Pulwama was attempt to start an indo pakistan war and india despite intelligence didn't stop Mumbai attacks or Pulwama

[Pakistansdefender]

Starkling revelations
One thing we have to agree is that pakistan has been left far far behind in propaganda warfare. The Indian ability to penetrate our society, gathering knowledge, planting ideologies and creating anti state elements is far more superior then pakistan can ever have.
As the expert said: India has successfully portrayed itself as a benign state, despite being the greatest perpetrator of terror, that it is mind-boggling .
Despite prior information to pulwama and Mumbai attacks by American and British agencies, indians didn't act. That has served their purpose so well.
Its so sad that we don't have such discussions in pakistan.
No one is capable enough to having such discussions. Not only that but to control the sensivities around it..
You do also have appreciate that in india their political parties don't take the anti stablishment line or make these things an issue. While in pakistan the parties that are in opposition right now would get any chance to malign the state, the army and everything along with it, if they are not in power.
For them the state is not worth of not in power and is to blame for all the ills of the world. India has penetrated the leadership of pmln and ppp, who would do anything at this point to stay in power. Be it at the mercy of Pakistan's interest. While asking isi to stop terrorism in india, they never ask Raw to reciprocate the same for pakistan.
The situation is so bad that a 'nobody' in azad kashmir elections, while loosing threaten the state of contacting india. I don't even know his name, and he has the audacity to even utter those words..
Nowadays every single person, that loose an election blame their defeat on the state.
India has created a lot of internal enemies for us to fight.
They main indian goal is one. Pakistan should not only stop any proxy in kashmir but also for once remove the desire of kashmir from their hearts.
Pakistan policy right now is that they have stopped all forms of proxies and hoping to keep the issue alive diplomatically, until in a decade or 2 when pakistan become economically stable, Pakistan would attack with such a force that no one can stop them from taking kashmir.
That is a good policy. But we do need peace for economic stability, and stability wouldnt come it people sitting in uae and Afghanistan would hire people on phone in pakistan to carry out some random bomb attack.
There are so many people of different hue and colours that anyone can hire them in pakistan for some random activity. Lahore attack showed that how handlers were booked though phone, money transfered online for that car bomb to be planted.
The situation is complicated but pakistani state cannot tolerate anymore collateral damages.

 

[Splurgenxs]

This guys makes the RAW piss drinkers and NSA gobar lovers, out to be some sort of experts, pfft what a joke.
The guy is just fishing for a gullible audience.

Congratulations are due for the ISI and Pakistan for its victory in Afghanistan.
You showed em.

 

[Black Tornado]

A random journo is so credible, but if DW makes a cocumentary (with archives, experts and people who were involved in combating such attacks) it’s wrong.

 

[Tornado23]

A random journo is so credible, but if DW makes a cocumentary (with archives, experts and people who were involved in combating such attacks) it’s wrong.

It is pretty evident it was a false flag for a war

 

[Titanium100]

Lol.. Everyone and his dog knew in Pakistan that both attacks were inside jobs.. It feels like you just wake up to life from a long coma.. Listen to Hamid Gul clearly saying it that it was an inside job the whole Intelligence and everyone else in the government knew it was an inside job and I mean both attacks..

The Indians are very slow in everything they do... Trust me on this...

Even Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 November in the Afghan-Pakistani border and was buried there due to natural causes and you may ask yourself but but who was the Bin Laden who lived on for another 10 years that was an actor called Tim Osman. The US knew Bin Laden had died and they needed some sort of a villian so they had to create a villian and Osama Bin Laden was that villian and oh yeah 9/11 was an inside job and there is even a man admitting to being part of these who installed the TNT inside the basement and saying we did it at his death bed and saying he can't die without telling the truth.. Btw notice how OBL was a manufactured hype job they spammed his news for years and years on end and it was unnatural and seemed artificial they wanted to create villian for themselves they wanted ''Monster'' So they could create for themselves an image of a ''Hero'' to the world.

If you listen to Hamid Gul's old interviews he basically says it as it is Bin laden has been buried and even his death has made it to the local Pakistani media around 2001 november and that he was buried etc etc.. Hamid Gul and ISI knew all of it and even the 10 year active Bin Laden being an actor

 

[El Sidd]

A random journo is so credible, but if DW makes a cocumentary (with archives, experts and people who were involved in combating such attacks) it’s wrong.

