Qadiyanies Tortured Their leader's Grandson for Reverting Back to Islam

[waraich66]

@Fundamentalist
mindlessly delightful.

and for those labeling them as traitors need to get some reality check..

* Dr.Abdus Salam - Awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1979.
*Lt.Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik - 1965 war hero
*Maj.Gen Iftikhar Janjua - 1965 war hero, killed in 1971 war
*Lt.Gen Abdul Ali Malik - War hero of Chawinda, 1965 war.....and lists goes on.

stop wearing religion on your sleeves. it wont help you here or in afterlife.

Ahmadi,Qadiyanis and Lahori groups were declared non muslim by elected assembly during ZA Bhutto era so no need to discuss this issue again.

As far as war heros were concerned many non muslims also sacrificed their lives for Pakistan.GOP should give them due respect.

I hope matter is clarified , if you have any objection for declaration Ahmadi, Qadiyani and Lahori groups non muslim , you have right to submit application for review to the supreme or high courts of Pakistan.

 

[waraich66]

In that same Quran The Almighty says it very clearly ''Rabul Almeen''

Every Bodies God am i wrong so far but when people decide to become God AND judge each other because of their beliefs you left qurans lesson behind Longs time ago.

You dont understand the point of discussion , please read my post again and please quote if you think i have written any thing wrong.

 

[Bas_tum_Pak]

@Fundamentalist
mindlessly delightful.

and for those labeling them as traitors need to get some reality check..

* Dr.Abdus Salam - Awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1979.
*Lt.Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik - 1965 war hero
*Maj.Gen Iftikhar Janjua - 1965 war hero, killed in 1971 war
*Lt.Gen Abdul Ali Malik - War hero of Chawinda, 1965 war.....and lists goes on.

stop wearing religion on your sleeves. it wont help you here or in afterlife.

So What ? Qadiyani religion is worse then any other because they are Reverted from ISLAM, so there are ............

 

[apophenia]

Ahmadi,Qadiyanis and Lahori groups were declared non muslim by elected assembly during ZA Bhutto era so no need to discuss this issue again.

that's history and Bhutto supported the bill to get the blessing of pro conservative right wingers but this topic is not relevant at this point of time.

As far as war heros were concerned many non muslims also sacrificed their lives for Pakistan.GOP should give them due respect.

not only GOP but we as a nation should give them their due respect. For me a believer is a believer and i hope HE sees it that way or i did be really disappoint if i am wrong.

@Bas_tum_Pak

so by your logic javed iqbal mughal will be hold on higher regards on the day of judgment then any one of the names i listed just because the latter are qadiyani's. Stop using religion to cover your obscene lack of intelligence.

 

[waraich66]

that's history and Bhutto supported the bill to get the blessing of pro conservative right wingers but this topic is not relevant at this point of time.

Serious comedy

You are defending them and putting non sense remarks for others , they are murtid and non muslim nothing more or less.

Traitor word can not be used for them.

 

[Bas_tum_Pak]

so by your logic javed iqbal mughal will be hold on higher regards on the day of judgment then any one of the names i listed just because the latter are qadiyani's. Stop using religion to cover your obscene lack of intelligence.

Don't take my Logic wrongly , our believe is If any body have false religion has no rewards in day of judgement, There are thousands of men Doing Great Jobs having False religion Has nothing.

I am not Covering any thing , Just try to read and learn Islam then Come & Discuss, This forum belongs to Islamic Republic Of Pakistan Don't Paste here falsehood Things Please , specially regarding Most Critical thing 'religion'
Thanks

 

[Cheetah786]

Serious comedy

You are defending them and putting non sense remarks for others , they are murtid and non muslim nothing more or less.

Traitor word can not be used for them.

No one is defending some one or attacking any one.

Let me ask you a question brother what if any other sect were in majority compare to you and they forced there opinion on to you would you stop calling your self Muslim would you stop practicing your religion.

 

[Cheetah786]

Don't take my Logic wrongly , our believe is If any body have false religion has no rewards in day of judgement, There are thousands of men Doing Great Jobs having False religion Has nothing.

