PTI leaders can't manage 1 jalsa: Rauf Klasra on fire

[Gazi]

I respect Rauf saheb but sometimes he appear to shoot things that don't make much sense. I do not think the ability to manage a jalsa reflects on someone's ability to run the government. A gathering being managed in Karachi that is effectively controlled by PTI's opponents is very different than running a government where you are in charge. Does someone remember what PM Bhutto did to Ghulam Mustafa Khar's jalsa in Shad Bagh Lahore? Bhutto's men let loose some snakes in that jalsa and albeit of his charismatic personality Khar could do nothing to control the jalsa and left the scene in no time. Many people lost their lives due to stampede. It was the same Khar who in the position of the Chief Minister of Punjab managed Punjab extremely well. In-fact after Nawab Kala Bagh, the best time Punjab saw was during Khar's chief minister-ship.

Karachiite Value Discipline and Decent Event Management. JI is also MQM's Worse Opponents and they have been Setting the Examples of Event Management as well inside the MQM's Stronghold for last 30 Years so this is Useless Excuse that since Karachi is Controlled by PTI's Opponents so we can give Benefit of Doubt to them. Rauf Klasra is quite right that they need to work as they were getting Protections of 3000 Police Officers for that Jalsa Alone while still they couldnt manage to Organize a decent event Proves their INCOMPETENCE rather then Accidental Mishap and that would Hurt them in Election.

 

[syedali73]

Syed Bhai, a political party or a group of a company run by a good administration and it's inspired others to do business or join them, unfortunately PTI massively failed in it and I'm not talking about this current Karachi gathering, Imran Fall from lift was a bad management, Few killed in Multan PTI gathering due to stampede, fighting among ptians is normal in their gathering, on food distribution they fight like Cheel Kawe, they abuse their own female party supporters, they abuse and beat media persons. These are few examples Now how I can trust a party who claiming to run a country with good governance Whose reputation is not only laughable but miserable.

MQM's organization is immaculate but then how she is running Karachi and Urban Sindh? A complete monopoly for almost two decades but what positive changes we see in the lives of those who support MQM? Some in their ranks made tons of money but the remaining are standing exactly where they were before supporting MQM. The quota system is there, businesses are largely in the hands of non-Urdu speakers, crime rate is no better than the remaining Pakistan, the city is no more beautiful then the other cities.

Karachiite Value Discipline and Decent Event Management. JI is also MQM's Worse Opponents and they have been Setting the Examples of Event Management as well inside the MQM's Stronghold for last 30 Years so this is Useless Excuse that since Karachi is Controlled by PTI's Opponents so we can give Benefit of Doubt to them. Rauf Klasra is quite right that they need to work as they were getting Protections of 3000 Police Officers for that Jalsa Alone while still they couldnt manage to Organize a decent event Proves their INCOMPETENCE rather then Accidental Mishap and that would Hurt them in Election.

Knowing that JI's worker could pay the MQM's saboteurs back in the same coin, MQM avoids sabotaging JI's gatherings. Same is not true for PTI that is affectively learning the rules of the game.

 

[Gazi]

he lives in azizaabad he thinks mqm is everywhere in pak ?

If you are referring to me then where did you come up with this Conclusion???Karachi is Lot Bigger then Azizabad or even any other so called City in Pakistan and I am a Karachiite who happens to know Azizabad.

 

[mingle]

Karachiite Value Discipline and Decent Event Management. JI is also MQM's Worse Opponents and they have been Setting the Examples of Event Management as well inside the MQM's Stronghold for last 30 Years so this is Useless Excuse that since Karachi is Controlled by PTI's Opponents so we can give Benefit of Doubt to them. Rauf Klasra is quite right that they need to work as they were getting Protections of 3000 Police Officers for that Jalsa Alone while still they couldnt manage to Organize a decent event Proves their INCOMPETENCE rather then Accidental Mishap and that would Hurt them in Election.

