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Putin Looks to Pakistan as Cold War Friend India Buys U.S. Arms

Russians took India for granted, asking for exorbitant price for Vikramaditya, delays in deliveries etc, now they have to hook up with cash stripped pakistan. Russians must be happy now.
 
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Haven't seen a more immature post since a long time. TBH, the level of paranonia and disappointment being shown by some, is amazing to say the least. Times change, dear, times change. The people trying to teach us foreign policy and history should make an effort to keep that in mind.


If you citizens have no faith in future regarding trade and resources , then who will have?

What is the point in that opinion you think is paranoid.?

Be specific and have a debate over it rather than using rating power and dismissing it as a whole.

Im ready, lets do it.

I'll be pro Pakistan and u dismiss the facts.. what say?
 
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I gave him a negative rating and he gives me a negative rating just for pointing that out. He is butthurt.

You gave unnecessarily one, if u think my claims are overhyped, give every person one who claims stuff like that , there are plenty in defence threads with huge claims ...... practice , not preach.
 
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You mean to say you have no resources and no probable purchase orders or future products Russia can offer and no trade potential or co operation on various sectors.

Negative rating for telling there is.....

WoW. Simply wow.
No we dont have any of those things!!!! But still Russia is willing to cooperate with us, willing to sell us weapons, willing to increase trade and economic relations with us. Signs defence cooperation pact with us. Acknowledges our sacrifice and contribution in War on terror, says a lot about Indias diplomatic failure to keep Pakistan away from having defence ties with Russia.
 
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You gave unnecessarily one, if u think my claims are overhyped, give every person one who claims stuff like that , there are plenty in defence threads with huge claims ...... practice , not preach.
You were clearly trolling....... Immature post that was, deserved negative rating.
 
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No we dont have any of those things!!!! But still Russia is willing to cooperate with us, willing to sell us weapons, willing to increase trade and economic relations with us. Signs defence cooperation pact with us. Acknowledges our sacrifice and contribution in War on terror, says a lot about Indias diplomatic failure to keep Pakistan away from having defence ties with Russia.


I have specifically told about potential(of having in future), not about what you two had.
 
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You were clearly trolling....... Immature post that was, deserved negative rating.

So everytime i feel you troll, i simply give as i like???

Is that much childish?

The whole post revolved around the relation and potentials..... no offtopic, no flames, no insults, no degradation,.... only optimism and hope in it..and you dont like it. You know how much and what much people write on Indian social forums by TTs here saying all the above here, if we start a rating contest its not good for anybody.
 
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No we dont have any of those things!!!! But still Russia is willing to cooperate with us, willing to sell us weapons, willing to increase trade and economic relations with us. Signs defence cooperation pact with us. Acknowledges our sacrifice and contribution in War on terror, says a lot about Indias diplomatic failure to keep Pakistan away from having defence ties with Russia.

I wont call it a Diplomatic failure by India....... Because this was already there on cards for a long time...... If this happened 10 years back then yes..... this would have been a diplomatic failure.... When we started having close relationship with adversaries of Russia, I am sure the agencies must have considered the risk factor..... Well the most important thing is, Russia and India had a very long relationship, and we still are friends......
 
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If you citizens have no faith in future regarding trade and resources , then who will have?

What is the point in that opinion you think is paranoid.?

Be specific and have a debate over it rather than using rating power and dismissing it as a whole.

Im ready, lets do it.

I'll be pro Pakistan and u dismiss the facts.. what say?

There's simply no point in that sarcastic post, thats the point, the Russians by their words and deeds dont seem to agree with the stupidity and the butthurt shown earlier. The only thing that post does show is childish mentality, the inablility to comprehend simple things as the changing requirements for both Pakistan and Russia and not being able to digest the fact that the relation are getting better between both countries. Nah, I dont really have the time to argue with people who are going berserk and writing BS on a mere max 2 squadron heli deal bought for COINs, that shouldn't even concern them. Possibly, the Modi Govt should send an envoy to Moscow, to make them understand whats good for them. :azn:
 
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There's simply no point in that sarcastic post, thats the point, the Russians by their words and deeds dont seem to agree with the stupidity and the butthurt shown earlier. The only thing that post does show is childish mentality, the inablility to comprehend simple things as the changing requirements for both Pakistan and Russia and not being able to digest the fact that the relation are getting better between both countries. Nah, I dont really have the time to argue with people who are going berserk and writing BS on a mere max 2 squadron heli deal bought for COINs, that shouldn't even concern them. Possibly, the Modi Govt should send an envoy to Moscow, to make them understand whats good for them. :azn:


If trade, economy, influence, resources are not bases of a relation, what is???????

And please stop typing words like butthurt, comprehention , childish etc etc... not suitable ...not interested..

Facts by facts...i said i am ok with debate , no whining, complaining and words like above.
 
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Half of the comments from Indian members sound more self apologetic rather than actually looking at the crux of the subject.
 
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There's simply no point in that sarcastic post, thats the point, the Russians by their words and deeds dont seem to agree with the stupidity and the butthurt shown earlier. The only thing that post does show is childish mentality, the inablility to comprehend simple things as the changing requirements for both Pakistan and Russia and not being able to digest the fact that the relation are getting better between both countries. Nah, I dont really have the time to argue with people who are going berserk and writing BS on a mere max 2 squadron heli deal bought for COINs, that shouldn't even concern them. Possibly, the Modi Govt should send an envoy to Moscow, to make them understand whats good for them. :azn:

Russia is too weak now to trying to play double games now,they have only one major export market and apart from selling small stuff to rival forces they cannot essentially eat more than they can digest.With every passing year their condition is worsening compared to last year,,,,,they quite simply have no option.
 
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If trade, economy, influence, resources are not bases of a relation, what is???????

And please stop typing words like butthurt, comprehention , childish etc etc... not suitable ...not interested..

Facts by facts...i said i am ok with debate , no whining, complaining and words like above.

If only that you were trying to infer with that post of no value intended for trolling technically, possibly a realization of the fact that the world doesn't revolve around the tri-star has caused such defensive mechanisms to kick in.
 
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really Russia is going to turn it's back on India???

who has more money or will have more money to spend on it's military Pakistan or India???

Russia made a bad move.
still lots of $$ to be made with India.
 
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Fact of the matter is that Pakistan will never be able to move into the "anti US" camp, as long as Saudis and Americans are allies, which lets face it, is not going to change anytime soon. America can work Pakistan like a muppet via Saudi Arabia, it need not have direct good relations with Pakistan at all.

As for the thaw in Pakistan-Russia relationship, thats not necessarily a bad thing for India, as it will help our designs in Afghanistan and Central Asia. As for India-Russia relationship is concerned just wait till Putin's visit to India in the next couple of weeks 8-)
 
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