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Protests erupt as VHP’s Ram Rajya rath yatra enters Tamil Nadu

Meanwhile the Rath Yatra in Tamil Nadu is UnStoppable. :P

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The rath enters Kanyakumari district and is received for a stretch close to 18 km by enthusiastic crowds


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Tambrahmins appropriators not the "care takers of your Tamil heritage" as o suggest e.g refer to evolution of Tamil Sadhir attam into Indic Hundu Bharata Natyam

Only the 3 groups were responsible for preserving Tamil heritage - dance, music and hymns (panns) ,without expecting returns - devadasis (isai vellalars) , Pillais, Othuvars

TamBrahmins were latter entrants to the field of dance (its not their profession) appropriated it and convert it into an Indic Hindu enterprise for their own posterity and prosperity.

Veda provide the moral and ethical foundation for learning Ayurveda, arthashastra, shilpa shastra, Yudha shastra, Nitya shastra, etc.
Brahmins themselves lived on charity and constituted 1% of the population, so you should be asking these questions to the ruling community and the Business community of Tamil andu :cheesy:

Are you implying the West/Far East (or entire world minus Bharat) lacked moral and ethical foundation ?

You extolled the gurukula education system, so I posed the question - what was its contribution to uplift the literacy of the down trodden Tamils.

1 % brahmins living on charity, have 99 % domination in politics and the British bureaucracy.

I had posted earlier a link on 1% Brahmin Rajaji, Tamilnadu's CM racist education policy. .

Kula Kalvi Thittam (Hereditary Education Policy), was an abortive attempt at education reform introduced by the Indian National Congress Government of the Madras State, led by C. Rajagopalachari (Rajaji) in 1953. The scheme proposed the introduction of two shifts or sessions in elementary schools. In one session regular teaching would be done and during the second session, the students would be sent home to learn the occupations of their parents. It became controversial and was accused of being a casteist scheme to perpetuate the caste hierarchy as Hindu Professions were caste based

NDTV is the most anti BJP channel and anti Hindu channel you can find :lol: ....... as usual, you are in denial.

for verification, where is the Tamilnadu media evidence ? Thank you

good work TN Police - Saffron terror has many faces

monkeys will never abide by the rules of the land
Ram Rajya Ratha Yatra: Police lodge two more cases in Kanyakumari

KANYAKUMARI: Two more cases have been registered against the persons associated with various Hindu outfits for accompanying the 'Ram Rajya Ratha Yatra' in Tamil Nadu.

“The cases were registered by the Kottar and Thuckalay Police Stations for unlawful assembly and organising a procession and public meeting despite denial of permission by the police,” Superintendent of Police (SP) of Kanyakumari District, N Shreenath, told TOI on Saturday.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOICitiesNews
 
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Tambrahmins appropriators not the "care takers of your Tamil heritage" as o suggest e.g refer to evolution of Tamil Sadhir attam into Indic Hundu Bharata Natyam

Only the 3 groups were responsible for preserving Tamil heritage - dance, music and hymns (panns) ,without expecting returns - devadasis (isai vellalars) , Pillais, Othuvars

TamBrahmins were latter entrants to the field of dance (its not their profession) appropriated it and convert it into an Indic Hindu enterprise for their own posterity and prosperity.

The only problem with your story is that the BharatNatyam comes from the Natya Shastra written by BHARAT Muni. :D

Now where do you think that name came from ? :P ...... worse, that book is written in SANSKRIT :lol:

If only some Tamilian had written it in Tamil for you to boast about it.

Are you implying the West/Far East (or entire world minus Bharat) lacked moral and ethical foundation ?

Definitely. Bharat is the cradle of world civilization. From china to Europe.

You extolled the gurukula education system, so I posed the question - what was its contribution to uplift the literacy of the down trodden Tamils.

1 % brahmins living on charity, have 99 % domination in politics and the British bureaucracy.

I had posted earlier a link on 1% Brahmin Rajaji, Tamilnadu's CM racist education policy. .

Kula Kalvi Thittam (Hereditary Education Policy), was an abortive attempt at education reform introduced by the Indian National Congress Government of the Madras State, led by C. Rajagopalachari (Rajaji) in 1953. The scheme proposed the introduction of two shifts or sessions in elementary schools. In one session regular teaching would be done and during the second session, the students would be sent home to learn the occupations of their parents. It became controversial and was accused of being a casteist scheme to perpetuate the caste hierarchy as Hindu Professions were caste based

And I have already answered it by saying that the british had been ruling TN for the last 200 years, so how does the burden of uplifting the "down trodden tamil" become the responsibility of the Hindu Brahmins ?

