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Putin orders Russian military to Donbass Republics as peacekeepers

Officially Russian aggression begins in Ukraine. After annexing cremia, now this two region will eventually became part of Russia. West as they failed in cremia fail again against Russia. This event tells the necisity of strong military power if you live beside a powerful country to safeguard your interest. No one can help unless you have power to defend.
 
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When the Mongols genocided the Chinese, the Mongols lost any conquest privileges over the Chinese. The Chinese fighting against the Mongols were good. And the Mongol barbarians were evil.

Same with this genocidal Russian Empire/USSR/Russian Federation. Each state genocided Caucasian minorities. Lost any and each authority to govern minorities, especially those genocided. Unless should we start supporting the Yuan Dynasty again.?.

Barbarian genociders and cia endless warnomgers have zero privileges in ruling a boy scout squad, let alone any country.

Break up the Russian Federation.

China has to worry about the putin Qanon movement to unite Washington and Moscow against Beijing.
Russia now is no more soviet union or old imperialism Russia. China has no problem defend what belongs to them.
 
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An excellent decision by Russia.

Declare Donbass independent states. Then their leaders will request Russian help to protect against Ukrainian military aggression.

As I said before, Ukraine will lose territory if they play games with Russia and that’s exactly what has happened. They have lost Crimea and now lost the Donbass since the 2014 coup.

West would have sanctioned Russia regardless and Putin made the correct decision.

NATO won’t do shit against Russia.

Well done Putin.

But maybe this was NATOs plan all along. Keep Russia bogged down in its own neighborhood.
 
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Thanks to Russia for giving NATO a reason to exist. Good job. :enjoy:
 
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By promising to fulfill the signed Minsk II agreement will be the only way forward for Ukraine.

By bombarding Dombass, Donetsk and Lugansk, the Ukrainian has breached the agreement and will only served to justify Russia entry into these breakaway Republics.

Now that Russia has officially recognised these breakaway Republics, the issue has exacerbated.
Earlier on and originally these breakaway Republics only wanted more autonomy from Ukraine.

The US has wanted to use Ukraine to stop Nordstream II as it will leads to a more independent EU in energy.

It is both illogical and preposterous for US investigator to suggest that Nordstream II will results in EU dependence on Russia.
Nobody is forcing any of these nation to buy from Russia. They can always source their gas from elsewhere including the US.
 
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New world order: China and Turkey want to mediate Ukraine crisis

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Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi looks on during the bilateral meeting with Sri Lanka's Prime Minister Mahinda Rajapaksa in Colombo, Sri Lanka, January 9, 2022.
(photo credit: DINUKA LIYANAWATTE/REUTERS)

This symbolizes a shift in world power away from US hegemony to a world that is multipolar and where a rising China may soon mediate conflicts in Europe.​


China, Turkey and France are trying to play a role mediating the Ukraine crisis.

While France’s role is not unique historically, it has partnered with Russia since the 19th century and generally views US policy with skepticism. But the rising role of Turkey and China as potential mediators is historic.

This symbolizes a shift in world power away from US hegemony and the “new world order” promised by US president George H.W. Bush to a world that is multipolar and where a rising China may soon mediate conflicts in Europe.

What we know so far is that Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi on Saturday highlighted the urgent need for a diplomatic solution to the Ukraine crisis, according to Anadolu Agency, a Turkish state-run news agency.

“We hope that a solution can be found through dialogue and consultation that will really guarantee security and stability in Europe,” he said in his video speech to the Munich Security Conference, Anadolu reported. “China’s chief diplomat added the Minsk agreement could be the basis for resolving the crisis diplomatically.”



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New world order: China and Turkey want to mediate Ukraine crisis
By SETH J. FRANTZMAN Published: FEBRUARY 20, 2022 16:34
Updated: FEBRUARY 20, 2022 18:05
Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi looks on during the bilateral meeting with Sri Lanka's Prime Minister Mahinda Rajapaksa in Colombo, Sri Lanka, January 9, 2022. (photo credit: DINUKA LIYANAWATTE/REUTERS)
Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi looks on during the bilateral meeting with Sri Lanka's Prime Minister Mahinda Rajapaksa in Colombo, Sri Lanka, January 9, 2022.
(photo credit: DINUKA LIYANAWATTE/REUTERS)
This symbolizes a shift in world power away from US hegemony to a world that is multipolar and where a rising China may soon mediate conflicts in Europe.

China, Turkey and France are trying to play a role mediating the Ukraine crisis.

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While France’s role is not unique historically, it has partnered with Russia since the 19th century and generally views US policy with skepticism. But the rising role of Turkey and China as potential mediators is historic.


This symbolizes a shift in world power away from US hegemony and the “new world order” promised by US president George H.W. Bush to a world that is multipolar and where a rising China may soon mediate conflicts in Europe.

What we know so far is that Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi on Saturday highlighted the urgent need for a diplomatic solution to the Ukraine crisis, according to Anadolu Agency, a Turkish state-run news agency.

