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[al-Hasani]

Hope you are aware that according to Sumerian mythology they migrated from Iran Plateau toward Mesopotamia .so Sumerian believed they had more relation with us than people of Arabian peninsula

It was in the links yo posted about Dilmun civilization ,I thought you read them before posting the links .

That's not correct since there is a consensus that Semites originated on the Arabian Peninsula and geographically speaking Southern Iraq is also just next door to the Arabian Peninsula. Sumerians spoke an language isolate but they were with all due probability related to the Semites that already lived next to them or the ancestors of the Semites - the Neolithic populations of the ME.

If we assume that the Marsh Arabs are somehow related to the Sumerians as many have claimed, since there are certain similarities, then genetic tests have established that 80% of them belong to 1 single Haplogroup. The J1 Haplogroup whose origin is the Arabian Peninsula.

As everybody can see here below:

Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Y-chromosomes of Marsh Arabs

In search of the genetic footprints of Sumeria... [BMC Evol Biol. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI

Abstract

BACKGROUND:
For millennia, the southern part of the Mesopotamia has been a wetland region generated by the Tigris and Euphrates rivers before flowing into the Gulf. This area has been occupied by human communities since ancient times and the present-day inhabitants, the Marsh Arabs, are considered the population with the strongest link to ancient Sumerians. Popular tradition, however, considers the Marsh Arabs as a foreign group, of unknown origin, which arrived in the marshlands when the rearing of water buffalo was introduced to the region.

RESULTS:
To shed some light on the paternal and maternal origin of this population, Y chromosome and mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) variation was surveyed in 143 Marsh Arabs and in a large sample of Iraqi controls. Analyses of the haplogroups and sub-haplogroups observed in the Marsh Arabs revealed a prevalent autochthonous Middle Eastern component for both male and female gene pools, with weak South-West Asian and African contributions, more evident in mtDNA. A higher male than female homogeneity is characteristic of the Marsh Arab gene pool, likely due to a strong male genetic drift determined by socio-cultural factors (patrilocality, polygamy, unequal male and female migration rates).

CONCLUSIONS:
Evidence of genetic stratification ascribable to the Sumerian development was provided by the Y-chromosome data where the J1-Page08 branch reveals a local expansion, almost contemporary with the Sumerian City State period that characterized Southern Mesopotamia. On the other hand, a more ancient background shared with Northern Mesopotamia is revealed by the less represented Y-chromosome lineage J1-M267*. Overall our results indicate that the introduction of water buffalo breeding and rice farming, most likely from the Indian sub-continent, only marginally affected the gene pool of autochthonous people of the region. Furthermore, a prevalent Middle Eastern ancestry of the modern population of the marshes of southern Iraq implies that if the Marsh Arabs are descendants of the ancient Sumerians, also the Sumerians were most likely autochthonous and not of Indian or South Asian ancestry.

Haplogroup J-P209 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which link? It just says that the Sumerians regarded the Dilmun as holy land apparently.

Also you must know that the first people native to the ME and the world outside of Africa lived on the Arabian Peninsula for thousands upon thousands of years. That is why every person outside of Africa ancestors lived on the Arabian Peninsula for thousands of years.

The first people who inhabited Iran had lived on the Arabian Peninsula for thousands of years. Of course this was long, long ago. Just saying.

 

[doritos]

kid , thanks for the fun , but iraq was a part of iran.

Iraq added to Persian dynasties was a military conquest by force led by Cyrus, doesn't make it part of Iran in a historical,identical view.

Arabs have been the majority of the population in Iraq since the Sassanid Empire,[6] which pre-dates the Muslim conquest of Mesopotamia. Iraq was successfully ruled by the Sumerian, Akkadian, Babylonian, Assyrian, Medo-Persian, Seleucid and Parthian empires during the Iron Age and Classical Antiquity, before Iraq wasconquered by the Muslim Rashidun Caliphate in the 7th century, and became a center of the Islamic Golden Age during the medieval Abbasid Caliphate. After a series of invasions and conquest by the Mongols and Turks, Iraq fell under Ottoman rule in the 16th century, intermittently falling under Mamluk and Safavid control.

Before Persian conquest of Iraq.
There is ancient history of this land ( 5000+ years ) that's longer then the first day of the Persian empire till today.
There might be people with the opinion that Iraq is part of Greater Iran,but that is ignoring 5000+ years of history before it was annexed by Cyrus, whether people choose to do that or not is up to them.

But I still have to finish a report so can't argue.

 

[Ayush]

@Ayush @chak de INDIA is this true ?

