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Promoting anti-science via textbooks

PERVEZ HOODBHOY

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The writer teaches physics and mathematics in Lahore and Islamabad.


A BIOLOGY textbook is normally expected to teach biology as science, meaning a scientifically based study of the structure, growth and origin of living things. But what if such a book instead says science must follow ideology and loudly denounces the core principles of biology, condemning these as wrong and irrational?

Published in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa last year, a biology textbook declares that “The theory of evolution, as proposed by Charles Darwin in the 19th century, is one of the most unbelievable and irrational claims in history”. Ridiculing the notion that complex life evolved from simpler forms, it claims this violates common sense and is just as “baseless” as assuming that when two rickshaws collide “a motor car was evolved”.

Colliding two rickshaws will, of course, never result in a motor car. That’s common sense. But what does this have to do with the prokaryote-eukaryote transition (which the authors are trying to refute)? More importantly, common sense isn’t good enough for science. Didn’t common sense once tell you that the sun moves across the sky, the earth is flat, and that being out in the cold produced colds? Common sense didn’t tell you that smoking was dangerous. Evidence did.

Ideological discomfort with science largely explains our near total absence from the world of creative science.
Evidence through years of patient observation — not common sense — led to Darwin’s theory of evolution and to Newton’s laws of motion. Take them away and biology, as well as physics, instantly collapses into a meaningless jumble of facts. Robbed of fundamentals, biology ceases to be biology and physics ceases to be physics. They cease to be branches of science.

If the quoted textbook was just one of a kind, I would not have written this article. But almost all books have this attitude. Another KP textbook says “A person in a stable and proper state of mind” cannot accept the wild theories of Western science. By corollary, only mad people can. A physics textbook of the Sindh Textbook Board categorically states that the universe sprang instantly into existence when a certain divine phrase was uttered.

Anti-science does not live in our textbooks only. Many Pakistani science and maths teachers are uncomfortable with their vocations. Whether in schools or universities, they obtained their jobs by possessing requisite certificates and degrees. But not all agree with what they are paid to teach, or even understand it. It should surprise no one that most biology teachers in Pakistan either do not — or perhaps dare not — touch upon human evolution.

Other teachers also feel torn between science and faith. Qari N. was a mathematics professor at Quaid-i-Azam University and my neighbour in the QAU housing colony. He was a soft-spoken and deeply pious man who wore his shalwar well above his ankles and would rebuff customary embraces after Eid prayers, declaring them to be bid’at (an innovation, hence disallowed).

His PhD in mathematics notwithstanding, the gentle qari would say to his M.Sc students that although it was his job to teach, yet mathematics was not to be trusted. He rejected not just mathematics but all Western cultural contaminations, including modern medicine. A chronic diabetic, he refused to see a regular doctor and instead put his trust in a hakeem who prescribed several spoonfuls daily of pure honey. Sadly, I was unable to make it to his funeral because of my busy class schedule that day.

Ideological discomfort with science largely explains Pakistan’s total absence from the world of creative science or technology. But there are other competing reasons, foremost among which is corruption and extreme incompetence in the field of textbook publishing. I do not think there is another country in the world that miseducates its young so badly.

Over four decades, I have collected scores of school science textbooks, both Urdu and English. Most have been produced by the Punjab and Sindh textbook boards. You can guess how many copies need to be printed for a population of 200 million people, as well as imagine the profits from even a small markup. These are ideal conditions for corruption and incompetence to thrive in government education departments.

One year ago, my article ‘Burn these books, please!’ was published in this newspaper. It pleaded that our students should be kept away “from the rotten science textbooks published by the Sindh Textbook Board (STB), an entity operating under the Sindh Ministry of Education. Else yet another generation will end up woefully ignorant of the subjects they study — physics, mathematics, chemistry, and biology.”

The article caught the attention of the current Sindh secretary of education, a man who appeared committed to change. He invited me to be part of the Sindh government’s education advisory board, an honorary position which I instantly accepted. A Karachi-based philanthropist offered to underwrite expenses needed for a massive revamp of textbook development and also paid my airfare to attend a committee meeting. There was some excitement, and a faint ray of hope that one hoped was not that faint.

The first meeting was duly held, and then subsequent ones. Unfortunately, the committee’s secretary made sure nothing would really move. Many promises were made but none were kept, critical issues were left unaddressed, and endless bureaucratic hurdles were devised.

