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LONDON — Negotiations between the U.K. and Qatar for the purchase of Typhoon fighters and Hawk jet trainers by the Gulf state are complete, and the two sides are now looking for a suitable date to sign the deal, according to a senior BAE Systems official.

“I would not like to speculate on the exact date it will be signed. ... We have concluded all of our discussions, we have no more negotiations to do with the Qataris, the contract is done. It’s purely down to when there is the right window to have it signed,” Chris Boardman, the managing director of BAE Systems’ military air and information business, told the British Parliament’s Defence Select Committee on Tuesday.

Boardman urged the British government to provide clarity on its vision for combat air requirements in a post-Typhoon era.

On Sept. 17 in the Qatari capital of Doha, then-British Defence Secretary Michael Fallon announced he had signed a statement of intent on the proposed purchase with his counterpart, Khalid Bin Mohammed Al-Attiyah.

In what must be some kind of record, the two sides have gone from signing a statement of intent to concluding negotiations in little more than six weeks for the supply of 24 Eurofighter Typhoons and six BAE Hawks to the Gulf state.


Qatar has added a third fighter jet type to the expansion plans for its small air force with the announcement Sept 17 that it is negotiating with the British to purchase 24 Eurofighter Typhoon jets.

A spokesman for BAE said inking of the deal could take place by mid-December, although there is currently no commitment to a date.

Assuming the deal is signed, it will be the first Typhoon sale by the British since the Ministry of Defence took over responsibility for leading the government’s Typhoon export sales effort from the Defence and Security Organisation, the department responsible for most overseas sales in the sector.

The value of the Qatari deal is unknown, but it will run into the billions of pounds for the British aerospace industry as well as Airbus and Leonardo, their European partners in the Eurofighter program.

Boardman hinted at a prolonged delivery schedule for the Qatari Typhoons, telling the parliamentary committee the deal will stretch assembly of the fast jet at BAE’s Warton site in northwest England to 2024. The current order book delivering jets to the Britusg Royal Air Force, Oman and Kuwait is set to end in 2022, he said.

With a dearth of Hawk orders, Boardman said BAE had already started low-level manufacturing work at their own risk on the Gulf state’s jet trainer purchase.

The Qataris already have a done deal from earlier this year with the U.S. for the purchase of 36 Boeing F-15QA jets for $12 billion. In 2015, the Gulf nation purchased 24 Dassault Rafale fighters for about $7.6 billion.

The 84-strong fleet of fighter jets will eventually replace a current Qatar Emiri Air Force fast-jet capability of just 12 Mirage 2000s.

The air power buildup is part of a major military expansion effort across air, land and sea by Qatar.

The deal comes as Qatar is still in the midst of an economic and diplomatic boycott by Saudi Arabia and its regional allies who accuse Doha of funding terrorism groups and cosying up to Iran.

https://www.defensenews.com/air/201...rms-for-buying-typhoon-hawk-aircraft-from-uk/
 
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Really want it to be the Advanced Hawk.
I suppose there's no data other than "BAE had already started working on them"?
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LOL Razgriz!

From a 6 AlphaJets and 9 Mirage 2000s for fighter force now
to 6 AdvancedHawks, 36 F15-E, 24 Typhoons & 24 Rafales.

From 9 to 84, that's over a factor 9 increase ...
It's the QEAF's Birthday everyday these days!

Let's note that the above format is more than needed to
handle Iran so that one can picture that future threats are
found in the most recent Qatari strategic review.


We'll see, hum? Good day all, Tay.
 
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LOL Razgriz!

From a 6 AlphaJets and 9 Mirage 2000s for fighter force now
to 6 AdvancedHawks, 36 F15-E, 24 Typhoons & 24 Rafales.

From 9 to 84, that's over a factor 9 increase ...
It's the QEAF's Birthday everyday these days!

Let's note that the above format is more than needed to
handle Iran so that one can picture that future threats are
found in the most recent Qatari strategic review.


We'll see, hum? Good day all, Tay.

It's pretty obvious what's going on. Buying the Rafale and then the Typhoon obviously doesn't make any sense.
 
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Are you hinting that the provenance of the equipment
may weigh more than its actual usefulness?

Tactical being superseded by strategic?
My, my, what a cunning fellow! :whistle:

All the best to you and yours my friend, Tay.
 
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Are you hinting that the provenance of the equipment
may weigh more than its actual usefulness?

Tactical being superseded by strategic?
My, my, what a cunning fellow! :whistle:

Hahaha, that was very slick usage of the English language there, my friend. :-)

Who buys the Rafale with the incredible RB-2e AESA radar & SPECTRA and all the weapons it has at its disposal including the Meteor and future MICA NG and then go out and buy the Typhoon, another delta/canard platform from a different builder of which the current Tranch 3 model does not have an AESA radar and also lacks in other EW and self protection systems that the Rafale has. Even if it is the Tranch 4 with the supposed new AESA radar, why then two different models of the same type built by 2 different manufacturers?

The Hawk makes a lot of sense and of course the F-15QA, but Typhoon?
 