Why don't you ask that question to the church ? They certainly had enough land (granted by the british) to st up sufficient schools and funding that could do the same.

Children learning the trade of their parents is not a bad thing, as long as other avenues of learning new trade is open to them. I fail to see the problem.

for verification, where is the Tamilnadu media evidence ? Thank you

good work TN Police - Saffron terror has many faces

monkeys will never abide by the rules of the land
Ram Rajya Ratha Yatra: Police lodge two more cases in Kanyakumari

KANYAKUMARI: Two more cases have been registered against the persons associated with various Hindu outfits for accompanying the 'Ram Rajya Ratha Yatra' in Tamil Nadu.

“The cases were registered by the Kottar and Thuckalay Police Stations for unlawful assembly and organising a procession and public meeting despite denial of permission by the police,” Superintendent of Police (SP) of Kanyakumari District, N Shreenath, told TOI on Saturday.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOICitiesNews


The more you oppress the Hindus, the stronger we will get. :devil:

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The only problem with your story is that the BharatNatyam comes from the Natya Shastra written by BHARAT Muni. :D

Nataraja must be laughing of loud seeing the stupidity of brain washed sanghis.

Its not Bharat Muni its Bharata muni another fictitious Aryan - Brahmanist fabricated personality.

The dance form was first reveal to Tamils in Chidambaram by Tamil ancestor Sivan , and not to the Aryans of the cow belt plains.

Now where do you think that name came from ? :P ...... worse, that book is written in SANSKRIT :lol:

If only some Tamilian had written it in Tamil for you to boast about it.

So what if its in Sanskrit when the Aryan Brahmins despised dance and made it a degraded art to be performed by Devadasis.


Definitely. Bharat is the cradle of world civilization. From china to Europe.

you are entitled to the grandiose claim

And I have already answered it by saying that the british had been ruling TN for the last 200 years, so how does the burden of uplifting the "down trodden tamil" become the responsibility of the Hindu Brahmins ?

Why don't you ask that question to the church ? They certainly had enough land (granted by the british) to st up sufficient schools and funding that could do the same.

obviously. it was the British who uplifted the down trodden Tamil through their mass education system.

TAMIL NADU
Christian missionaries' contribution to education lauded
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-pape...ution-to-education-lauded/article3036984.ece#!

The Brahmins opposed education movement among Dalits which they had denied for years. Phule appreciated Christian missionaries for their noble work in school education.
http://www.aktun.com/SAVE_INTL_RESOURCE/save-intl_press_dalit_women_tamilnadu.html


Children learning the trade of their parents is not a bad thing, as long as other avenues of learning new trade is open to them. I fail to see the problem.

you mean like learning manual scavenging from their parent ?

The more you oppress the Hindus, the stronger we will get. :devil:

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shes a bigger super star than the Hindu god

Btw, its just a photo taking opportunity for selfies and memorabilia , to them its another fun fare

The more you oppress the Hindus, the stronger we will get. :devil:

I concur , keep up the good work

 
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Nataraja must be laughing of loud seeing the stupidity of brain washed sanghis.

Its not Bharat Muni its Bharata muni another fictitious Aryan - Brahmanist fabricated personality.

The dance form was first reveal to Tamils in Chidambaram by Tamil ancestor Sivan , and not to the Aryans of the cow belt plains.

So what if its in Sanskrit when the Aryan Brahmins despised dance and made it a degraded art to be performed by Devadasis.


LOL.... if it was revealed to Tamilians, why was it not written in Tamils ?

....here let me quotes parts from the Natya shashtra written in Sanskrit :D

धर्म्यमर्थ्यं यशस्यं च सोपदेश्यं ससङ्ग्रहम् ।
भविष्यतश्च लोकस्य सर्वकर्मानुदर्शकम् ॥
“It will contain good counsel for people in their pursuits of dharma, material needs, and fame.
It will guide the world in the future too in all their endeavors.”

