PSX reclaims Asian Tiger status: report

[Arsalan]

To change the policy, the "premier institution" needs to change its mindset which has been driving us into a corner again and again. Or at least learn from their time trusted friend I.e. China whose largest trading partner is Japan, a nation who inflicted inhuman atrocities to such scale that Chinese havent yet forgotten.

So you are suggesting that this too is done by that "premier institution" ?
What is that "democratic" government for? corruption alone? If so then well they are mighty well at there job! Impressive!

As said, only an incompetent and spineless government can make such excuses. Else if they have got all the support the claims to have there is nothing stopping them from changing the attitudes. Perhaps take a lesson from all time trusted friend in Turkey.

 

[sady]

We as a nation are weak, whelpers and squealers. We are grateful if our ruler rape us and then give us a morsel to chew on.
The only achievement of a Gov that they didn't plunder like their predecessors and a nation rejoicing on performance not even mediocre is a perfect example of us squealers. Education, health, agriculture, tourism, energy, tax base and micro economics? Those who are jumping up and down should go visit a gov hospital. I don't ask in a far flung area just go to Mayo in Lahore. Most of the achievements this gov boasts about are those they reluctantly moved along. Zarb e Azab, Karachi op etc.

They single handedly made CPEC controversial. Impotent response to India and Afghanistan at every turn. The worst part is a lot could have been done simply by placing good efficient people in important posts and strengthening of institutions. Gov offices are in a state of perpetual inefficiency, initiative dearth, nepotism and corruption. The fear of damaging electorate stops the gov from taxing the big fish, traders and businessmen. Creating dubious media efforts spearheaded by 'non elected' to take on armed forces in a domestic psy ops war.

Having said that , yes this gov is a lot better than its predecessor but not good enough. It is however a democratically elected gov and must complete the term and be answerable to their electorate.

 

[SBD-3]

So you are suggesting that this too is done by that "premier institution" ?
What is that "democratic" government for? corruption alone? If so then well they are mighty well at there job! Impressive!

As said, only an incompetent and spineless government can make such excuses. Else if they have got all the support the claims to have there is nothing stopping them from changing the attitudes. Perhaps take a lesson from all time trusted friend in Turkey.

Democratic government is for being manhandled in one way or another. Who sabotaged Iranian visit. Who dragged Aghan govt back to Indian ambit. So probably next time come back with structured rather than emotional arguments.

 

[Arsalan]

Democratic government is for being manhandled in one way or another. Who sabotaged Iranian visit. Who dragged Aghan govt back to Indian ambit. So probably next time come back with structured rather than emotional arguments.

So what was this spineless government which claims the supports of millions of voters and the general public doing when that "who" was supposedly conspiring against it. Again, for the third time, only a spineless an impotent government will make such excuses. I expect my government to protect the national interest from any foreign enemies, now if it is not able to control its own institutes then God knows what they will do in time of a crisis. Go to India and talk trash about there own institutes?

Government is desperate to play that mazloomiat and siyasi shaheed card again because just like in the past they are filing the nation once more. Only this time that "who" is not taking the bait and neither are the public falling for it. It is just as simple as that whether one chooses to accept and admit this fact or not. Lame excuses like hmain kaam ni krny dea are not working anymore!

 

[SBD-3]

So what was this spineless government which claims the supports of millions of voters and the general public doing when that "who" was supposedly conspiring against it. Again, for the third time, only a spineless an impotent government will make such excuses. I expect my government to protect the national interest from any foreign enemies, now if it is not able to control its own institutes then God knows what they will do in time of a crisis. Go to India and talk trash about there own institutes?

Government is desperate to play that mazloomiat and siyasi shaheed card again because just like in the past they are filing the nation once more. Only this time that "who" is not taking the bait and neither are the public falling for it. It is just as simple as that whether one chooses to accept and admit this fact or not. Lame excuses like hmain kaam ni krny dea are not working anymore!

http://www.dawn.com/news/1270717/

 

[Arsalan]

http://www.dawn.com/news/1270717/

Yeah have been through that already,, in fact there is thread about it as well. But whats the point? The fact remains that the government is either guilty of not doing anything or it is incompetent and is not able to do anything. This is what can be deduced from this whole argument we were having!