Pti jalsas and rallies happened all over pak not karachi alone the reason police came to theior protection is fight before these rallies when bahi attacked pti camps and stone throwing .but i personely think pti should leave mqm alone they a small ethnic party of a city nothing more they run very well in kpk and theior focus is now karachi reason is karachi need to fix for good .u cant leave ur big city on mercy of bahttas and target killers

If you are referring to me then where did you come up with this Conclusion???Karachi is Lot Bigger then Azizabad or even any other so called City in Pakistan and I am a Karachiite who happens to know Azizabad.

Sure azizaabad is not in karachi ?or it moved somewhere london with bahi ?Sir i just kid i know karachi very well i been there many times

 

[Zarvan]

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The picture you used is one of the criminals in MQM

 

[Gazi]

So what nobody challenge mqm at his own turf ?the myth of thappas is going to bust .i am from punjab ppl dont vote that way u think even not in rural areas ?pti is become biggest party in pak way stronger than N in punjab ppp flush out into tiolet kpk and blochistan .Now pti focus is sindh and karachi let free and fair election held in karachi mqm not gonna win more than half seats reason is very natural no party can rule for ever its natural process .same issue in lahore use to N league fort now pti way stronger it changed use to pppp fort before N league things changes with time .plus demographics of karachi itself more other ethnicity r moving in so last 10 yrs things changed alot in karachi which is good in many sence .

When was the last time we Witness Karachi Followed the same Trend of Voting which is followed in Punjab????In 1965 Punjab supported Ayuib Khan while Karachi Supported Fatima Jinnah, in 1970 Punjab supported Bhutto while Karachi Supported JI and since 1987 Karachi Supported MQM while Punjab supported many others. Another thing is that unlike Punjab Karachi is most Liberal City of Pakistan while Punjab is Relatively Conservative so Voting Patterns of Karachi and Punjab have never Converge and wont converge in the future. Imran Khan type would come and go by Direction of Air when their Electables would shift while those who have Actual Public Strength would retain their Positions. That is what going to Happen to PTI as well if they couldnt able to Strengthen themselves to Grass Root level.

Pti jalsas and rallies happened all over pak not karachi alone the reason police came to theior protection is fight before these rallies when bahi attacked pti camps and stone throwing .but i personely think pti should leave mqm alone they a small ethnic party of a city nothing more they run very well in kpk and theior focus is now karachi reason is karachi need to fix for good .u cant leave ur big city on mercy of bahttas and target killers

PTI has lot of Browny Points to Score by Criticizing MQM due to Prejudice exist in Punjab based on Fabricated perceptions developed in 1990s by Establishment. Without those Point Scoring they would end up Facing Criticism of Returning to Assembly which would demotivate PTIans quite Fast so they are trying to play Clever with dumb Supporters of there's at the expense of Karachi City to which they would try their luck by Joining Hands with MQM.

 

[mingle]

MQM's organization is immaculate but then how she is running Karachi and Urban Sindh? A complete monopoly for almost two decades but what positive changes we see in the lives of those who support MQM? Some in their ranks made tons of money but the remaining are standing exactly where they were before supporting MQM. The quota system is there, businesses are largely in the hands of non-Urdu speakers, crime rate is no better than the remaining Pakistan, the city is no more beautiful then the other cities.

Knowing that JI's worker could pay the MQM's saboteurs back in the same coin, MQM avoids sabotaging JI's gatherings. Same is not true for PTI that is affectively learning the rules of the game.

When was the last time we Witness Karachi Followed the same Trend of Voting which is followed in Punjab????In 1965 Punjab supported Ayuib Khan while Karachi Supported Fatima Jinnah, in 1970 Punjab supported Bhutto while Karachi Supported JI and since 1987 Karachi Supported MQM while Punjab supported many others. Another thing is that unlike Punjab Karachi is most Liberal City of Pakistan while Punjab is Relatively Conservative so Voting Patterns of Karachi and Punjab have never Converge and wont converge in the future. Imran Khan type would come and go by Direction of Air when their Electables would shift while those who have Actual Public Strength would retain their Positions. That is what going to Happen to PTI as well if they couldnt able to Strengthen themselves to Grass Root level.

sir same with Altaf bahi will go jail for his crime playing ethnic card is not norm of punjab mind u .its same punjab who supported ZAB fully who was not punjabi u not getting my point but its ok let put it that way if altaf bahi got jail than what is future of MQM ?His noose id getting tight every coming day how many MQM will come out from this MQM so Altaf is holding it by his killers .The way pti is going they have future reason is simple its not ethnic party its national party Altaf tried to become from mohajir to muthada but failed this election is happening at 90 area where first time he got challenged told ya when real election will happen MQM not gonna win more than half seats currently they holding .

