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Post was referred to Moderator Chak Bamu he took notice but over all cheap shots by pml-n supporters and too slow or no Action by Mods against noon league supporters.
 
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Post was referred to Moderator Chak Bamu he took notice but over all cheap shots by pml-n supporters and too slow or no Action by Mods against noon league supporters.

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Imran Khan may back down on resignation demand: sources
By Mateen Haider | Atika Rehman

ISLAMABAD/KARACHI: Charged Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) supporters are camped out in Islamabad or racing to Zero Point on the rousing cry of their leader Imran Khan who has said he will accept nothing short of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s resignation.

But sources within the party say Imran may soften his demand and instead present a set of conditions that it expects the government to deliver as a course of action once he reaches the capital.

“We will present a set of conditions to them and if the government is sensible, they will deliver. If they meet nine out of 10 of these demands, we will accept it [instead of the resignation]. If they expect us to back off by meeting say one out of 10, we will not leave,” a party insider requesting anonymity told Dawn.

Another senior PTI official hinted at a "possible negotiation" with the government when Imran arrives in Islamabad.

The development comes amidst news reports that suggest the military brokered an “unwritten” deal between the beleaguered government and hostile PTI.

While the contours of the deal are not clear, a story published in The Nation says the PTI has assured the government that it will not stage a sit-in in Islamabad, withdraw its demand for the immediate resignation of the prime minister and restrict its plea to the verification of election results of some constituencies.

The report also states that the government has assured compliance, offering complete electoral reform and opening constituencies according to the PTI’s demand.

While the PTI official did not confirm the authenticity of the report, he did indicate that the party is looking to the Supreme Court for a solution to the allegations of rigging which form the basis of PTI’s anti-government protests.

He also presented an alternative scenario to the party’s impending Islamabad movement. “Any commitments that happen in the background can change according to the mood of the crowd. A leader feeds of the energy of his supporters, and the workers are gaining strength in numbers.”

“If there is any violence like the kind that broke in Gujranwala earlier today, the system will come to a halt. You cannot control this crowd [if it is provoked]. The country could be on fire.”

The Musharraf element
Officials on condition of anonymity told Dawn that the removal of General (retd) Pervez Musharraf’s name from the Exit Control List was the litmus test in the reported verbal agreement between the government and military.

Sources said that in return for the removal of his name, the demand by protesting parties for Nawaz’s resignation will be called off.

When asked about back channel contact between political and military leaders, Federal Minister General (R) Abdul Qadir Baloch confirmed the meeting between Shahbaz Sharif, Nisar Ali Khan and army chief General Raheel Sharif but expressed ignorance about the reported guarantees offered by the senior PML-N leaders on behalf of the prime minister.

A government source also revealed that Nawaz Sharif is unhappy about “mounting pressure from the establishment to release Musharraf, and also over its support to the PTI”.
 
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Post was referred to Moderator Chak Bamu he took notice but over all cheap shots by pml-n supporters and too slow or no Action by Mods against noon league supporters.
Dude you misused your power of giving negative ratings. People have right to support any political leader and they have right to criticise any political leader or their agenda. You should be neutral and unbiased about giving negative ratings.Why you did not gave -ve rating to PTI supporters who also used same if not worse language for Nawaz. If you can bash PM nawaz and PML(N) then why others cannot criticise your messiah IK ?
 
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10 percent my ***..
more like around 30-50 percent
the educated pakistanis not just villagers who voted for pmln
we will keep imran khan and the fate of our country will be in our hands not the western puppets..
if following pti and standing up for your rights is bianwashed then I'm sure all blacks in america were brainwashed as well when they followed dr martin luther king jr…
Here are some factual numbers that no one on TV ever talks about. It drives me insane how horrendous our media is and how all they do is fuel the fire instead of reporting factual numbers.

PPP received 31% of the vote in 2008 (10.7M)
PML(N) received 33% of the vote in 2013 (14.9M)

If massive rigging occurred last year, why are the results from both years in line with one another? In 2008, PML N & Q received 14.8M votes combined. Is it really that hard to understand or comprehend that PML N retained most of their support from 2008 to 2013 and poached PML Qs and PPPs voters?

I don't get it. Is our awam really that dumb or are we kept dumb on purpose to support hidden agendas.
 
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Imran khan reaches herath and ARY is being taken off AIR bcz Major khalid was talking against nawaz very very openly. Democracy zindabad!!
 
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Dude you misused your power of giving negative ratings. People have right to support any political leader and they have right to criticise any political leader or their agenda. You should be neutral and unbiased about giving negative ratings.Why you did not gave -ve rating to PTI supporters who also used same if not worse language for Nawaz. If you can bash PM nawaz and PML(N) then why others cannot criticise your messiah IK ?

Not interested to discuss anything with noon league followers. Now go take your babbling somewhere you don't need to educate first you people learn some sense and proper language to debate you noon league followers are worst at debating infact you can't debate but use gutter language that has already been conveyed to Mods and Management for the record.

Now do not quote me anymore.
 
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Not interested to discuss anything with noon league followers. Now go take your babbling somewhere you don't need to educate first you people learn some sense and proper language to debate you noon league followers are worst at debating infact you can't debate but use gutter language that has already been conveyed to Mods and Management for the record.
Now do not quote me anymore.
Calm down and give rest to this hatred and rants
 
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10 percent my ***..
more like around 30-50 percent
If you could show me you have 30% vote bank in Pakistan, I'd literally stop coming on to these forums. The LARGEST vote bank used to be PPP and then PMLN. PPP suck*d as* and now they lost their vote bank from places like KPK and Punjab that IK and PMLN gained. Now between ALL parties, you have less than 10% share. In fact, if you know law enough, go read the 60 page decision by the Punjab High Court on this march being unconstitutional. In that there are STATISTICS that tell you you have less than 10% of the vote bank but you all are bullying the rest 90%. International communities put you at 7-8%.
Check your facts before you bullsh*t someone. Additionally, this unconstituitional drama of marches and threats, you'll NEVER get to 30% for the next 5 years. If was VERY possible if your leader didn't act like God's gift to Pakistan and threatened a democratic system.
 
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timing is important why now?

I guess if there was ever good timing its now when PMLN is already under pressured and such news and revelations will only push more pressure on them. If such information is used rightly then it can hit them good.
 
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