सर्वशास्त्रार्थसंपन्नं सर्वशिल्पप्रवर्तकम् ।
नाट्याख्यं पञ्चमवेदं सेतिहासं करोम्यहम् ॥
“It will contain the essence of all the sastra-s and will be the foundation for all arts.
I shall create Naṭyaveda, the fifth Veda along with the itihasas.” (itihasa - ramayana / Mahabharata)

एवं सङ्कल्प्य भगवान् सर्ववेदाननुस्मरन् ।
नाट्यवेदं ततश्चक्रे चतुर्वेदाङ्गसम्भवम् ॥
Having taken a decision thus, the deity recalled all the Vedas and created the Naṭyaveda, which is born out of the four Vedas

जग्राह पाठ्यमृग्वेदात्सामभ्यो गीतमेव च।
यजुर्वेदादभिनयान् रसानाथर्वणादपि ॥
He took the lyrics (पाठ्य) from the Ṛgveda, the music (गीत) from the Samaveda, the language of gestures (अभिनय) from the Yajurveda and the aesthetic experience (रस) from Atharvaveda

वेदोपवेदैः सम्बद्धो नाट्यवेदो महात्मना ।
एवं भगवता सृष्टो ब्रह्मणा सर्ववेदिना ॥
Natyaveda, which is closely linked to the Vedas and the Upavedas was thus created by the all-knowing Brahma, the omniscient

obviously. it was the British who uplifted the down trodden Tamil through their mass education system.

TAMIL NADU
Christian missionaries' contribution to education lauded
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-pape...ution-to-education-lauded/article3036984.ece#!

http://www.aktun.com/SAVE_INTL_RESOURCE/save-intl_press_dalit_women_tamilnadu.html

LOL...... is that why India had 12% literacy rate during that time ? One of the lowest in the world.


you mean like learning manual scavenging from their parent ?

Is that what your parents did ?
 
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LOL.... if it was revealed to Tamilians, why was it not written in Tamils ?

....here let me quotes parts from the Natya shashtra written in Sanskrit :D

धर्म्यमर्थ्यं यशस्यं च सोपदेश्यं ससङ्ग्रहम् ।
भविष्यतश्च लोकस्य सर्वकर्मानुदर्शकम् ॥
“It will contain good counsel for people in their pursuits of dharma, material needs, and fame.
It will guide the world in the future too in all their endeavors.”

सर्वशास्त्रार्थसंपन्नं सर्वशिल्पप्रवर्तकम् ।
नाट्याख्यं पञ्चमवेदं सेतिहासं करोम्यहम् ॥
“It will contain the essence of all the sastra-s and will be the foundation for all arts.
I shall create Naṭyaveda, the fifth Veda along with the itihasas.” (itihasa - ramayana / Mahabharata)

एवं सङ्कल्प्य भगवान् सर्ववेदाननुस्मरन् ।
नाट्यवेदं ततश्चक्रे चतुर्वेदाङ्गसम्भवम् ॥
Having taken a decision thus, the deity recalled all the Vedas and created the Naṭyaveda, which is born out of the four Vedas

जग्राह पाठ्यमृग्वेदात्सामभ्यो गीतमेव च।
यजुर्वेदादभिनयान् रसानाथर्वणादपि ॥
He took the lyrics (पाठ्य) from the Ṛgveda, the music (गीत) from the Samaveda, the language of gestures (अभिनय) from the Yajurveda and the aesthetic experience (रस) from Atharvaveda

वेदोपवेदैः सम्बद्धो नाट्यवेदो महात्मना ।
एवं भगवता सृष्टो ब्रह्मणा सर्ववेदिना ॥
Natyaveda, which is closely linked to the Vedas and the Upavedas was thus created by the all-knowing Brahma, the omniscient

you can create 5th, 6th ... 100 of Vedas, its neither binding or authoritative over Tamils (check with Kannadiga Lingayats) .

Its obvious which came 1st Tamil Dance Treatise or plagiarized work - Natya shastra

New linguistic analysis finds Dravidian language family is approximately 4,500 years old
https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-linguistic-analysis-dravidian-language-family.html#jCp

100s of Ram Ratha , inaccessibly vedas isnt going to change ground reality - conversion to Islam due to Hindu caste discrimination

recent (yesterday) development in Tamilnadu, 200 villages to convert to Islam


LOL...... is that why India had 12% literacy rate during that time ? One of the lowest in the world.

before British colonisation, it was 1 %, restricted to Brahmins living on 'charity'

Reminder, current situation , destruction of Tamilnadu education by Hindis by imposing NEET, Sanksrit, Hindi. Erasing native language is the 1st step to cultural genocide. Even if it was 12 % the British promoted both English and the vernacular languages. Thats the difference between Hindi and English imperialists.

the prize Tamilnadu has to pay for living under Hindi imperialism


Is that what your parents did ?

why is that our concern ? Hindi'an leeches and Brahmin free loaders either live off on others hard work or on charity

List of Scandals in India by Brahmins and Banias
http://velivada.com/2017/07/09/list-scandals-india-brahmins-banias/
 
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you can create 5th, 6th ... 100 of Vedas, its neither binding or authoritative over Tamils (check with Kannadiga Lingayats) .