I am not Covering any thing , Just try to read and learn Islam then Come & Discuss, This forum belongs to Islamic Republic Of Pakistan Don't Paste here falsehood Things Please , specially regarding Most Critical thing 'religion'
Thanks

Wrong pal this is a defence forum not Islamic second every body is welcome here so please if he is trying to discuss some thing with you instead of telling him where to go why dont you try making your point to him in simplistic way.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Sir...there are few problems especially in Qadiyani case...

General public have some concerns as Qayiyanis refute with the Last Prophet...
Anyways even this issue can be solved...

The most important thing is the mullah team in KSA, Pakistan, Iran etc..

Mullah team and there supporters ignite the flame of hatred between sects whereas general public is not interested...

Why do we even talk about this issue when He the GOD is the decision maker...

Does it matter if mullah team or Qaiyani team blame each other...
GOD will decide...let Him decide...we don't have any say...

I hate when Qadyanis say that Prophet Muhamad (Pece is upon Him) is not the Last prophet…and I hate when Mullah team gave fatwa against them..

Mullahs are not qualified…. there are other people who can give Fatwa…..

 

[Bas_tum_Pak]

Wrong pal this is a defence forum not Islamic second every body is welcome here so please if he is trying to discuss some thing with you instead of telling him where to go why dont you try making your point to him in simplistic way.

Firstly, You are Wrong Sir , I wrote 'this forum belong to Islamic republic of Pakistan ' So where i did wrong? is It not Pakistani forum ? It belong to any other country? or i mentioned full name of Pakistan so you are confused?

Secondly, I told him facts , That at day of judgement First there will be religion then Noble Deeds .. am i wrong?

Regards,

 

[apophenia]

Serious comedy

You are defending them and putting non sense remarks for others , they are murtid and non muslim nothing more or less.

Traitor word can not be used for them.

I am defending tolerance which is taught in Islam. They are human first and everything else comes latter. stop patronizing someone because of their belief system. and extreme mental retardation does not pick and choose on the basis of your believe.

Don't take my Logic wrongly , our believe is If any body have false religion has no rewards in day of judgement, There are thousands of men Doing Great Jobs having False religion Has nothing.

I am not Covering any thing , Just try to read and learn Islam then Come & Discuss, This forum belongs to Islamic Republic Of Pakistan Don't Paste here falsehood Things Please , specially regarding Most Critical thing 'religion'
Thanks

Can you help me in pointing towards the direction where I, “Pasted falsehood Things". I am advocating common sense. As for knowledge about Islam i can challenge you for a dual.

 

[Bas_tum_Pak]

you help me in pointing towards the direction where I, “Pasted falsehood Things". I am advocating common sense. As for knowledge about Islam i can challenge you for a dual.

This is not Place to Dual , religion is most Sensitive part , I admit i am nothing.

If you agree with below points then your things are not falsehood based and I am sorry for that . other wise Need more discussion.

- I just said 'any body's Noble deeds are fruitless in the day of Judgement if His religion is False'

- Qadiyani (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) claimed that he was the Mujaddid (divine reformer) of the 14th Islamic century.
So they are reverted from Islam, They Included false things in Islam, They are Worse then Any religion. because all other religions are have Base (what ever it have) but Qadiyani have nothing.

 

[waraich66]

I am defending tolerance which is taught in Islam. They are human first and everything else comes latter. stop patronizing someone because of their belief system. and extreme mental retardation does not pick and choose on the basis of your believe.

Qadyinanis,lahori,ahmadi groups already declared non muslim ,no doubt Islam teaches us tolrence for non muslim .

In islamic state murtud punishment is death nothing more or less.

 

[waraich66]

No one is defending some one or attacking any one.

Let me ask you a question brother what if any other sect were in majority compare to you and they forced there opinion on to you would you stop calling your self Muslim would you stop practicing your religion.

We are not discussing majority or minority rights here.

In Islamic state there is no other option for murtid either he should quit the state or be punished as per Islamic law.

 

[apophenia]

@ Bas_tum_Pak
I don’t agree with your first statement. And I also don’t agree you second statement about baseless religion and not only sounds stupid but also holds no value for discussions.

@ Fundamentalist
There is a disparity among Muslim scholars when it comes to apostasy and how it should be treat. I prefer to leave them in what they are doing and let HIM decided.