Limited war is all what Modi wanted.

 

[Splurgenxs]

Lol.. Everyone and his dog knew in Pakistan that both attacks were inside jobs.. It feels like you just wake up to life itself from a coma.. Listen to Hamid Gul clearly saying it that it was an inside job the whole Intelligence and everyone else in the government knew it was an inside job and I mean both attacks..

The Indians are very slow in everything they do... Trust me on this

I Trust you completely , only because you said "Trust me on this".
With so many untrustworthy fellows in this world , you are an oasis of trust my friend.

It is pretty evident it was a false flag for a war

What war , the LOC is peaceful.

 

[mudas777]

If we want any progress in the security of our country first we need to muzzle our press, media and politicians. We have got no clear policy what can be written, printed, broadcasted and limitations. Politician's are openly corrupt with the institutions connivance and can't get tired of threatening to break the state of Pakistan. Why we are allowing these people to attack the state in which they live and rob from.
I never ever have heard in the UK if i don't get jelly babies the UK union will be in the danger. Why have we allowed any one free licence of delivering speeches and to play part in politics to attack institutions, talk of breaking up the country from last 70 years why aren't they behind the bars? Send 20 people behind the bars for next 30 years and let them rot and no amnesty lets see how many of the rest will ever will talk about the free Sindh, Baluchistan or the rest. Free to speech YES, free foreign agenda contents NO.

 

[Maula Jatt]

I believe focus on internal issues, stability, cleaning the house and economy rn

We have achieved objective on our western flanks, so I don't see proxies lasting for 2 years max

Maintain somewhat of a millitary balance, turn the "conflict" side of Kashmir a little cold, but keep it alive in public conscious and ofcourse with foreign policy etc

Do this for 2-3 decades

These 2-3 decades in itself can be interesting

As China grows, Pak a constant threat, ofcourse as a pure millitary side of it this alliance can be catastrophic for India if it ever turns hot

But genuinely hope it stays peaceful and I think it will too if India doesn't do anything stupid with China

This pressure in itself can force em to the negotiating table with both sides

And even China has suggested multiple times that all 3 countries should come together and negotiate our territorial issues, infact they much prefer all of 3 sides signing an agreement

So war is out of question during these decades cause consequences are bad, another hope is encirclement forcing em to the negotiating table where 2 vs 1 can be a potentially powerful position during negotiations

If none of these scenarios happen (I doubt it) than either way if you get things in order you'll be in a much more powerful position if security improves, stability comes 2-3 decades from now

 

[TNT]

I say let them start war, let there be an all out war. These ugly smelly scumbags think they can defeat us, let us show them what we r made of. We know well these mofos will be crying and running when they see death.

 

[Surya 1]

Limited war is all what Modi wanted.

But it didn't happened unfortunately.

 

[El Sidd]

But it didn't happened unfortunately.

It did. Gulwan

 

[Tornado23]

I Trust you completely , only because you said "Trust me on this".
With so many untrustworthy fellows in this world , you are an oasis of trust my friend.



What war , the LOC is peaceful.

Ahhh no. You are mistaken. Sending tonnes of 122mm, 130mm 155mm arty shells and tonnes of 81mm and 120mm mortar rounds across the border, killing dozens of soldiers and wounding even more and also destroying/knocking out their tanks is peaceful.

But sending fighter jets to combat other fighter jets, and shooting them down? Absolutely terrible.

 

[Splurgenxs]

Ahhh no. You are mistaken. Sending tonnes of 122mm, 130mm 155mm arty shells and tonnes of 81mm and 120mm mortar rounds across the border, killing dozens of soldiers and wounding even more and also destroying/knocking out their tanks is peaceful.

But sending fighter jets to combat other fighter jets, and shooting them down? Absolutely terrible.

from what the PDFians say , most of it was just bluster and people pleasing measures, and hit only trees.
Which story does one believe.

 

[Tornado23]

from what the PDFians say , most of it was just bluster and people pleasing measures, and hit only trees.
Which story does one believe.

The one with actual proof. The one which shows pictures clearly showing impact in the forest and not chimneys in roofs