 

[Gazi]

Sure azizaabad is not in karachi ?or it moved somewhere london with bahi ?Sir i just kid i know karachi very well i been there many times

You are just an Occasional Traveler while I belong to this City so if you think you can question my Credibility based on your Judgement then you are wrong.

 

[mingle]

When was the last time we Witness Karachi Followed the same Trend of Voting which is followed in Punjab????In 1965 Punjab supported Ayuib Khan while Karachi Supported Fatima Jinnah, in 1970 Punjab supported Bhutto while Karachi Supported JI and since 1987 Karachi Supported MQM while Punjab supported many others. Another thing is that unlike Punjab Karachi is most Liberal City of Pakistan while Punjab is Relatively Conservative so Voting Patterns of Karachi and Punjab have never Converge and wont converge in the future. Imran Khan type would come and go by Direction of Air when their Electables would shift while those who have Actual Public Strength would retain their Positions. That is what going to Happen to PTI as well if they couldnt able to Strengthen themselves to Grass Root level.

PTI has lot of Browny Points to Score by Criticizing MQM due to Prejudice exist in Punjab based on Fabricated perceptions developed in 1990s by Establishment. Without those Point Scoring they would end up Facing Criticism of Returning to Assembly which would demotivate PTIans quite Fast so they are trying to play Clever with dumb Supporters of there's at the expense of Karachi City to which they would try their luck by Joining Hands with MQM.

well all these browney points r before PTI as a political party but now times r changing ppl aware more more educated every coming day MQM exposing by itself .plus what ever punjabi ppl have issue but i can tell u one thing u can only blame to urself it was Altaf who started ethnic politics otherwise punjab ppl adore ZAB they can adore anybody who is from not punjab .

 

[Gazi]

sir same with Altaf bahi will go jail for his crime playing ethnic card is not norm of punjab mind u .its same punjab who supported ZAB fully who was not punjabi u not getting my point but its ok let put it that way if altaf bahi got jail than what is future of MQM ?His noose id getting tight every coming day how many MQM will come out from this MQM so Altaf is holding it by his killers .The way pti is going they have future reason is simple its not ethnic party its national party Altaf tried to become from mohajir to muthada but failed this election is happening at 90 area where first time he got challenged told ya when real election will happen MQM not gonna win more than half seats currently they holding .

Punjab has no worries as all the Govt. that is formed in Central actually win Majority from Punjab but Karachi on the other Hand is resilient and Resistant city in terms of Politics and they dont Accept Dictations from anybody like Ayub Khan couldnt able to influence Karachi with all his State Machinery and same goes for Bhutto towards Jamat and MQM is a living Proof of Showing Resistance against Dictations anyways. MQM has been able to gain lot of grounds among non Urdu Speaking Karachiite especially Punjabis in Karachi so that Mutaheda thing doesnt just failed as you think but its not that successful either. As long as they can Strengthen themselves in Karachi they cant Expand so that is what they have been focusing upon for last 30 years and they have proved their Hold at the times when Parties Like PTI would have Completely Seized to Exist.

well all these browney points r before PTI as a political party but now times r changing ppl aware more more educated every coming day MQM exposing by itself .plus what ever punjabi ppl have issue but i can tell u one thing u can only blame to urself it was Altaf who started ethnic politics otherwise punjab ppl adore ZAB they can adore anybody who is from not punjab .