Its obvious which came 1st Tamil Dance Treatise or plagiarized work - Natya shastra

New linguistic analysis finds Dravidian language family is approximately 4,500 years old
https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-linguistic-analysis-dravidian-language-family.html#jCp

100s of Ram Ratha , inaccessibly vedas isnt going to change ground reality - conversion to Islam due to Hindu caste discrimination

recent (yesterday) development in Tamilnadu, 200 villages to convert to Islam

LOL...... Star mapping has found Vedas to be over 9,000 years old :lol: ,

After all your oldest RIshi Agastya wrote the Vedas's too, and he then traveled south to educate you bunch.

That conversion to islam is a political stunt, unlike the real conversions to xtianity that is going on.

before British colonisation, it was 1 %, restricted to Brahmins living on 'charity'

Reminder, current situation , destruction of Tamilnadu education by Hindis by imposing NEET, Sanksrit, Hindi. Erasing native language is the 1st step to cultural genocide. Even if it was 12 % the British promoted both English and the vernacular languages. Thats the difference between Hindi and English imperialists.

the prize Tamilnadu has to pay for living under Hindi imperialism


Ya Right, India which had 28% of Global GDP had only 1% literacy :lol:

What kind of a Moron believes such nonsense ?

Also , English Education Act 1835 was especially brought in to destroy local languages and promote english in India.

why is that our concern ? Hindi'an leeches and Brahmin free loaders either live off on others hard work or on charity

List of Scandals in India by Brahmins and Banias
http://velivada.com/2017/07/09/list-scandals-india-brahmins-banias/

You seem reluctant to learn your parents job :lol:

Funny thing for a tamil to say after they paid millions of $ to a white man in the US harvard to teach tamil to tamilians.
 
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LOL...... Star mapping has found Vedas to be over 9,000 years old :lol: ,

After all your oldest RIshi Agastya wrote the Vedas's too, and he then traveled south to educate you bunch.

That conversion to islam is a political stunt, unlike the real conversions to xtianity that is going on.

900 yrs why not back date to 900 million yrs !

It was Agasthiya who had to be educated
  • He is the direct disciple of lord Subramanya / Murugan and acquired knowledge in the realm of Siddha science from Lord Shiva also.
  • He learnt Tamil and Siddha medicine in Pothigai hills from lord Murugan, who is the forerunner of Tamil Siddha Medicine System.
  • He became the head of Tamil Sangam and led the Sangam for many centuries.
http://www.tknsiddha.com/medicine/agathiyar-siddhar/

Ya Right, India which had 28% of Global GDP had only 1% literacy :lol:
What kind of a Moron believes such nonsense ?
You seem reluctant to learn your parents job :lol:
Funny thing for a tamil to say after they paid millions of $ to a white man in the US harvard to teach tamil to tamilians.

1) vedic genius - GDP = Literacy

2) then why a Sanskrit Chair in Harvard , where are all the vedic scientists /scholars in Hindiá ?

another protest brewing against India in small town .. happy week end folks !!

 
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900 yrs why not back date to 900 million yrs !

It was Agasthiya who had to be educated
  • He is the direct disciple of lord Subramanya / Murugan and acquired knowledge in the realm of Siddha science from Lord Shiva also.
  • He learnt Tamil and Siddha medicine in Pothigai hills from lord Murugan, who is the forerunner of Tamil Siddha Medicine System.
  • He became the head of Tamil Sangam and led the Sangam for many centuries.
http://www.tknsiddha.com/medicine/agathiyar-siddhar/

So your own source says that Agastya was a North Indian who invented tamil grammar :lol:

LOL. Funny how a north Indian became head of Tamil sangam.

1) vedic genius - GDP = Literacy

2) then why a Sanskrit Chair in Harvard , where are all the vedic scientists /scholars in Hindiá ?

another protest brewing against India in small town .. happy week end folks !!


Unlike the tamils, we did not have to pay harvard to have a chair, THAT is the difference.
 
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So your own source says that Agastya was a North Indian who invented tamil grammar :lol:

LOL. Funny how a north Indian became head of Tamil sangam.

he never headed Tamil sangam - held in Pandyan courts, presided (headed) by Siva - 1st Sangam, Murugan - 2nd sangam,

N Indian ?? According to Hindu puranas/legends he is from Mt Kailash , makes him a Tibetan /Chinese , explains why his disciples had close links with China

Tamils no freeloaders, and whose tax money will be used to make the useless Hindi an UN official language @ 400 cores ?
 
