Qatar sending Pakistani pilots for training on the French Rafale

[The SC]

We fought their war with israel that should balance it out....

Pakistan participated with 30 or so pilots, it was very appreciated.. , 1973 war had the biggest, tank battles in history, Air battles where hundreds of aircrafts were dog fighting, huge artillery battles with 10s of thousands of pieces..Special forces operations in the thousands, close combat all over the front..

 

[nana41]

BS big time. The French contract is such that only Qatar AF pilots will train and fly the Rafales. No Pakistanis are allowed to even touch their jets....

BS big time. The French contract is such that only Qatar AF pilots will train and fly the Rafales. No Pakistanis are allowed to even touch their jets....

With such condition,France can never sell its merchandise of death.Any way France has a clever and master of diplomacy Government ,they know how to take care of Indian objection if it is raised.Qatari pilots on the other hand are not capable or experienced enough to handle such technologically advance, complicated and very expencive machines,costing 100 million dollars a piece. If true, Qatari Govt made a wise decision by letting Pakistani piolets take care of these planes.

 

[mrrehan]

PAF carried out combat exercises against the Rafales as far back as in 2006.

http://www.ambafrance-pk.org/Exercises-between-French-and

Very nice

 

[mrrehan]

@Kaptaan

Apparently we must all bow down and go die in Yemen because we must be grateful for the money given in "aid" to us by the GCC, if we are going to use the same logic, why are so many Pakistanis anti U.S? After all, the U.S has propped up Pakistan when the GCC were still herding Camels as I remember my elders telling us how back in the 50s every household used to get special rations branded with messages of gratitude from Uncle Sam.

Hypocrisy is in our blood, the Indians or anyone else don't need to die in Yemen to be treated with respect, just us Pakistanis. I blame our elites, like NS and the guys who retire early to run after cash and serve the Sultans, who regularly bow down their posteriors in front of their GCC masters.

Sacrifice Pakistan for our bank balance, this should be our national motto.

Sadly, if not all, more or less this is what it is.

This news is false. Arabs are never this nice to Pakistanis. We are only their source for cheap labour and mercenaries.

To some extent.

 

[Signalian]

Hi,

@Indus Falcon---that was the moment for pakistan to get out of the trap set for it by the U S and india.

Pak military should have offered everything and anything---but at a very high price---.

Last week pakistan found that it is woefully ill equipped to protect it waters---. With the alliance funds---it could have attained 15 to 20 smaller boats in the 500 to 1500 tonnage---about 4 in the class and type of the 054 and 057 frigates----4s sqdrns of SU34's and 4 sqdrn's of SU35---a cantonment / air base established at Gwadar and one established 100 miles deeper inland.

A buildup of 100 to 150 K troops trained for the Gulf states in the years to come---65% strike force in armor and rest in infantry---. 4 battle quick deployment armored battle groups with 30000 troops in each---stationed in 4 four gulf countries and 30000 troops based at Gwadar cantonment and the second cantonment alongwith Gwadar used for training new recruits.

The first year would have seen the release of 4 military divs to the gulf region and training of 4 new divisions in progress. The required number would have been achieved in 5 years time period and so would have most of the weapons and systems also acquired during that term.

You pakistanis would not have seen this shelling and the kilings of innocent pakistanis---the killings of the innocent kashmiris would also have stpopped---there would be no more threats along the LOC---because now you would have a powerful stick in your hands---.


You pakistanis are murderers of innocent kashmiris---innocent afghanis---innocent iraqis---.

All you had to do after 9/11 was to go in and kiil all the Osama Bin Laden team and hand his dead body to the americans---thus stopping the afghan invasion---which would have resulted in stopping the iraq invasion as well---.

If you had jojned the Yemen alliance and build up ypur military----these innocent kashmiris would not be dying at the hands of indian army---.

You gutless cowards---because of you gutless decisions---over a million and a half muslims have died in afghanistan and thousands are dying in kashmir---.

I wish a day comes when you truly become happy

GCC makes payment for services rendered by Pakistan. GOP and Armed Forces of Pakistan use the money as they want, going opposite to your plan . No frigates, no SU-34/35, no buildup of divs. instead money is used on procurement of weapons not found in your list. You will be enraged then.

Worse, the money from GCC lands in Raiwind and handsome percentages go to PA, PN and especially PAF. Every minister gets a bullet proof SUV.
You will have another hard-slapping go at the Top brass and deal makers of the Armed Forces(PAF first)............yet again.

If only the world was a perfect place

 

[Invictus-Warrior]

This news is false. Arabs are never this nice to Pakistanis. We are only their source for cheap labour and mercenaries.

So what do you think they give you everything for free???
This is international diplomacy not a family relationships
You give some and take some
We have to give them our mercenaries and labour and take back money and their support plain and simple as that
Because our economy is feable right now and it needs a boost

 

[Thorough Pro]

and US refused to train any Pakistani pilots on block 60 for UAE

I haven't followed this aspect very closely but earlier there was this news about PAF pilots being contracted by the UAE to fly the Dessert Falcons.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...l-linked-to-us-block-on-uae-technology-49515/

 

[Indus Falcon]

and US refused to train any Pakistani pilots on block 60 for UAE

No nothing like that happened. They simply said: "PAF pilots, and you don't get the birds".

 

[Thorough Pro]

different wording, same result

No nothing like that happened. They simply said: "PAF pilots, and you don't get the birds".

