Punjab terror attack: Is there a 'China' angle?

[DESERT FIGHTER]

100% wrong. He said that "thorn" thing in Hindi, and THEN he made his "terrorists" remark in English.

You can read his full quote from the source:

‘You have to neutralise terrorist through terrorist only,’ says Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar | The Indian Express

Responding to a question at Manthan Aaj Tak in New Delhi, Parrikar said: “If any country, why Pakistan, is planning something against my country, I will take proactive steps. Of course, not in the public domain. But what I have to do, I will do it. Whether it is diplomatic, whether it is pressure tactics or whether it is using the… woh usko bolte hain na Marathi mein kaante se kaanta nikaalte hain… Hindi mein bhi rahega… you have to neutralise terrorist through terrorist only.”

One downside from having English as the de facto link language of India, you can't claim a misunderstanding based on translation issues.

This US State dept guy is an indian troll... You should also check out his bastardised explains toon of Chuch Hageals statement over indian terrorism in Pak..

 

[Spectre]

100% wrong. He said that "thorn" thing in Hindi, and THEN he made his "terrorists" remark in English.

You can read his full quote from the source:

‘You have to neutralise terrorist through terrorist only,’ says Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar | The Indian Express

Responding to a question at Manthan Aaj Tak in New Delhi, Parrikar said: “If any country, why Pakistan, is planning something against my country, I will take proactive steps. Of course, not in the public domain. But what I have to do, I will do it. Whether it is diplomatic, whether it is pressure tactics or whether it is using the… woh usko bolte hain na Marathi mein kaante se kaanta nikaalte hain… Hindi mein bhi rahega… you have to neutralise terrorist through terrorist only.”

One downside from having English as the de facto link language of India, you can't claim a misunderstanding based on translation issues.

My friend, Please don't get riled up. Our DM's remark is to be taken in context and the only ones who should get agitated are the terrorists. The remark whichever one you take up only mean that terrorist would be neutralized by terrorists. Nothing else is meant.

China is a valued trade partner of India, lots of members in my family make their living based on import of Chinese goods so I have nothing but respect for China.

I fully understand you statement as China can't be held responsible for who does what with their goods and if Indian officials or media have hinted at China hand in this act of terrorism then they are plain wrong and moreover idiots.

The Gun itself is always blameless fault lies always with the person who pulls the trigger.

 

[Foo_Fighter]

I can believe anyone but china's angle into it... They are more particular about terrorism then us.
Also, recently ISIS attacked a Syrian base with made in America weapon which had been purchased through re sell.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Jango, I agree this bit about China's involvement as being hogwash. However- I have seen you post several times where you strongly believe that Pakistan is not supporting, helping, training and sending terrorists over to India. You always dismiss it as being fake or Indian propaganda.

You do know that India's claims is also of those outside India i.e. 100% of the developed world agrees with India(I know we do)and 99.9% of the rest. So I'm curious what is your objective in posting that these are all lies. For pet's sake you not only have the who's who of the terrorist world found in Pakistan, you even have the UN designating your citizens as terrorists.

Hi buddy ol pal! Can you give the same funny explanation again!

 

[Jango]

Jango, I agree this bit about China's involvement as being hogwash. However- I have seen you post several times where you strongly believe that Pakistan is not supporting, helping, training and sending terrorists over to India. You always dismiss it as being fake or Indian propaganda.

You do know that India's claims is also of those outside India i.e. 100% of the developed world agrees with India(I know we do)and 99.9% of the rest. So I'm curious what is your objective in posting that these are all lies. For pet's sake you not only have the who's who of the terrorist world found in Pakistan, you even have the UN designating your citizens as terrorists.

Having terrorists in your country isn't the same as 'supporting' them.

You want me to believe that every other cracker in India is because of Pakistan?

My suggestions to Indians would be to make their solid case, go to The Hague or somewhere, UN,, push for embargoes on Pakistan, go to war, economic sanctions, whatever...if you do have enough irrefutable evidence that every attack in India is because of Pakistan.

This whole thing is getting tiring now, for Pakistanis and as well as Indians I am sure. Just keep on mouthing off, and making allegations, after a week all is merry. Pursue your case if you so firmly believe in Pakistan's involvement.

But that's right, you don't.

Secondly, is the Indian intelligence and security apparatus so two nut useless that they can't stop people crossing the IB and then carrying out such attacks?

If the Indian intelligence can find out half an hour after the attack that terrorists came from which city in Pakistan and who sent them, surely they can stop them as well.

There's a saying in Urdu, kuch karna hai to kar lo warna chup ho jao. Roughly translated as, if you want to do something, just do it otherwise stop your nonsense.