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he never headed Tamil sangam - held in Pandyan courts, presided (headed) by Siva - 1st Sangam, Murugan - 2nd sangam,

N Indian ?? According to Hindu puranas/legends he is from Mt Kailash , makes him a Tibetan /Chinese , explains why his disciples had close links with China

LOL...no purans claim Agastya is from Mt. Kailash. What have you been smoking ? :lol:

Your own Siddha tradition says that Agastya was born in GUJARAT. His father was Bhargava (Savithru - one of the 14 Adithyas) a well learned mand and his mother Indumathi was from Punjab, from the banks of the Indus River. They were both devotees of the Pasupatha order of the sage Rishabha Muni.

His birth is recorded as 4573 years BEFORE Kali Yuga. Kali Yuga started in 3102 BCE. Which means Agastya Muni was born 7675 BCE or more than 9,000 years ago.

This also incidentally dates the Vedas to over 9,000 years. :P

Sri Ramchandra ji met Agastya Muni near Panchavati, which is in Maharasthtra. So, its clear that after his birth in Gujarat he moved and settled in Maharashtra before heading for Tamil Nadu and living their.

It was Agastya who taught Sri. Ramchandra ji the "Aditya Hrudayam Stotram".

 
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LOL...no purans claim Agastya is from Mt. Kailash. What have you been smoking ? :lol:

Your own Siddha tradition says that Agastya was born in GUJARAT. His father was Bhargava (Savithru - one of the 14 Adithyas) a well learned mand and his mother Indumathi was from Punjab, from the banks of the Indus River. They were both devotees of the Pasupatha order of the sage Rishabha Muni.

from puranas

Maharishi Agastya was born as a result of the spilling of seeds in a pot by the gods. When they beheld the lovely apsara Urvashi, the celestial damsel, first Mitr and then Varun (sea-god) deposited their seed in a pot. Agastya was generated from the combination of the two deposits hence he was termed as a son of Mitravarun. (aka kumba sambava)

https://www.startshining.com/agastya/

So from Ayodhya ram took a detour to Maharashtra ?

Book V- PANCHAVATI (On the Banks of the Godavari)
THE wanderings of Rama in the Deccan, his meeting with Saint Agastya, and his residence on the banks of the Godavari river, are narrated in this Book
 
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from puranas

Maharishi Agastya was born as a result of the spilling of seeds in a pot by the gods. When they beheld the lovely apsara Urvashi, the celestial damsel, first Mitr and then Varun (sea-god) deposited their seed in a pot. Agastya was generated from the combination of the two deposits hence he was termed as a son of Mitravarun. (aka kumba sambava)

https://www.startshining.com/agastya/

So from Ayodhya ram took a detour to Maharashtra ?

Book V- PANCHAVATI (On the Banks of the Godavari)
THE wanderings of Rama in the Deccan, his meeting with Saint Agastya, and his residence on the banks of the Godavari river, are narrated in this Book

So now you sudden disregard the Tamil Siddha and want to follow the Purans ? :cheesy:

This is the map of Sr. Ramj chandraji travel in 14 years. It was made on the basis of locations mentioned in the Ramayana.

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Godavari river stars in Maharasthra, and Panchavati exist right on the banks of the Godavari river.

Today Panchavati is a tourist town on the banks of the Godavair.
 
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So now you sudden disregard the Tamil Siddha and want to follow the Purans ? :cheesy:

This is the map of Sr. Ramj chandraji travel in 14 years. It was made on the basis of locations mentioned in the Ramayana.

Godavari river stars in Maharasthra, and Panchavati exist right on the banks of the Godavari river.

Today Panchavati is a tourist town on the banks of the Godavair.

1) Tamil sources accept the puranic version of Agathiya's birth with minor variation
2) There was no Gujarati before 700 BCE
3) Ram's ancestors were Tamil Pandyans
4) Tamils Pandyas settled in the western coast
5) Agathiya owes his contribution to Tamils (siddha medicine, martial arts, grammar) from Murugan,

The ram cult was popularised in North by Ramananda (and his disciples Tulasi das, Kabir das etc) who belongs to the Tamil Vaisnava sect (Sri Vaisnvism of the Tamil alvars).

If not for Tamils , there wont be a ram sect for northies, yet have the audacity to troll Agathiya as N Indian, Gujarati

Indians contribution to Tamil culture (i.e religion, language,) is zilch, Tamils have nothing to do with Indians. The Ram Ratha yatra is a Hindutva strategy to impose the ram cult on Tamils.

this is Northi Ram cultist's culture

 
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I was not aware that there is a different of religion/faith also between South and North India. Language, ethnic and now religious fault lines? What has British done to sub-continent?
Around 550 states, which were merged forcefully to create an artificial country India?
How long will it go on?
 
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