On a side note, i do not think it is like this and the only problem is the lack of direction and the will. Things can and will improve if those at the helm of affairs want them to.

 

[SBD-3]

Yeah have been through that already,, in fact there is thread about it as well. But whats the point? The fact remains that the government is either guilty of not doing anything or it is incompetent and is not able to do anything. This is what can be deduced from this whole argument we were having!

On a side note, i do not think it is like this and the only problem is the lack of direction and the will. Things can and will improve if those at the helm of affairs want them to.

If you're deducing the same thing as you've been doing above, then you haven't read the news properly so as to whose been the driver of this policy and who has to do the firefighting.

 

[Arsalan]

If you're deducing the same thing as you've been doing above, then you haven't read the news properly so as to whose been the driver of this policy and who has to do the firefighting.

I have read the news properly it is just the thing that what will make this news a better fact than all those crying and accusations we always hear from this party and its supporters. The fact remains that army is an institute UNDER the government and if government is not able to control it it is there own incompetence!
You cannot blame the ship if the captain runs it aground while he was drunk!

 

[SBD-3]

I have read the news properly it is just the thing that what will make this news a better fact than all those crying and accusations we always hear from this party and its supporters. The fact remains that army is an institute UNDER the government and if government is not able to control it it is there own incompetence!
You cannot blame the ship if the captain runs it aground while he was drunk!

I asked for one line answer, that's all. Who is driving the foreign policy in the above case (just one of the many others) and who is busy in doing the fire fighting ? Is that too much to answer?
"Army is an institute under the government"
So should I take it as the answer for so as to who is driving the foreign policy w.r.t US

 

[Arsalan]

I asked for one line answer, that's all. Who is driving the foreign policy in the above case (just one of the many others) and who is busy in doing the fire fighting ? Is that too much to answer?
"Army is an institute under the government"

Well i guess i replied with the same tone,, is it all about blaming? Are you suggesting that the government is incompetent to run all its offices? First it was foreign policy, then internal security and now your smilies suggest that you think that army too is not under them. So what exactly is the government doing? Building roads in Pakistan and accounts off-shore? Dont you think the FWO and a bunch of thugs will do a better job for us then? I don't think it is difficult to answer question, IF THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT ABLE TO CONTROL ANY OF THIS THEN WHAT GOOD ARE THEY?? Think about it and you may realize what i am talking about. Even on the recent Kashmir trouble it was army speaking up. So the government is not even able to do that now?

 

[The Sandman]

I asked for one line answer, that's all. Who is driving the foreign policy in the above case (just one of the many others) and who is busy in doing the fire fighting ? Is that too much to answer?
"Army is an institute under the government"
So should I take it as the answer for so as to who is driving the foreign policy w.r.t US

Why N.S is not appointing a foreign minister?

 

[Arsalan]

Why N.S is not appointing a foreign minister?

Because army do not allow him,
Same is the case with internal security,
Views on Kashmir issue,
Diplomacy and foreign relations and quite a few other things.

The right question would be "Then what they hell are the doing? OR what the hell can they actually do?" Because if they cannot do nothing what are they for? Accumulating wealth?

 

[The Sandman]

Accumulating wealth?

I think yes

 

[DJ_Viper]

How well does a stock market indicate how the overall economy is doing?
@shah1398

That's absolutely true. No one puts billions from overseas, and from within into a stock market. The stock markets are run on one thing only: the investor's confidence. Take an example of the US stock market just yesterday. Turkish coupe (and Brexit before) brought down the market for a few days as investors in the US were scared of what's next to follow from their global investments standpoint. Even if the US is many thousands of miles away and has a super robust economy better than everyone else, and literally has released a consumer spending report yesterday morning showing growth in consumer spending (one of the strongest indicators of how the US economy is doing). But despite all that, an incident in Turkey sent jitters across Atlantic.

So you can be selling the best thing for a cheaper price, if the investors are scared to invest, you can have all that sitting in without anyone putting a dollar in. How investors confidence is created or restored? By showing growth within the economy, consumer spending rising, overall economy in an upwards trajectory and a history of profits......all these build up investors confidence and is a sign of growing economy.

 

[Arsalan]

I think yes

Frankly,, it is not what you, me or he thinks!!
It is what is actually happening