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“We hope that a solution can be found through dialogue and consultation that will really guarantee security and stability in Europe,” he said in his video speech to the Munich Security Conference, Anadolu reported. “China’s chief diplomat added the Minsk agreement could be the basis for resolving the crisis diplomatically.”



U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken meets Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Rome, Italy October 31, 2021. (credit: Tiziana Fabi/Pool via REUTERS)
Chinese media outlets are not pushing this story, which means China may be concerned that if this initiative doesn’t pan out, it doesn’t want it to look like it failed. So China is acting behind the scenes and has not revealed what its actual agenda in Ukraine might be. China certainly would prefer to see a US setback.

The EU, NATO and others are indicating they see a Russian attempt to rewrite the rules of world order. In short, this means Russia could use force to redraw borders. Most borders in the world today are the result of European colonialism, and while European powers felt they could draw borders as they saw fit in places like the Middle East or South Asia, these same Europeans generally tell the indigenous people they are not allowed to redraw borders.

Since 1945 or 1960, this has been the case. Most of the world’s conflicts are a result of badly drawn borders that European colonial powers left behind. Much genocide has resulted because people were jammed together into countries and told they had to live together, and no group could secede or change their status since 1945. This is what is called “world order.”

Since the 1990s, US hegemony in the wake of the Cold War has attempted to solve some of these conflicts under a concept of global international liberal world order, including humanitarian interventions. This largely failed, and US global retreat is one consequence of this state of affairs.

“We stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment,” George H.W Bush said in September 1990.

“The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective, a new world order, can emerge: a new era freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace. An era in which the nations of the world, East and West, North and South, can prosper and live in harmony.”
He laid out some concepts of this world order.

“Today, that new world is struggling to be born, a world quite different from the one we’ve known,” he said. “A world where the rule of law supplants the rule of the jungle.”

Bush said this world would have shared responsibility for freedom and justice.

“A world where the strong respect the rights of the weak,” he said. “This is the vision that I shared with President [Mikhail] Gorbachev in Helsinki. He and other leaders from Europe, the Gulf, and around the world understand that how we manage this crisis today could shape the future for generations to come.”

He then said the crisis in the Gulf tested this new world.

“The test we face is great, and so are the stakes,” he said. “This is the first assault on the new world that we seek, the first test of our mettle. Had we not responded to this first provocation with clarity of purpose, if we do not continue to demonstrate our determination, it would be a signal to actual and potential despots around the world.”

TODAY, OTHER countries are seeking to step into the vacuum left by the US as that world order appears to collapse.

We can see how this unfolds by watching how Turkey invaded part of Syria in 2018 and 2019. In addition, China asserted itself in Hong Kong, cracking down on dissent, and China has been using more muscle to play a role on the South China Sea islands. Meanwhile, Iran has sent arms and support to groups wreaking havoc in Yemen, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.

While China says it supports dialogue to end the Ukraine crisis, Turkey also wants to mediate.

According to Turkish public broadcaster TRT World, “Turkey’s presidential spokesman [Ibrahim Kalin] has said the Turkish president continues his efforts to bring together the leaders of Russia and Ukraine amid rising tension along their borders.”

Kalin said “our president’s offer to bring the leaders of Russia and Ukraine together is actually the most important and concrete proposal to overcome this crisis,” TRT reported.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan “also discussed this issue with his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky, during a recent visit to the capital Kyiv, as well as in his phone calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin, and they are expected to have another call soon, said Kalin,” TRT reported.

Turkey is also preparing to host Putin. According to Kalin, “dialogue and diplomacy should be prioritized, tensions should be reduced, and mutual steps should be taken to reduce tensions.”

This is important. Turkey has sold Ukraine drones, and Ankara is buying the S-400 air-defense system from Russia. This shows Turkey is deeply involved in the situation. Russia and Turkey also meet with Iran as part of the Astana process to discuss Syria. Turkey also has reached out to the UAE and Israel recently. It wants to end several years of tensions that it imposed and stoked and try dialogue again, it claims.

Together, the messaging by Turkey and China represents a major shift from the words being used in Europe. The UK is warning of shock waves if there is an invasion in Ukraine. France warns of sanctions. The US warns of “unprecedented” sanctions. Germany and France have urged citizens to leave Ukraine.

The US seems to have new warnings of war every day. Last week, US media outlets said Russia was 70% ready for war, and some said 80% or more. The US says intelligence reports show Putin has decided to go to war. On February 12, the US said Russia could invade at any time. NATO believes a “full-scale” attack has been prepared against Ukraine. Russia even has lists of people it intends to round up after the invasion, US media reported.

French President Emmanuel Macron is making last-ditch efforts to avert a large-scale conflict in Ukraine, a French presidential administration official told reporters after his talks with Zelensky, according to Russian media outlets.

