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Nothing of that sort. PAF pilots participation pretty much died down after 2003.
You rely on Indian labour to the tune of $72 billion which is the single biggest earner India makes. Tell me did India go to fight for you in Yeman?
That is a myth that it is tit for tat. Pure business, the Arabs need near slave workers
 
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No that isn't what he said. He's trying to say that Pakistan stands by GCC all the time but GCC don't stand by Pakistan and are doing business with India. In deed, GCC stands by Pakistan all the time whenever it needs but Pakistan doesn't and publicly refused to join them in Yemen for two reasons 1- It's not pakistan war. 2- It will jeopardize its relation with Iran which isn't doing 48 Billion dollar business with Pakistan as GCC does.

Where did you get that 48 billion figure from? 48 billion is CPEC, not Pakistan's earnings from Pak-GCC trade/remittance.
 
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You need to start your true original flags.
Your desi mindset and thoughts are not allowing you hide behind american flags.

Sir, exactly what have I said that has made you go nuts and start conspiracy theories about my flags? If I was to guess, knowing how people like India respond to this one hot issue, it is the H1B visas?

Well, I have news for you, I am a strong Trump supporter as I want stuff to be made here in our homeland. I am not as hard core and "out of it" as he is, because I believe in American diversity and our nation's origins as a nation of immigrants. But it is TIME we stop effing outsourcing our jobs to India, Mexico and other places, as a whole sale Sunday discount shopping store. We have plenty of Indians, Mexicans, Chinese, and all other races here who can fulfill those jobs.

That is why I voted for him, and this is what he has started to look into already. I have friends who've been without work for a long time due to their high paying jobs going "elsewhere". Your country wants to "Make in India" like I've been reading up on various places lately, we want "our jobs back in America" to start "Made in America". And that means Americans working together on these jobs, including many sharp Indian, Pakistani, Mexican, Malaysian, Chinese, and all other races who live here legally and pay taxes. If we need to bring people from elsewhere, there should be cost and tax increases to justify those.

You are continue to write insulting statements but I won't respond and will report you instead. Here is just one of many, many lawsuits. Thanks

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-disney-h1b-visa-lawsuit-20160125-story.html
 
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That is a myth that it is tit for tat. Pure business, the Arabs need near slave workers
Oscar I know it's business but let me tell you about where I live, UK. European Union has been gold dust for Eastern Europe and that's not necessarily because of aid that say Poland got. No, the biggest benefit Poland got in 2004 after they joined EU was their poor could come to UK and get jobs that British did not want or were too lazy to do. Within few years (ask anybody in UK) over 2.5 million Poles landed in UK. They are sending £10s of billions back to Poland that is lifting that country up.

Now think about this. The same British refuse to let Pakistani, Egyptian, Indian come to UK to get those jobs. Indeed every day they catch illegal workers and through them out but all the time they allowed 2.5 million Poles inside UK. I know we have had Brexit but that does not change the fact that they let the Poles in. Now they did this because of policy decision and business. It can't have been business alone because UK could have got 2 Bengladeshi workers for every Pole worker because they are cheaper but instead they chose the Poles. This wa act of positive discrimination. They prefereed the Poles and that is why they were accepted under the EU laws.

Now let me compare the Saudia Arabia and other GCC. Leaving all the rubbish talk of brotherhood let's look at the facts. Did GCC show any preferance for Pakistan or was it just business? You know there are more Indian workers in GCC then Pakistani.

You live in Pakistan I imagine. You will know millions are under employed or unemployed. Those millions could have got jobs in KSA and it would have had propfound effect on those workers, their familes, their communities and Pakistan in one year would earn more extra money then all the mighty Chinese CPEC investment. What is more next year there would be another tranche of increased remittances. Insyead that preferance has been handed to India to the tune of $72 billion.

Fine. It is their choice but why the hell do Pakistan regard these people so highly?

*Some here keep bringing Pakistan's refusal in Yeman as a excuse which is rubbish. I did not see India going to help in Yeman yet they have been enjoying the fruits of over $70 billion every year for decades.
 
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GCC's countries aren't found to do charity.
Why would GCC stupidly rely on Pakistan after it refuses to join them in Yemen?

I'm sure your govts and military establishments do not agree with you @Khafee
 
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Oscar I know it's business but let me tell you about where I live, UK. European Union has been gold dust for Eastern Europe and that's not necessarily because of aid that say Poland got. No, the biggest benefit Poland got in 2004 after they joined EU was their poor could come to UK and get jobs that British did not want or were too lazy to do. Within few years (ask anybody in UK) over 2.5 million Poles landed in UK. They are sending £10s of billions back to Poland that is lifting that country up.

Now think about this. The same British refuse to let Pakistani, Egyptian, Indian come to UK to get those jobs. Indeed every day they catch illegal workers and through them out but all the time they allowed 2.5 million Poles inside UK. I know we have had Brexit but that does not change the fact that they let the Poles in. Now they did this because of policy decision and business. It can't have been business alone because UK could have got 2 Bengladeshi workers for every Pole worker because they are cheaper but instead they chose the Poles. This wa act of positive discrimination. They prefereed the Poles and that is why they were accepted under the EU laws.

Now let me compare the Saudia Arabia and other GCC. Leaving all the rubbish talk of brotherhood let's look at the facts. Did GCC show any preferance for Pakistan or was it just business? You know there are more Indian workers in GCC then Pakistani.

You live in Pakistan I imagine. You will know millions are under employed or unemployed. Those millions could have got jobs in KSA and it would have had propfound effect on those workers, their familes, their communities and Pakistan in one year would earn more extra money then all the mighty Chinese CPEC investment. What is more next year there would be another tranche of increased remittances. Insyead that preferance has been handed to India to the tune of $72 billion.