Republic of india is.
Not Bharat/Hindustan
Our civilisation is atleast 5000 years old

 

[Hack-Hook]

That's not correct since there is a consensus that Semites originated on the Arabian Peninsula and geographically speaking Southern Iraq is also just next door to the Arabian Peninsula. Sumerians spoke an language isolate but they were with all due probability related to the Semites that already lived next to them or the ancestors of the Semites - the Neolithic populations of the ME.

If we assume that the Marsh Arabs are somehow related to the Sumerians as many have claimed, since there are certain similarities, then genetic tests have established that 80% of them belong to 1 single Haplogroup. The J1 Haplogroup whose origin is the Arabian Peninsula.

As everybody can see here below:

Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Y-chromosomes of Marsh Arabs

In search of the genetic footprints of Sumeria... [BMC Evol Biol. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI



Haplogroup J-P209 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which link? It just says that the Sumerians regarded the Dilmun as holy land apparently.

Also you must know that the first people native to the ME and the world outside of Africa lived on the Arabian Peninsula for thousands upon thousands of years. That is why every person outside of Africa ancestors lived on the Arabian Peninsula for thousands of years.

The first people who inhabited Iran had lived on the Arabian Peninsula for thousands of years. Of course this was long, long ago. Just saying.

sorry but I must disagree that Sumerian were Semite
Sumer (ancient region, Iraq) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

Sumer was first settled between 4500 and 4000 bc by a non-Semitic people who did not speak the [URL='https://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/573229/Sumerian-language']Sumerian language

. These people now are called proto-Euphrateans or Ubaidians, for the village Al-Ubaid, where their remains were first discovered. The Ubaidians were the first civilizing force in Sumer, draining the marshes for agriculture, developing trade, and establishing industries, including weaving, leatherwork, metalwork, masonry, and pottery. After the Ubaidian immigration to Mesopotamia, various Semitic peoples infiltrated their territory, adding their cultures to the Ubaidian culture, and creating a high pre-Sumerian civilization.

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and about the Sumerian origin

The pole shift and the freezing of the old homelands, as told in Sumerian, Finn-Ugor and Iranic myths

These are the precursors to the events which eventually lead to the great floods, that affected the whole planet.

The Sumerians left behind legends about the gods and their early settlement as told in the "Barton Tablets". These according to Christian O'brian "The Genius of the Few", tell of a land "of the gods" which at one time became frozen and cold, and eventually forced them south. I consider these myths about the Sumerian "gods" to be ancient recollections of very early events remembered for millenniums, that actually happened to the ancestors of the Sumerians, about their old homelands in the frozen land areas like Siberia. They called this place "Karsag". I believe that this freezing was caused by the shift in the North Pole 13,000 years ago, which plunged Central Siberia from a temperate climate to a polar climate, where the ground a few feet from the surface never thaws out. Scientists have found frozen mammoths in Siberia, whose stomachs were still filled with plants that are known to live only in temperate climates, and not in the arctic regions.

Some groups trapped in this new harsh climate after the pole shift were so decimated by the freezing Siberian weather that they probably reverted to a primitive subsistence, which they could never hope to recover from in their new harsh surroundings. The lucky ones further away were able to move and look for new lands in more favorable climate, such as the great southern lakes like the Black Sea, Caspean Sea, Lake Baikal areas.

Similar stories are also told by the Californian Indians of the Penuitan language group, who are believed by some linguists to be descendant of the Ob-Ugrians of North Western Siberia, who are a branch of the FinnoUgrian language group. The ancestors of these Penuitan Indians crossed the Berring Straights and traveled here from the north. These Indians also believe that their gods come from and live in the polar regions. Their language has many common words with Ugrian and FinnUgor languages to which Finnish, Hungarian, Estonian, Lappish, Samoyedic, and several other minority languages of Russia belong. The language group is scattered from the Pacific to central and northern Europe.

Historic linguists also claim that the ancestors of the early Iranians also lived in close proximity to the Ugrians (Hungarians, Vogul and Ostjak languages), based on some common early words. According to ancient Hungarian legends there was an intermarriage with the Iranic Alan people. It is no surprise then that Iranian myths also talk of the freezing north in ancient times. This is an excerp from the Avesta of the ancient Persians: "...At that time Airyana Vaejo had a pleasant climate, with 7 months of summer and only 5 months of winter. The forests were rich with game and the fields with grains. In the valleys many brooks flowed. This land however turned into a cursed land, where for 10 months it was winter and only 2 months was it summer, following the attacks of Ahra-Majnyu (the evil-devil)." This land could not have been Europe, since prior to the pole shift most of Europe was under ice or very cold, and only afterwards did it warm up.

 

[e3nad3alek]

Qatar will eventually get annexed by KSA