Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria

[Mercenary]

Lol, we brought the Russians down their knees during Afghanistan war. I don't think they are welling to taste the same on a different time.

False news btw.

How did you bring the Russians to their knees? The war in Afghanistan was a back water war for the Russians. Its only the Muslim Jihadists who have elevated the Russian War in Afghanistan as something greater and bigger than World War II.

You had to run to USA to save you from Saddam and even then the Americans said Arabs were the most incompetent forces.

 

[Desert Fox]

Lol, we brought the Russians down their knees during Afghanistan war. I don't think they are welling to taste the same on a different time.

False news btw.

You didn't bring the "Russians down their knees" in Afghanistan, the Afghans did. And who are the Afghans? Pashtuns, Tajiks, Hazaras, Turkmen, Uzbeks, and many more. Funny, you and your countrymen were insulting Pashtuns on the other thread and now here you even claim credit for their achievement/victory???

More than 1 Million Afghans died fighting the Red Army and its puppet regime. Afghans defeated Soviet Red Army in Afghanistan, just as they defeated the British 3 times in Afghanistan, just as they bled Alexander's armies, just as they bled the mongols, and just as they are resisting foreign occupation of their country once again.

How did you bring the Russians to their knees? The war in Afghanistan was a back water war for the Russians. Its only the Muslim Jihadists who have elevated the Russian War in Afghanistan as something greater and bigger than World War II.

You had to run to USA to save you from Saddam and even then the Americans said Arabs were the most incompetent forces.

These people have a habit of claiming other people's achievements.

I don't know why people even bother with the russian vote at the UN,they always support some scumbag dictator who buys their weapons and follows the russian line,they've been doing this for decades just ignore the russian troll and be done with it.

Doesn't sound too different from what the US of A/NATO does. I don't think i need to provide examples of this.

 

[A.Rafay]

False news, Russia can't attack but talk and push empty threats.

 

[Desert Fox]

Unstoppable? You do know that camel-cavalry is not as effective as it used to be?

Not to worry Juice, they won't be using Camel Cavalry, in fact, they will backed by by none other than the USAF.

BTW, watch how Obama's "revolutionaries" spread democracy:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/middle...es-3-men-not-knowing-prayers.html#post4687169

Coming to the West soon, oops, wait, they're already here:

Pictured in the crowd which called for the beheading of British soldiers: Newly unearthed photo of terror suspect Adebolajo with banned extremist group | Mail Online

French soldier on duty stabbed by man 'of North African origin' in Paris, manhunt ongoing ? RT News

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

News Link:

Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria | EUTimes.net

Putin to strike Saudi if the West attacks Syria | Republika Online

Related Article:

Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria
Saudi Arabia has secretly offered Russia a sweeping deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia’s gas contracts, if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria.

Khaled al Otaiby, an official of the Saudi oil company Aramco watches progress at a rig at the al-Howta oil field near Howta, Saudi Arabia
OPEC raised production by 400,000 barrels per day to 29.7m Photo: AP

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

12:00PM BST 27 Aug 2013

The revelations come amid high tension in the Middle East, with US, British, and French warship poised for missile strikes in Syria. Iran has threatened to retaliate.

The strategic jitters pushed Brent crude prices to a five-month high of $112 a barrel. “We are only one incident away from a serious oil spike. The market is a lot tighter than people think,” said Chris Skrebowski, editor of Petroleum Review.

Leaked transcripts of a closed-door meeting between Russia’s Vladimir Putin and Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan shed an extraordinary light on the hard-nosed Realpolitik of the two sides.

Prince Bandar, head of Saudi intelligence, allegedly confronted the Kremlin with a mix of inducements and threats in a bid to break the deadlock over Syria. “Let us examine how to put together a unified Russian-Saudi strategy on the subject of oil. The aim is to agree on the price of oil and production quantities that keep the price stable in global oil markets,” he said at the four-hour meeting with Mr Putin. They met at Mr Putin’s dacha outside Moscow three weeks ago.

“We understand Russia’s great interest in the oil and gas in the Mediterranean from Israel to Cyprus. And we understand the importance of the Russian gas pipeline to Europe. We are not interested in competing with that. We can cooperate in this area,” he said, purporting to speak with the full backing of the US.

The talks appear to offer an alliance between the OPEC cartel and Russia, which together produce over 40m barrels a day of oil, 45pc of global output. Such a move would alter the strategic landscape.