“The president of the republic is making his last efforts to prevent a major conflict in Ukraine,” the official was quoted as saying by Russian News Agency TASS. “He is ready for new steps for the sake of stability and peace and does not rule out new missions.”

France has long been concerned about US and British policies in the world. For instance, France was angered by a US deal with Australia that torpedoed a French submarine deal. France was able to get back at the US through a deal for jets with the UAE.

France, in general, was nonplussed by NATO throwing its weight around in the Balkans in the 1990s and was more sympathetic to Serbia at the time. That conflict, which saw the US and allies push Serbs out of Kosovo, was also a defining moment for Putin. He saw it as humiliating for Russia and its Serbian friends.

Now, two decades later, things have changed, and it is Putin who is prepared to tell the West what he wants. China, Turkey and France are using this opportunity to show they can carve out a new world order – one that upends several decades of US global hegemony.
 
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All unfolding as predicted by anyone with half a brain.... Surreal that a country can gobble up another with no legitimate reason in 2022..
Israelis keep doing it with each settlement they launch in the occupied Palestinian territories.

And India is not far behind with it's revocation of article 370.

When shed a crocodile tear for Ukraine.
 
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JUST IN: US Senior Official says Putin moving “peacekeeping forces” to Donetsk & Luhansk regions of #Ukraine may NOT trigger the "swift and severe" sanctions.

“Russia has had forces in the Donbas for the past 8 years,” official said

Gives you some clues, doesn't it. Plus, so far, new sanctions have been only put on the newly declared 'independent' states--and not on Russia. The Biden 'minor skirmish' comment perhaps a Freudian Slip.

To me the conflict has its roots in Russia's very special attachment to the eastern Ukraine region and unlike the USSR's Baltic states, it is hard for Putin's personal ego to swallow the loss of Ukraine. As @Indos says above: This is more about Russia's romantic attachment then some major strategic gain.

I also wished the corporations in the West had waited some more years to try to go for the Russian natural assets. Just like NATO is a relic of the past, so is Putin and his 'visions' for Russia. A post-Putin Russia is likely to be a much smaller country and will fit into Europe organically, in due course.

I am hoping and praying the hostilities stop right here. Maybe this will be the face-saving measure for both sides: Some meaningless sanctions imposed while Putin gets closer to Kiev at the same time helping the ethnic Russians in the Donbass region. A draw. Back to status quo of since 2014.
 
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Turkish official warns sanctions useless against Russia over Ukraine crisis​


Presidential spokesperson Ibrahim Kalin says possible sanctions against Russia would only put off underlying problems.
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Western leaders have been warning of an imminent Russian invasion of Ukraine, estimating that more than 150,000 Russian troops have encircled the country. (AA)


Turkish official warns sanctions useless against Russia over Ukraine crisis
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Presidential spokesperson Ibrahim Kalin says possible sanctions against Russia would only put off underlying problems.
Western leaders have been warning of an imminent Russian invasion of Ukraine, estimating that more than 150,000 Russian troops have encircled the country.
Western leaders have been warning of an imminent Russian invasion of Ukraine, estimating that more than 150,000 Russian troops have encircled the country. (AA)
Turkiye's presidential spokesperson has said that western sanctions against Russia over the crisis in eastern Ukraine would only delay underlying problems.

"Sanctions against Russia are useless," Ibrahim Kalin told the German newspaper Welt in an interview published on Sunday, adding it would be better to listen to and understand the strategic concerns of the other side.

Noting that Moscow feels threatened by NATO, Kalin said that three decades after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russian President Vladimir Putin seeks to redraw borders and renew strategic alliances.

Kalin's remarks came after the G7 group of the world's major economic powers urged Russia on Saturday to withdraw troops from the Ukrainian border and pursue a diplomatic solution to the crisis.

"Russia must de-escalate and fulfil its commitments," the foreign ministers of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the UK and the US said in a joint statement after their meeting in Munich.

They stressed their preference for a diplomatic solution but also underlined that they are ready to impose severe sanctions on Russia if it violates the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

Western countries have accused Russia of amassing nearly 150,000 troops along the Ukrainian border, prompting fears that it could be planning a military offensive against its former Soviet neighbor.

Moscow has repeatedly denied any plan to invade Ukraine and instead accused Western countries of undermining Russia's security through NATO's expansion toward its borders.

 
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The first thing the Russian Federation did was genocide the Chechen civilians in the First Chechen War. Murdered 10% of the Chechen population. Which would be something like killing 140 million Chinese (10% of the population)

Then putin as PM staged a false flag terror operation to blame the Chechens:


When everybody knows it was the FSB:


False Flags rarely make news as false flags, this did.

From that false flag the Russian Federation did another genocide of the Chechens. Killed another 10% of the Chechen population. Same as killing 140 million Chinese (10% of the population).

putin is a genociders and a false flagger. Same as Russian Empire and worse than the USSR.
 
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