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Breaking News: PAT workers trying to enter PM Secretariat, Police and PAT clash !!!
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Sure qadri is liar , punjab, s noora govt didn't massacred any one in model town?Ahmad Noorani @Ahmad_Noorani
TuQ argument to rollback democracy because his"sons"&"daughters" were martyred on June17 is baseless. He was announcing same before June 17.
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Qadri is a liar. He is deluding people with his demagoguery.
Shabash! Juraat-o-bhadri = qadri qadri!Breaking News: PAT workers trying to enter PM Secretariat, Police and PAT clash !!!
bro how can u compare both . be fair .. musharraf didnt provoke them.. they kidnapped policemen and chinese citizen, took them 7 days then operation .. in model town they went at night and in morning 18 people died and 90 shot.. neither did army use gullobutts and try to show that they were doing violence ...and civil disobedience is not anti state? Police is not stopping people in RED ZONE NOW.
did you see what they did? they are blocking our nation capital choking our economy making us a laughing stock of south asia.
Musharraf did Lal Masjid PML N did Model town. either condemn both or agree to both.
this is NOT MULLAH NATION. NO MULLAH OF ANY TIME
I am sorry, but I will not support a needless tangent. No matter what you say, this present situation is not tolerable in any case. There can be no excuse. In the end-analysis, it is the people who have to take ownership of governance by electing better people (1). The important thing is commitment to constitution and its process (2), not hankering after what is to come in ten years.
We put up with Zardari because the alternative was Army rule. That was a sacrifice on our part. (3) It better mean something today. Otherwise only way for civilians to govern would be through a never-ending series of NROs made with PA.
What about the foreign nationals in the National Assembly, Parliament and the provincial assemblies and all those who stood in elections.
Democracy in Pakistan is weak and fragile, the last time we went through this, we had a tug of war between NS and BB, followed by a coup, military rule, before that, again we had elected reps, removed by a coup, and again same story before that.
The last 6 years have been the worst period in our history, we've been tested on all fronts, our people die daily due to an internal war, sectarianism and tore up communities and taken lives, our economy has been in the shitters, political instability is at an all time high, the security situation is a joke, we have India to the East, BLA types and TTP to the the west, then in every corner of Pakistan there's some local radicals and among them are militants. We have people who don't know anything about democracy, and who were bought into this new era for Pakistan solely on the call that democracy is the way forward, and since there has been nothing but suffering. The common man is fed up.
That is why when the last time force was used against these people in Model Town, many were killed, and an entire fiasco raged on and has been going on even today. It was a sad incident, but TuQ and others made a total meal out of it.
My point being, we are already at a point where a single bullet if fired in Islamabad right now, could change Pakistan's future in a massive way. But the army and the government have laid down the law, they've drawn the line and I don't think either TuQ or IK are daring and foolhardy enough to try and test that. But if they do, there will be bloodshed, and the constitution and laws won't matter to the guy on the streets when all hell breaks loose. Further escalation is firmly, in no-one's interests.
Ideally, I'd like to see TuQ go home, IK if he needs press on ECP reform and audit/recount in specific areas, NS should stay quiet as he has done well so far and so should the army. De-escalation is the way forward now.
BTW Pakistan could learn from India about how to handle democracy.
they must have Pakistan citizenship too
this guy is pure canadian
1) And who will make sure that the public is given education by time and to allow them to vote "freely" without any pressure or blind allegiance to any specif party?
A plate of biryani during election rally is enough to secure a vote, because the poor he will never care for the nation he will care for this stomach and the stomach of his family and the people standing in elections make sure that the voter remains like that all his life so as to not lose a voter.
Then there are some voters if you ask them why you vote for ABC party candidate the silly replies are like for example:
Becuase so and so candidate of his party helped me get my son out was in jail , so i will vote for him all my life no matter what.
So and so candidate paid for the treatment for my so and so family member so i will vote for him all my life no matter what.
My elders used to vote for him so why should i not vote for him.
2) And what about commitment to the constitution by the politicians in implementing the constitution at grass root level for each hand every citizen?
(3) I don't care what form of government we have, be it civilian, dictatorship, monarchy, military rule, one party rule, bipartisan or what ever. Important thing is how much is the citizen cared after and gets all his basic rights as per the constitution and his standard of living is raised and the nation develops in all sectors. And the resources of the nation and the human capital is used to the maximum and for the best.
Listen,
I did not ban you. The last mod actions taken by me have been deleting posts of no value and cautioning people on a Bangladesh thread.
You are needlessly accusing me because you fail to understand that some threads have been locked and merged by someone else other than me.
I could not be a mod if I could not participate in a civilized and proper discourse. I have a history and feel free to point out when and where I have taken such issues at a level that would occasion approbation and criticism.
I expect an apology from you for making unwarranted accusations.
I was replying to one of your post and when i hit the reply button i got this message of not allowed to do so. So naturally the first thing which came to my mind was that you banned me because its one hell of a coincidence that when a heated debate started between us, i suddenly got this message which is why it was only natural for me to quote you but you got personal and i replied in similar manner.
So no i dont owe you anything. If you had remained civilized i would have reciprocated in the same fashion.
By the way you did ban Batmannow from another one of your threads.
I have been on this forum long enough, to know the quality of this forum and the level of moderation which was done at the time. This is the first time in all these years i have ever come in a confrontation with a Mod. So spare me this holier than though attitude of yours.
Just waiting on PTI to somehow tie this directly to NS.Now, Bilal butt( Billu butt) attacked on shah mehmood qureshi home in Multan
Shame on PMLN
He is president of PMLN in MultanJust waiting on PTI to somehow tie this directly to NS.