The details of the talks were first leaked to the Russian press. A more detailed version has since appeared in the Lebanese newspaper As-Safir, which has Hezbollah links and is hostile to the Saudis.

As-Safir said Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord. “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” he allegedly said.

Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off. “These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria’s political future.”

President Putin has long been pushing for a global gas cartel, issuing the `Moscow Declaration’ last to month “defend suppliers and resist unfair pressure”. This would entail beefing up the Gas Exporting Countries Forum (GECF), a talking shop.

Mr Skrebowski said it is unclear what the Saudis can really offer the Russians on gas, beyond using leverage over Qatar and others to cut output of liquefied natural gas (LGN). “The Qataris are not going to obey Saudi orders,” he said.

Saudi Arabia could help boost oil prices by restricting its own supply. This would be a shot in the arm for Russia, which is near recession and relies on an oil price near $100 to fund the budget.

But it would be a dangerous strategy for the Saudis if it pushed prices to levels that endangered the world’s fragile economic recovery. Crude oil stocks in the US have already fallen sharply this year. Goldman Sachs said the “surplus cushion” in global stocks built up since 2008 has been completely eliminated.

Mr Skrebowski said trouble is brewing in a string of key supply states. “Libya is reverting to war lordism. Nigerian is drifting into a bandit state with steady loss of output. And Iraq is going back to the sort of Sunni-Shia civil war we saw in 2006-2007,” he said.

The Putin-Bandar meeting was stormy, replete with warnings of a “dramatic turn” in Syria. Mr Putin was unmoved by the Saudi offer, though western pressure has escalated since then. “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters,” he said, referring to footage showing a Jihadist rebel eating the heart and liver of a Syrian soldier.

Prince Bandar in turn warned that there can be “no escape from the military option” if Russia declines the olive branch. Events are unfolding exactly as he foretold.

Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria - Telegraph

 

[Juice]

Not to worry Juice, they won't be using Camel Cavalry, in fact, they will backed by by none other than the USAF.

BTW, watch how Obama's "revolutionaries" spread democracy:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/middle...es-3-men-not-knowing-prayers.html#post4687169

Coming to the West soon, oops, wait, they're already here:

Pictured in the crowd which called for the beheading of British soldiers: Newly unearthed photo of terror suspect Adebolajo with banned extremist group | Mail Online

French soldier on duty stabbed by man 'of North African origin' in Paris, manhunt ongoing ? RT News

USAF? He was talking about the Islamic world uniting against everyone else....not the Syrian conflict. As far as the "rebels".....I hope the right-wing camps catch a few missiles too.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

@Desert Fox

You didn't bring the "Russians down their knees" in Afghanistan, the Afghans did. And who are the Afghans? Pashtuns, Tajiks, Hazaras, Turkmen, Uzbeks, and many more. Funny, you and your countrymen were insulting Pashtuns on the other thread and now here you even claim credit for their achievement/victory???

The Afghans couldn't do a damn thing to begin with. Without Gen Zia and Fahad, things could have never been turned that way. Simply and plainly, It was none other than Pakistan, KSA, and the Taliban who acted out in response to the invasion. The Afghans didn't have guns or bullets, nor have they ever had been trained to carry out a guerrilla warfare

Just an FYI, ~10k Saudis died for your own country, you may not know that, and we don't care if you do or don't, but these are static historic facts.

Regarding the insult on the Pashtuns, if you care to read what's been said in that thread, you will be seeing my post condemning such use of a poor language from YOUR END to Al-Hasani's. Funnily enough, you have been insulting us for almost a year, yet, we didn't whine about your poor attitude simply because we try not to sink into a level of immaturity.

These people have a habit of claiming other people's achievements.

We didn't claim anything that supposed not to be ours. You will want to ask @Aeronaut @BATMAN @Pakistanisage @Imran Khan and hear back from them.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Oh ; ( how lame someone could really be

Unstoppable? You do know that camel-cavalry is not as effective as it used to be?

Thanks to Boeing, the BAE, and Lockheed Martin for equipping the RSAF with a state-of-the-art tech, but most importantly thanks to our paper that enabled us to hook up with someone else's wife\daughter.