Fine. It is their choice but why the hell do Pakistan regard these people so highly?

*Some here keep bringing Pakistan's refusal in Yeman as a excuse which is rubbish. I did not see India going to help in Yeman yet they have been enjoying the fruits of over $70 billion every year for decades.


Sir, this is a pretty well written post. Good work :tup:. Some of your content here in the post, refers to the mess that has caused historical issues for your nation, such as pushing this "Islamic brothers" stuff, when the Arabs don't treat you well or really care the way emotional Pakistanis care for the KSA and other Arab countries.

In my opinion, any nation to grow and become modern with higher potential, has to disengage to some degree with this religious mess we've seen in and around Pakistan for a couple of decades. If the US wants to work with someone, it gives them benefits like the NAFTA and strategic partnership with India. But in Pakistan's case, there hasn't been anything significantly provided to uplift the economy, until the Chinese came along. So as Pakistanis, you guys should really form a strategy to form a "Pakistan first" instead of "Muslim bros". That is the only way to go forward. Focus on yourself first and grow first. Thanks
 
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Rubbish. Non of these GCC countries rely on Pakistan. Please stop smoking on the ummah weed. GCC contract out their defence to America. As facts and history prove. GCC purchase only from America/Europe to buy influence in those countries. Pakistani's? They are just 'miskeen' to be hired as private bodyguards or do the dirty work.

Even there the plum jobs are given to Indian's by GCC. GCC/KSA are India's biggest beneficiaries. This is fact. Just google the amount of money that is pouring into India from GCC - so much that it has lifted India which enables it to then spend more on it's military.

How does a cool $72 billion going from GCC to India sound?This is every year - Pakistan got $48 billion one off Chinese investment under CPEC and entire country is in orgy.

Link > http://www.khaleejtimes.com/business/gold-forex/remittances-from-gcc-to-india-hit-72b

Yes, Why GCC countries will consider Pakistan? They are reputable rich countries of the world they have money so every one bow to them, they can buy off the shelf as much as they can. But Kaptan Sahab why the member of GCC are so against CPEC? Perhaps they can see the future a bit more further then we can see.
 
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Ask Joe if Indian's said yes and went to Yemen?

Thanks for confirming this, Joe. India has been the preferred place for workers irrespective of Yeman or not or the religion of the workers.


No, they don't Zarvan. Those you refer to are the crumbs. The real lifting is contracted out to these boys below - with figures running into $100s billions. I know your a patriot and I respect you for that but you got to start looking at this without religion distorting the reality.

When the shit hit's the fan who do they call? America


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Qatar? Don't worry they pay USA to have military bases in Qatar.

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A US B-52 Stratofortress bomber arriving at Al Udeid Air Base, in Qatar

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Qatar, where insulting its flag is a serious offence, hosts the largest American air base outside of the United States.


Al-Udeid base, home to around 10,000 military personnel, is used as a hub by the US for its air strikes against the Islamic State jihadist group in Syria and Iraq.


Link > http://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/us-apologises-to-qatar-over-military-video

What did I say about Pakistan - crumbs? The real deal goes to America. That is why when Saudia Arabia came under threat America came to KSA with 500,000 soldiers. These are the facts.

Hi,

Please answer intelligent---. Thank you.

A year and a half ago--everyone of them were ready to pay pakistan to have its base in their country.
 
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We are hoping for that here in the US also. Mr. Trump has already ensured that he will do a large investigation into H1B visa related complaints. Its time we hired Americans, our Residents here and people who are already here. Continue to keep bringing people when there is a huge talent pool here, makes no sense and at the end, American jobs are taken away. Thanks[/QUOTE/]
Yes, it will affect indiant IT folks if he looks into h1b, but i cant understand arabs' love for indian workforce throughout GCC. I happent to transit through Doha and all security personnel were indian, both menand women, i could read their names and these are sensitive ppsitions. They seemed to be from some indian offshore company providing airport check-in security.
 
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Well he is saying the same thing
1) Why would GCC stupidly rely on Pakistan .. "Non of these GCC countries rely on Pakistan"..
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GCC's countries aren't found to do charity.... "Exactly "There is no free lunch..

He is reciprocating what you say...I don't know how you extract the conclusion that GCC is for Charity.. No they have there own interest even before this yemen fiasco specially economics and trade. .No need to be harsh everybody has its own opinion..Why would GCC do a charity there is no reason to do it and no body is expecting that.

Pakistanis has this feeling that Arabs are useless & cannot fight. Since Pakistanis have been called before to fight in many Arab wars, they think they are invincible fighters & they have taught Arabs how to fight & fly a plane.

The sad thing they fail to understand is Arab countries have money, so they throw the money to these cheepos to fight their war, so they don't lose their people. Kutton ki maut marne ko Pakistani hai, tho hum kyon tension le. Paisa Fenk Tamasha Dekh.

It's like throwing biscuits to D0gs & they come running wagging their tails. That's how the Arabs treat Pakistanis as a matter of fact, which they don't understand. They even claim they have Arab ancestory & no where related to Indians & they hate Indians.

This is what happens when you take free aid from other countries. You have to dance to their tunes. Nahin tho Khode padenge. Tum log Khode pade tho bhi nahin seekthe. Zaid Hamid ko pucho, kitna acche hai Arab ya Saudia.

This is the ironic joke. Jo uske Maa ko izzat nahin karta, uska kya izzat. Kaun usko barosa karega.
 
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