlling to induct some sqs of JF then of course a swap can be made.

Your good country is a central asian and ME power...not the other way round.

All the best with your PAF development. A force critically needed for keeping the peace in your region.

 

[Super Falcon]

Windjammer always supports single engine jet his love affair with single engine jet is unparallel so he can't see above it

I sincerely ask Russian airforce to give a joy ride to our windjammer and few nuts in PAF of Russian knights SU 35 ride so their closed minds can be opened

SU 35 carries more weight
Less fuel than MIRAGE 2000 which our pilots always cry for running costs it does the job
Flies higher than any jet PAFhad in its history
It has canards PAF never used any jet with canards
It has thrust vectoring PAF never experienced
And world top notch AESA

UNRESISTABLE JET

So many things in one platform PAF can do wonders

But first clean the old mess from PAF who can't see horizon of new dawn and era

When 99 percent of airforce having atleast one twin engine air superiority jet what in world stopping PAF

What can one do when he can't get more advanced F-16s? at least to get something as close as possible!

Closer is JF 17 no need mirages

 

[aliyusuf]

It has canards PAF never used any jet with canards

SU-35BM, the version currently being delivered to the Russian air force and sold to the Chinese, has no canards. It doesn't need them. It is already the most maneuverable Russian production fighter.

 

[The SC]

Windjammer always supports single engine jet his love affair with single engine jet is unparallel so he can't see above it

I sincerely ask Russian airforce to give a joy ride to our windjammer and few nuts in PAF of Russian knights SU 35 ride so their closed minds can be opened

SU 35 carries more weight
Less fuel than MIRAGE 2000 which our pilots always cry for running costs it does the job
Flies higher than any jet PAFhad in its history
It has canards PAF never used any jet with canards
It has thrust vectoring PAF never experienced
And world top notch AESA

UNRESISTABLE JET

So many things in one platform PAF can do wonders

But first clean the old mess from PAF who can't see horizon of new dawn and era

When 99 percent of airforce having atleast one twin engine air superiority jet what in world stopping PAF


Closer is JF 17 no need mirages

Maybe delivery time!, Russian air-force first, China second from 2018 and up, Egypt, Venezuela and Vietnam are also inline for it, so expect 2025 or further..
Yes JF-17 block 3 is the answer, but why say no if the deal for the Mirage2k-5 is financially very attractive..