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HOW about buying 24 su-35..............:enjoy:
 
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Hahaha, that was very slick usage of the English language there, my friend. :-)

Who buys the Rafale with the incredible RB-2e AESA radar & SPECTRA and all the weapons it has at its disposal including the Meteor and future MICA NG and then go out and buy the Typhoon, another delta/canard platform from a different builder of which the current Tranch 3 model does not have an AESA radar and also lacks in other EW and self protection systems that the Rafale has. Even if it is the Tranch 4 with the supposed new AESA radar, why then two different models of the same type built by 2 different manufacturers?

The Hawk makes a lot of sense and of course the F-15QA, but Typhoon?
Both fighter could be seen as being the same... they they do have difference in some aspect... not a lot that's I will agree...
So IMO... Qatar is in hurry to get an interesting number of "similar" jets... Rafale supply line is slow... but now with Typhoon the worries are answered

And ofc... the political package being this deal is also...included.
 
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LONDON — Negotiations between the U.K. and Qatar for the purchase of Typhoon fighters and Hawk jet trainers by the Gulf state are complete, and the two sides are now looking for a suitable date to sign the deal, according to a senior BAE Systems official.

“I would not like to speculate on the exact date it will be signed. ... We have concluded all of our discussions, we have no more negotiations to do with the Qataris, the contract is done. It’s purely down to when there is the right window to have it signed,” Chris Boardman, the managing director of BAE Systems’ military air and information business, told the British Parliament’s Defence Select Committee on Tuesday.

Boardman urged the British government to provide clarity on its vision for combat air requirements in a post-Typhoon era.

On Sept. 17 in the Qatari capital of Doha, then-British Defence Secretary Michael Fallon announced he had signed a statement of intent on the proposed purchase with his counterpart, Khalid Bin Mohammed Al-Attiyah.

In what must be some kind of record, the two sides have gone from signing a statement of intent to concluding negotiations in little more than six weeks for the supply of 24 Eurofighter Typhoons and six BAE Hawks to the Gulf state.


Qatar has added a third fighter jet type to the expansion plans for its small air force with the announcement Sept 17 that it is negotiating with the British to purchase 24 Eurofighter Typhoon jets.

A spokesman for BAE said inking of the deal could take place by mid-December, although there is currently no commitment to a date.

Assuming the deal is signed, it will be the first Typhoon sale by the British since the Ministry of Defence took over responsibility for leading the government’s Typhoon export sales effort from the Defence and Security Organisation, the department responsible for most overseas sales in the sector.

The value of the Qatari deal is unknown, but it will run into the billions of pounds for the British aerospace industry as well as Airbus and Leonardo, their European partners in the Eurofighter program.

Boardman hinted at a prolonged delivery schedule for the Qatari Typhoons, telling the parliamentary committee the deal will stretch assembly of the fast jet at BAE’s Warton site in northwest England to 2024. The current order book delivering jets to the Britusg Royal Air Force, Oman and Kuwait is set to end in 2022, he said.

With a dearth of Hawk orders, Boardman said BAE had already started low-level manufacturing work at their own risk on the Gulf state’s jet trainer purchase.

The Qataris already have a done deal from earlier this year with the U.S. for the purchase of 36 Boeing F-15QA jets for $12 billion. In 2015, the Gulf nation purchased 24 Dassault Rafale fighters for about $7.6 billion.

The 84-strong fleet of fighter jets will eventually replace a current Qatar Emiri Air Force fast-jet capability of just 12 Mirage 2000s.

The air power buildup is part of a major military expansion effort across air, land and sea by Qatar.

The deal comes as Qatar is still in the midst of an economic and diplomatic boycott by Saudi Arabia and its regional allies who accuse Doha of funding terrorism groups and cosying up to Iran.

https://www.defensenews.com/air/201...rms-for-buying-typhoon-hawk-aircraft-from-uk/
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Buying 3 different 4th Gen jets with more or less same capabilities doesn't make military or economic Sense they should have gone for one of em in bigger number and demand tot setup of there servicing base inside country
It's like qatar is pleasing West so that it is evicted from Terrorism supporting charges
Would have been better Qatar joined Turkish tfx program
 
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Rafale supply line is slow

That might be the only reason I see that would make some sense, but it's a political purchase as we all know.

The Rafale is much better than the Typhoon, and when the F4 comes out it will also exceed the Typhoon tranch 4. Dssault's assembley line is not slow, it's just that they have too many orders for a single manufacturer which is probably why they're only committing to the 36 number per order. The Indians want the additional 36 but it might be a while before they sign the contract with Dassault for those or even start receiving them. Meanwhile, Typhoon is sitting idle. So I can buy the theory that Typhoon can produce them in a shorter time because of that reason, but that usually doesn't dictate purchases of such high-tech aircraft.
 
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That might be the only reason I see that would make some sense, but it's a political purchase as we all know.

The Rafale is much better than the Typhoon, and when the F4 comes out it will also exceed the Typhoon tranch 4. Dssault's assembley line is not slow, it's just that they have too many orders for a single manufacturer which is probably why they're only committing to the 36 number per order. The Indians want the additional 36 but it might be a while before they sign the contract with Dassault for those. So I can buy that Typhoon can produce them in a shorter time because of that reason, but that usually doesn't dictate purchases of such high-tech aircraft.
When you are cornered or in a hurry... Logic... is a luxury.
 
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