UN also declares Saudi citizens as terrorists, Saudia is a terrorist state then?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Jango, I agree this bit about China's involvement as being hogwash. However- I have seen you post several times where you strongly believe that Pakistan is not supporting, helping, training and sending terrorists over to India. You always dismiss it as being fake or Indian propaganda.

You do know that India's claims is also of those outside India i.e. 100% of the developed world agrees with India(I know we do)and 99.9% of the rest. So I'm curious what is your objective in posting that these are all lies. For pet's sake you not only have the who's who of the terrorist world found in Pakistan, you even have the UN designating your citizens as terrorists.

US had also declared modi a criminal ... Barred him from entering US? The UN also accuses indian mulitary of war crimes in the disputed Kashmir region etc etc?

And here you have no evidence ? The suspects were declared Pakistanis just after 5 mins of the attack (hahaha) without any damn investigation? Funny how 4 men made their way through the worlds most heavily guarded border... Mined,fenceds and guarded for miles not to forget how they managed to get out of no mans land ... Than they took a bus ? And landed in a indian City etx ? But they somehow forgot to erase the "proof" aka the GPS? Sounds pretty fukin stupid... Meanwhile at the same time Khalistan demands have been risen by indian sikhs ?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

As I said above, whichever translation, intent you want to take. It still means using the enemies assets to divide, and attack them from within. I'm just not sure of what you try to elude to, with repeating his quote adnauseum here.

In Balochi ... We have a word for people like you .. "Keersar" ... Literal translation "dickhead"...

 

[Kaniska]

Shhhh... Wait and watch... This shit is getting dumber by the minute..




I hope you don't find Iranian detergent brand PAK,an oversized NIC issued by imaginery "Riyast e Panjab" (State of Panjab) shaving kits,made in Pak (Trim Brand) shaving razors and Uncle Lee's Dumplings and fortune cookies with em... Coz that we be scary..



P.S: These 4 men must be SUPAAAA MEN.. To cross the fenced,mined and heaviily guarded International border....which probably has more security than the DMZ in Korea..

Supermen...Why??? Crossing India and Pakistan Border in Punjan and rajstand is not so tough as it is presented...It may be true for Jammu and Kashmir...In any way...i am with the opinion that Indian agencies has a habbit of blaming Pakistan to avoid then own shortcomings...Even i was amused to know that withing 24 hour, they could easily crack from which place the terrorist came too...I do not find their theory..Honestly..these kind of media cheap journalism is only hurting teh cause..I was expecting that there should be a proper investigation before Army to make a statement...Otherwise, I do not really buy this theory..It is too fishy...

Bottomline is that do not make ISI a successful agencies due to your own deficiency...Just because Indian IB does not have any concrete clue, then it does not make any sense to just blame ISI and wash off from everything....

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Having terrorists in your country isn't the same as 'supporting' them.

You want me to believe that every other cracker in India is because of Pakistan?

My suggestions to Indians would be to make their solid case, go to The Hague or somewhere, UN,, push for embargoes on Pakistan, go to war, economic sanctions, whatever...if you do have enough irrefutable evidence that every attack in India is because of Pakistan.

This whole thing is getting tiring now, for Pakistanis and as well as Indians I am sure. Just keep on mouthing off, and making allegations, after a week all is merry. Pursue your case if you so firmly believe in Pakistan's involvement.

But that's right, you don't.

Secondly, is the Indian intelligence and security apparatus so two nut useless that they can't stop people crossing the IB and then carrying out such attacks?

If the Indian intelligence can find out half an hour after the attack that terrorists came from which city in Pakistan and who sent them, surely they can stop them as well.

There's a saying in Urdu, kuch karna hai to kar lo warna chup ho jao. Roughly translated as, if you want to do something, just do it otherwise stop your nonsense.

UN also declares Saudi citizens as terrorists, Saudia is a terrorist state then?

There is plenty of evidence. Evidence that was also used to convict in U.S courts too that has been provided. The problem is, and off the record your politicians have told us. These terror groups like LET JUD, Haqqani etc. are too powerful and too big to takedown. .

 

[Jango]

There is plenty of evidence. Evidence that was also used to convict in U.S courts too that has been provided. The problem is, and off the record your politicians have told us. These terror groups like LET JUD, Haqqani etc. are too powerful and too big to takedown. .

Haqqani is wiped out from NW, Malik Ishaq got killed today...what are you on about?

As I said before, if you have evidence, go and so something.

Walk the talk!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Modi was not declared a criminal, ever.

so was he banned from entering usa for the heck of it?