 

[Indus Falcon]

Honestly speaking there is no such "Ummah" like thin in Arabs any more. For the peace of land of their governance they are the biggest back stabber (they not going to give you nationality of their "own state"). The USA help make it possible of SAUDI family to transform the HIJAZ as SAUDI ARABAI so the land is named after them. "it is very important to mention that the Muslim was driven by the KILAFAT system back then and HIJAZ was not exception, but again because the KILAFAT was headed by TURKS and this is not good for SAUDI's, however this is not allowed in the existence of KALIFA of time". In turn the USA got the biggest deal of all the oil trade stared in US dollars' (Making evil to devil).

The piece of land called middle east is divided in small states just to accommodate the kingdom hood. to brake the KALIFAT system. Research a bit and you will know their all money and the purposes.

Pakistan come into existence 1947 and in the eyes of many worldly political figures the future of the Pakistan was so bright. but the newly created state had deliberately kept into a state (by both elements of so called Muslim umman and the non-Muslim hand) where state stated dis-functioning . Killing of important persons on the initial stage was a big blow. Department of Islamic reconstruction head directly appointed by Quaid-e-Azam "Muhammad Asad" thrown away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Asad

When the Gawadar and CPEC stated there are some Pakistani officials describing actual attacks, using rockets or missile of small to medium range, for threatening purposes, on the water close to Gawader by the neighboring countries "Not Iran" check the map. Except few nice personalities in the arab region almost everyone is like unfriendly.

But design of Allah as per QURAN is the only superior successful design. Pakistan keep going on and on. our major major problem is the financial mismanagement and corruption. otherwise there is no reason the same Pakistanis are successful in a discipline atmosphere like army and flourish, becoming known to world and developing everything they need in army. and overseas Pakistanis are doing well, but why not in Pakistan? the answer is not implementation of law and order equally for everyone.

It time for Pakistan anyway Insha Allah

Nothing to do with what you have posted. But you are not a Pakistani or of Pakistani Origin.

 

[mrrehan]

Nothing to do with what you have posted. But you are not a Pakistani or of Pakistani Origin.

Why you need to check on me? Why I have to prove my nationality for you?

 

[Indus Falcon]

Why you need to check on me? Why I have to prove my nationality for you?

You don't have to prove anything to me, you are proving it yourself. Sooner or later you will fall out of line.

 

[krash]

No that isn't what he said. He's trying to say that Pakistan stands by GCC all the time but GCC don't stand by Pakistan and are doing business with India. In deed, GCC stands by Pakistan all the time whenever it needs but Pakistan doesn't and publicly refused to join them in Yemen for two reasons 1- It's not pakistan war. 2- It will jeopardize its relation with Iran which isn't doing 48 Billion dollar business with Pakistan as GCC does.

Apparently we are expected to be charitable towards the GCC. Why would we join the Yemen war when you lay in bed with India while it kills innocent Pakistanis on both sides of the LOC? Apparently we are also not immature children who then throw a hissy fit about it, like some of our GCC 'friends'.

So why would GCC rely on Pakistan when it can't give something in return?
Training some soldiers is not a big deal and doesn't give pakistan any leverage because we also have experts from France and cooperate with them in training field too. Do we have to pour billions to French economy for the jobs they are getting money for at the end of every month? Simply no.

You also don't demand that France join your ludicrous war and then when turned away moan and cry shouting hilarious 'warnings' like a five year old.

So why would Pakistan support a moronic GCC war against its own diplomatic interests when the GCC can't even hold pretense of an ally who deserves military aid?

You would argue and say Pakistan is a Muslim country, it's not France, I'd say that's right but the government of Pakistan is selling JF-17 to Myanmar which is killing and murdering Muslims day and night.

And the GCC have their hands in every single militant insurgency in the Islamic world, even in Pakistan, which have butchered hundreds of thousands of Muslims across the globe....... So what was your point?


Another full of himself Arab child.

 

[mrrehan]

You don't have to prove anything to me, you are proving it yourself. Sooner or later you will fall out of line.

Who are you to give me this threats.

 

[MastanKhan]

Apparently we are expected to be charitable towards the GCC. Why would we join the Yemen war when you lay in bed with India while it kills innocent Pakistanis on both sides of the LOC? Apparently we are also not immature children who then throw a hissy fit about it, like some of our GCC 'friends'.





You also don't demand that France join your ludicrous war and then when turned away moan and cry shouting hilarious 'warnings' like a five year old.

So why would Pakistan support a moronic GCC war against its own diplomatic interests when the GCC can't even hold pretense of an ally who deserves military aid?



And the GCC have their hands in every single militant insurgency in the Islamic world, even in Pakistan, which have butchered hundreds of thousands of Muslims across the globe....... So what was your point?


Another full of himself Arab child.

Hi,

A beggar is always looking for alms---and a weak nation is always thinking from a position of weakness.

When you are spearheading a force of 100-150 K troops with the backing of navy---air force---armor---artillery---a full complimentary battle group---you think that your presence that would bring peace and comfort to the minds of the GCC public would not have any effect on their thinking towards you---when for the very first time they were thinking of their very existence being in danger.

Bhookay ki Bhook kabhi nahi jati---buzdil ki buzdily---and the incompetence of an incompetent---pakistanis will always think of themselves from a position of weakness.

It is their genetic inheritence that makes them meek---weak & humble---.

A year and a half ago---the GCC were in a full blooded panic for their lives and their very existence---.

They were literally begging for you for protecting their lives---and you are telling me that you pakistanis are such imbeciles that you could not MANIPULATE the situation in your favor.

Allah gave you the opportunity to be the Leader of men---Leader of the muslim world---and truthfully you chickened out---.