Although this news is fake, but even if it was true, KSA wouldn't have many ways to retaliate. What can they do if Russia target their infrastructure with ballistic missiles? They can't intercept them nor can they use their air force since 2 countries are far from each other and also, Russia doesn't have any military base in ME for KSA to target it. So they can basically do nothing unless U.S enters the game.

No way

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Khatab's legacy is eternal.

RiP Khatab

Still you failed to provide any proof that anything but USA made Israeli provided Pakistan delivered Afghan used Stinger missile resulted in russaian withdrawal from Afghanistan.

I suppose that It won't take another 600k Iranians to realize what the major role we played during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan?

Wrong , only attack on two city in ksa enrage the muslims . For the rest of it , I doubt you find many crying eye.

So sorry, but you aren't muslim, which means, you can't speak on their behalf.

 

[FCPX]

Fake Fake Fake - Obvious to anyone who has even a modicum of sense.

Might make a good Hollywood or Bollywood movie though?

 

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[Echo_419]

Some one take Putin's Vodka away

 

[SBD-3]

Meet Saudi Arabia's Bandar bin Sultan: The Puppetmaster Behind The Syrian War
Yesterday the Telegraph's Evans-Pritchard dug up a note that we had posted almost a month ago, relating to the "secret" meeting between Saudi Arabia and Russia, in which Saudi's influential intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan met with Putin and regaled him with gifts, including a multi-billion arms deal and a promise that Saudi is "ready to help Moscow play a bigger role in the Middle East at a time when the United States is disengaging from the region", if only Putin would agree to give up his alliance with Syria's al-Assad and let Syria take over, ostensibly including control of the country's all important natgas transit infrastructure. What was not emphasized by the Telegraph is that Putin laughed at the proposal and brushed aside the Saudi desperation by simply saying "nyet." However, what neither the Telegraph, nor we three weeks ago, picked up on, is what happened after Putin put Syria in its place. We now know, and it's a doozy.



Courtesy of As-Safir (translated here), we learn all the gritty details about what really happened at the meeting, instead of just the Syrian motives and the Russian conclusion, and most importantly what happened just as the meeting ended, unsuccessfully (at least to the Saudi). And by that we mean Saudi Arabia's threats toward Russia and Syria.

First, some less well-known observations on who it was that was supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt even as US support was fading fast:

Bandar said that the matter is not limited to the kingdom and that some countries have overstepped the roles drawn for them, such as Qatar and Turkey. He added, “We said so directly to the Qataris and to the Turks. We rejected their unlimited support to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and elsewhere. The Turks’ role today has become similar to Pakistan’s role in the Afghan war. We do not favor extremist religious regimes, and we wish to establish moderate regimes in the region. It is worthwhile to pay attention to and to follow up on Egypt’s experience. We will continue to support the [Egyptian] army, and we will support Defense Minister Gen. Abdel Fattah al-Sisi because he is keen on having good relations with us and with you. And we suggest to you to be in contact with him, to support him and to give all the conditions for the success of this experiment. We are ready to hold arms deals with you in exchange for supporting these regimes, especially Egypt.”

So while Saudi was openly supporting the Egyptian coup, which is well-known, it was Turkey and most importantly Qatar, the nation that is funding and arming the Syrian rebels, that were the supporters of the now failed regime. One wonders just how much Egypt will straing Saudi-Qatari relations, in light of their joined interests in Syria.

Second, some better-known observations by Putin on Russia's relationship with Iran:

Regarding Iran, Putin said to Bandar that Iran is a neighbor, that Russia and Iran are bound by relations that go back centuries, and that there are common and tangled interests between them. Putin said, “We support the Iranian quest to obtain nuclear fuel for peaceful purposes. And we helped them develop their facilities in this direction. Of course, we will resume negotiations with them as part of the 5P+1 group. I will meet with President Hassan Rouhani on the sidelines of the Central Asia summit and we will discuss a lot of bilateral, regional and international issues. We will inform him that Russia is completely opposed to the UN Security Council imposing new sanctions on Iran. We believe that the sanctions imposed against Iran and Iranians are unfair and that we will not repeat the experience again.”

Then, Putin's position vis-a-vis Turkey, whom he implicitly warns that it is "not immune to Syria's bloodbath."