I'm not discussing this case specifically. I am talking at large, an acknowledgement of pakistan being a sponsor and supporter of many terrorists groups. In other words- This is not a personal opinion

You kno I've spent 4-5 years on PDF and learnt a lot ... How to deal with flase flag indiots like yourself ... So ... Il just say this ... So what the Fk u gonna do ?!


P.S; Look around you cup cake.

 

[Viper0011.]

Modi was not declared a criminal, ever.

I am talking at large, an acknowledgement of pakistan being a sponsor and supporter of many terrorists groups. In other words- This is not a personal opinion

If Modi wasn't considered a terrorist when he helped Murder thousands and Indian Hindu extremist fractions aren't considered terrorist either (who've killed hundreds of thousands over many years in cold blood)......then what's the terrorists definition? If you are Hindu, its allowed to kill Muslims and Christians and that's legal, and not considered terrorism? And if you are Muslim.....then you are a terrorist???

Either you read Indian laws or they didn't teach you very good at the state Dept when you were pushing papers there. Your definition is biased and pretty freaking illegal. And you have the gutts to show up on posts like these, hinting everything is a US government's opinion when you have 0 understanding of law or credibility!!!! This shows me the State Dept. needs lay offs just like the regular public companies. There is a LOT of crap there, if there are more people like you working there, pushing papers or being the office boy!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

As I said above, whichever translation, intent you want to take. It still means using the enemies assets to divide, and attack them from within. I'm just not sure of what you try to elude to, with repeating his quote adnauseum here.

So you understand what that guy really wanted to say? Because you can sense it ?

Supermen...Why??? Crossing India and Pakistan Border in Punjan and rajstand is not so tough as it is presented...It may be true for Jammu and Kashmir...In any way...i am with the opinion that Indian agencies has a habbit of blaming Pakistan to avoid then own shortcomings...Even i was amused to know that withing 24 hour, they could easily crack from which place the terrorist came too...I do not find their theory..Honestly..these kind of media cheap journalism is only hurting teh cause..I was expecting that there should be a proper investigation before Army to make a statement...Otherwise, I do not really buy this theory..It is too fishy...

Bottomline is that do not make ISI a successful agencies due to your own deficiency...Just because Indian IB does not have any concrete clue, then it does not make any sense to just blame ISI and wash off from everything....

Thanks..

 

[Viper0011.]

I have seen you post several times where you strongly believe that Pakistan is not supporting, helping, training and sending terrorists over to India..

I think even a TEN year old Child knows both India and Pakistan fuel terrorism into each others' territory. Pakistan focuses on Kashmir as the core issue (since the Sikhs were taken out at the Golden temple).

While India spreads terrorism and trains terrorist and send those through Afghanistan into Baluchistan, KPK and Karachi, just as a couple of examples. In fact, I believe (looking at the past 1 year's worth of terror attacks just inside Pakistan), that the Indian supported terror network has gained very deep roots in Pakistan, that it can target anywhere.

I've also seen posts by Indian military or other personnel on here, claiming the same or openly threatening Pakistan of "watch what's about to happen inside Pakistan".

What the world wants to know and wants to see is, when can both the retards understand this issue, sign a no-war agreement and a joint terrorism investigation agreement. India wants to stop the trade corridor development inside Pakistan with the Chinese help. And India is willing to go to many extents to do that. I think its been made very clear by many Indian leaders. So the million dollar question is, when can this terror shiit stop from both sides so over 1.5 billion people can live in peace and in a stable environment and without the constant fear of a big kaboom one day.

 

[TimeTraveller]

No....There is no China angle in this.......

Explain what? You take one video of Chuck's inarticulate , opaque statement as some confirmation of whatever you want it mean. I know what he meant, and it had zip to do with what you think it meant.

So buddy Ol Pal, American Chuck is good when you want to believe he meant something surreptitious about india, but when Chuck also said you support terror groups, the American Chuck becomes Ameriki lier!



I told you repeatedly, your conspiracies, your religious bigotry against India, albeit understandable coming from a Pakistani- is just frustrated talk. We thank you for tax dollars and contribution, and we will put it to to good use in supporting India .

Thanks Sir .........

 

[Jango]

No sir, they are not wiped out. Even as early as couple of weeks ago, our state dept, our military heads were talking about still continued support by your intelligence agencies of terror groups attacking us, and others in the neighbourhood.

The objective- well at least mine here, is that we see Pakistan changing course, not asking others to go do something about it.

Oh really!

Any recent incidences of Pak supported terror groups attacking you a couple of weeks ago?