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This after the IRGC itself bought AK-103 rifles while we had a national rifle program with multiple contestants.
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This after the IRGC itself bought AK-103 rifles while we had a national rifle program with multiple contestants.
This after the IRGC itself bought AK-103 rifles while we had a national rifle program with multiple contestants.
Not sure.But we produce them under license don't we?
This after the IRGC itself bought AK-103 rifles while we had a national rifle program with multiple contestants.
100 Su30's as appose to 1000 F-313's means what? means 300 landing gears as appose to 3000
it means 400 engines as appose to 4000 and that's for an engine with over 4 times the life span of a Turbojet engine!
It means 100 airframe who will easily last Iran for over 2 decades as appose to 1000 Airframes that won't even last a decade
It means requiring fuel tanks, fuel reserves,..... for 100 aircrafts as appose to 1000!
It means 100 Su-30 pilots having to practicing on live ordinance as appose to 1000 and unless your just practicing with dumb bombs with dummy warheads that is in it's self a major cost!
etc etc
And a jet Aircraft is a Jet aircraft whether they are subsonic transport aircraft or fighter jets they require a lot of fuel and engine maintenance after each flight on the ground with various ground equipment and facilities required to support them!
And lets see what's more logical producing 1000 UAV's that can do the same mission the F-313 can who can be stored and pilot training for the vast portion of the fleet can be simulated on the ground during peace time as appose to 1000's of F-313 pilots that would require years of actual flight hours & training on various aircraft including on the F-313
Just the Fuel cost of the F-313 would bankrupt Iran's military let alone anything else the fuel cost alone with standard engine maintenance will be upwards of half a billion USD a year let alone anything else "Ghatreh Ghatreh jam gardad vangahi darya shaved"
Do you know how irresponsible it is of a government not to acquired Air Superiority fighters in 4 decades!!!!!
And to complain about the purchasing of only 80-100 Air Superiority fighters for defensive purposes after 4 decades is boarding on treason!
It's absolute treason! Bunch of crooks that see Iran buying 100 Fighters after 4 decades as money going out of their personal pockets!
An I don't blame the Rahbar I just think he has been surrounded by crooks and is being misinformed!
And yes I agree that Iran should not buy anything it can produce it's self like Tanks, APC, Light and mid size helo's,...... But Air Superiority fighters is something we can't currently produce and we also need a major infuse of modern tech in our Air Force to increase our own tech!
The maintenance effort is the driving cost parameter. My F-313 has 1/10, or 10% of your Su-30. My J-90 engines operate at lower powerlevels and have a equivalent or higher TBO compared to your Al-31.
Here a analogy: I have a Toyota sedan while you drive a Ferrari. Lifecylce costs are magnitudes different.
My composite subsonic airframe has a higher lifetime than your Su-30 and can be zero-houred if necessary because we are the OEM.
My Al-222 class J-90 consume 20-30% of your Al-31, a consumption of 1/4 to 1/3. Plus they never go supersonic in training or wartime.
This is a highly automated next-gen aircraft, training requirements are magnitudes lower.
As said I have just 10% maintenance hours/spareparts effort than you.
Fair enough. A combat drone is a progressive novel solution that I support. What I see are technological hurdles. At this point in time I prefer to have a human brain in that combat zone that can also direct nearby combat drones. But I certainly effort a extensive AI project to enable unmanned solutions.
My airframe cost is 1/5th of yours
My maintenance effort/sparepare cost is 1/10th of yours
My fuel costs are 1/4th of yours
My peacetime training flight hours are 1/3 of yours
Only come costs like pilot salary are higher for me but the increased flexibility and coverage/interception sortie rate I have are worth it.
It's the opposite. It was genius and brave by our military decision makers to skip the fighter aircraft race and invest everything on missiles. Our missile capability of today is just due to this decision not to buy massive amounts of aircraft from foreigners (export variants).
Lets see what we can extract from the black project rated RQ-170 instead for basing our technology on a design from the 70's (export rated).
Brother, I see no content in your post. You just used Trump like phrases and dismissed my numbers.
"SO WRONG!"
"negligent boarding on treachery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"are boarding on delusional!"
I can say 10 times that J85 will not be used in my F-313 and there is the option of airborne data-link relay, not just ground based, but its like talking to a stone.
what I witness from attack on Syria ....
look like the stealth cruise missile are real deal ... if SCM(stealth cruise missile) are fired at high number , even most advance Air Defence System will have problem to detect them and without detecting them in safe distance , they can't respond them in time ....
so if we are developing F313 for Anti Ship mission , then we should develop stealth cruise missile as well ... the combination of these two can become
The ability for F313 to be able to carry two cruise missile is soo important, otherwise this platform is useless really.
two stealth cruise missile ...
there are 3 primary way to break through navy air defence and close air defence system :
1- over power it by firing too many missile
2- speed of your missile should be very fast
3- your missile should be stealth ....
F313 is small platform , so it can't carry more than 1-2 cruise missile and the cruise missile should be small enough to carried in internal weapon bay ... so option 1 and 2 are gone , so the only remaining option is option 3 ...
IMO making stealth subsonic cruise missile is very easy for Iran ....
So why we shouldn't have it !?stealth cruise missile is more a marketing term by the arms industry. A cruise missile is already hard to detect because it flies low and is small in size.
Stealth cruise missiles just attempt to reduce the RCS of the cruise missile even further by design.
It’s nothing out of Iran’s capabilities.