Regarding the Turkish issue, Putin spoke of his friendship with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan; “Turkey is also a neighboring country with which we have common interests. We are keen to develop our relations in various fields. During the Russian-Turkish meeting, we scrutinized the issues on which we agree and disagree. We found out that we have more converging than diverging views. I have already informed the Turks, and I will reiterate my stance before my friend Erdogan, that what is happening in Syria necessitates a different approach on their part. Turkey will not be immune to Syria’s bloodbath. The Turks ought to be more eager to find a political settlement to the Syrian crisis. We are certain that the political settlement in Syria is inevitable, and therefore they ought to reduce the extent of damage. Our disagreement with them on the Syrian issue does not undermine other understandings between us at the level of economic and investment cooperation. We have recently informed them that we are ready to cooperate with them to build two nuclear reactors. This issue will be on the agenda of the Turkish prime minister during his visit to Moscow in September.”

Of course, there is Syria:

Regarding the Syrian issue, the Russian president responded to Bandar, saying, “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters. During the Geneva I Conference, we agreed with the Americans on a package of understandings, and they agreed that the Syrian regime will be part of any settlement. Later on, they decided to renege on Geneva I. In all meetings of Russian and American experts, we reiterated our position. In his upcoming meeting with his American counterpart John Kerry, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov will stress the importance of making every possible effort to rapidly reach a political settlement to the Syrian crisis so as to prevent further bloodshed.”

Alas, that has failed.

So what are some of the stunning disclosures by the Saudis? First this:

Bandar told Putin, “There are many common values ??and goals that bring us together, most notably the fight against terrorism and extremism all over the world. Russia, the US, the EU and the Saudis agree on promoting and consolidating international peace and security. The terrorist threat is growing in light of the phenomena spawned by the Arab Spring. We have lost some regimes. And what we got in return were terrorist experiences, as evidenced by the experience of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and the extremist groups in Libya. ... As an example, I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics in the city of Sochi on the Black Sea next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us, and they will not move in the Syrian territory’s direction without coordinating with us. These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role or influence in Syria’s political future.”

It is good of the Saudis to admit they control a terrorist organization that "threatens the security" of the Sochi 2014 Olympic games, and that house of Saud uses "in the face of the Syrian regime." Perhaps the next time there is a bombing in Boston by some Chechen-related terrorists, someone can inquire Saudi Arabia what, if anything, they knew about that.

But the piece de resistance is what happened at the end of the dialogue between the two leaders. It was, in not so many words, a threat by Saudi Arabia aimed squarely at Russia:

As soon as Putin finished his speech, Prince Bandar warned that in light of the course of the talks, things were likely to intensify, especially in the Syrian arena, although he appreciated the Russians’ understanding of Saudi Arabia’s position on Egypt and their readiness to support the Egyptian army despite their fears for Egypt's future.

The head of the Saudi intelligence services said that the dispute over the approach to the Syrian issue leads to the conclusion that “there is no escape from the military option, because it is the only currently available choice given that the political settlement ended in stalemate. We believe that the Geneva II Conference will be very difficult in light of this raging situation.”

At the end of the meeting, the Russian and Saudi sides agreed to continue talks, provided that the current meeting remained under wraps. This was before one of the two sides leaked it via the Russian press.
Since we know all about this, it means no more talks, an implicit warning that the Chechens operating in proximity to Sochi may just become a loose cannon (with Saudi's blessing of course), and that about a month ago "there is no escape from the military option, because it is the only currently available choice given that the political settlement ended in stalemate." Four weeks later, we are on the edge of all out war, which may involve not only the US and Europe, but most certainly Saudi Arabia and Russia which automatically means China as well. Or, as some may call it, the world.

And all of it as preordained by a Saudi prince, and all in the name of perpetuating the hegemony of the petrodollar.

P.S. Russia and Saudi Arabia account for 25% of global oil production.
Meet Saudi Arabia's Bandar bin Sultan: The Puppetmaster Behind The Syrian War | Zero Hedge

 

[Waqas Khosa]

You are right.... Even then who will rule the Holy Cities man??? Man i don't know whats your religion is but if u r Muslim then may be you don't know the Muslims emotions about these two Holy cities.... Just let Russia do this Mistake once and you will see the results... then it will not be between KSA and Russia it will be between Muslims and Non Muslims...

 

[HariPrasad]

Ballistic missiles have pathetic accuracy ( high CEP ) and are considered useless without a Nuke.

Iskandar has single digit accuracy.