Now people are more and more educated enough to understand the Politics of PTI as well which only Talks, Talks and only Talks and doesnt walk the talks. Times have not being Changed here ZAB Charisma Earned him success in Punjab despite of PATHETIC OUTLOOK and now IK is trying his luck in a similar Fashion but in the end he would only Prove to be Disappointment as all so called National Parties have been in Pakistan for last 40 years.

 

[batmannow]

MQM days are over they win or loose there entire leadership including those sitting in assembly will be in Jail really soon

Sure that's why it is in the elections , dear tora bora boy ?
So , can you tell me , when MQM & its leadership is going to jail , in 7 days , in 7 weeks, in.7 months , in 7 years ?
Pick up a dead line , & look what happens , they will be there either you are not here?lolzzz
Your kind of torabora boys are the reasons why PTI can't arrange a decent jalsa , cause most of the cave creatures they live on.hill tops offered by mullhas life fazalluahaa ?
Come down to civilized world ,& stop your dirty speculations ?

 

[Zarvan]

Sure that's why it is in the elections , dear tora bora boy ?
So , can you tell me , when MQM & its leadership is going to jail , in 7 days , in 7 weeks, in.7 months , in 7 years ?
Pick up a dead line , & look what happens , they will be there either you are not here?lolzzz
Your kind of torabora boys are the reasons why PTI can't arrange a decent jalsa , cause most of the cave creatures they live on.hill tops offered by mullhas life fazalluahaa ?
Come down to civilized world ,& stop your dirty speculations ?

Don't worry you will see it soon most of your MQM terrorists also never thought before that nine zero can be raided that is why all the illegal weapons and target killers were hiding there but raid took place and they were arrested from there and for your information Nawaz in last trip was told that soon Rangers will start picking up MQM main leaders so be ready and you can laugh as much as you can because soon Rangers will not even allow MQM to cry there reign of terror and bhatta and mass murder is about to end

 

[batmannow]

Where u will fit boori party ?get life guy just leave karachi no body knows U .let this trend to continue it will Azizaabab party only with a leader in London jail .

Toddler,
Look at the history of Karachi , how many wins in how many elections get a reality check , which is MQM not going any where , but these off shoots of MULLHA ABAD parties like PTI & JI has no future in Karachi nor in Pakistan , as its resignations from NA is in courts , defently they are going to beg their survival in the parliament from PMLN &PPP?
That's why whole tusunami was listening shamelessly to khwaja asif ,s reality blasts in NA non of PTI MNAs spell a single word to defend themslves ?
Mingling made them pics of shameless cowards who came to beg the rescue from the same parliament , which they were accusing for everything ?

Don't worry you will see it soon most of your MQM terrorists also never thought before that nine zero can be raided that is why all the illegal weapons and target killers were hiding there but raid took place and they were arrested from there and for your information Nawaz in last trip was told that soon Rangers will start picking up MQM main leaders so be ready and you can laugh as much as you can because soon Rangers will not even allow MQM to cry there reign of terror and bhatta and mass murder is about to end

So that means next Sunday ?
If not you will kill yourself right ?
Always remember Karachi is not your torabora fazalllulha ,s paradise , it's a city of patriots who hates, TTp & their supporters like PTI & JI .

 

[Zarvan]

Toddler,
Look at the history of Karachi , how many wins in how many elections get a reality check , which is MQM not going any where , but these off shoots of MULLHA ABAD parties like PTI & JI has no future in Karachi nor in Pakistan , as its resignations from NA is in courts , defently they are going to beg their survival in the parliament from PMLN &PPP?
That's why whole tusunami was listening shamelessly to khwaja asif ,s reality blasts in NA non of PTI MNAs spell a single word to defend themslves ?
Mingling made them pics of shameless cowards who came to beg the rescue from the same parliament , which they were accusing for everything ?


So that means next Sunday ?
If not you will kill yourself right ?

Really soon just wait and watch soon MQM main leaders will be picked up until than keep laughing because entire MQM will soon cry and cry a lot but Rangers are in no mood to show any mercy to target killers and those on whose orders target killing takes place and Bhatta is collected

 

[Musafir117]

The picture you used is one of the criminals in MQM

Arrest him