One year later I see that our efforts — including those of a US-based Pakistani academic — had been neatly sabotaged. Now I hear over the grapevine that the committee has been dissolved. It doesn’t matter if it has — the lack of seriousness was apparent from day one. When foxes are charged with protecting chickens, the outcome rarely surprises.

The Sindh education ministry is beyond reform. It cannot deliver good textbooks for Matric and FSc. Adapting, subsidising, and translating internationally produced ‘O’ and ‘A’ level science books — used presently by only a tiny sliver of upscale Pakistani schools — is the only reasonable way to go. Those who protest that this amounts to a Western cultural invasion should be asked to produce their own science. In the meantime they shouldn’t use electricity or mobile phones, and travel only on donkeys and camels. Instead of antibiotics or insulin they could, like my former neighbour, opt to use honey.

The writer teaches physics and mathematics in Lahore and Islamabad.

Published in Dawn, December 3rd, 2016
 
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Promoting anti-science via textbooks

PERVEZ HOODBHOY

5841d6b24ef4e.jpg

The writer teaches physics and mathematics in Lahore and Islamabad.


A BIOLOGY textbook is normally expected to teach biology as science, meaning a scientifically based study of the structure, growth and origin of living things. But what if such a book instead says science must follow ideology and loudly denounces the core principles of biology, condemning these as wrong and irrational?

Published in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa last year, a biology textbook declares that “The theory of evolution, as proposed by Charles Darwin in the 19th century, is one of the most unbelievable and irrational claims in history”. Ridiculing the notion that complex life evolved from simpler forms, it claims this violates common sense and is just as “baseless” as assuming that when two rickshaws collide “a motor car was evolved”.

Colliding two rickshaws will, of course, never result in a motor car. That’s common sense. But what does this have to do with the prokaryote-eukaryote transition (which the authors are trying to refute)? More importantly, common sense isn’t good enough for science. Didn’t common sense once tell you that the sun moves across the sky, the earth is flat, and that being out in the cold produced colds? Common sense didn’t tell you that smoking was dangerous. Evidence did.

Ideological discomfort with science largely explains our near total absence from the world of creative science.
Evidence through years of patient observation — not common sense — led to Darwin’s theory of evolution and to Newton’s laws of motion. Take them away and biology, as well as physics, instantly collapses into a meaningless jumble of facts. Robbed of fundamentals, biology ceases to be biology and physics ceases to be physics. They cease to be branches of science.

If the quoted textbook was just one of a kind, I would not have written this article. But almost all books have this attitude. Another KP textbook says “A person in a stable and proper state of mind” cannot accept the wild theories of Western science. By corollary, only mad people can. A physics textbook of the Sindh Textbook Board categorically states that the universe sprang instantly into existence when a certain divine phrase was uttered.

Anti-science does not live in our textbooks only. Many Pakistani science and maths teachers are uncomfortable with their vocations. Whether in schools or universities, they obtained their jobs by possessing requisite certificates and degrees. But not all agree with what they are paid to teach, or even understand it. It should surprise no one that most biology teachers in Pakistan either do not — or perhaps dare not — touch upon human evolution.

Other teachers also feel torn between science and faith. Qari N. was a mathematics professor at Quaid-i-Azam University and my neighbour in the QAU housing colony. He was a soft-spoken and deeply pious man who wore his shalwar well above his ankles and would rebuff customary embraces after Eid prayers, declaring them to be bid’at (an innovation, hence disallowed).

His PhD in mathematics notwithstanding, the gentle qari would say to his M.Sc students that although it was his job to teach, yet mathematics was not to be trusted. He rejected not just mathematics but all Western cultural contaminations, including modern medicine. A chronic diabetic, he refused to see a regular doctor and instead put his trust in a hakeem who prescribed several spoonfuls daily of pure honey. Sadly, I was unable to make it to his funeral because of my busy class schedule that day.

Ideological discomfort with science largely explains Pakistan’s total absence from the world of creative science or technology. But there are other competing reasons, foremost among which is corruption and extreme incompetence in the field of textbook publishing. I do not think there is another country in the world that miseducates its young so badly.

Over four decades, I have collected scores of school science textbooks, both Urdu and English. Most have been produced by the Punjab and Sindh textbook boards. You can guess how many copies need to be printed for a population of 200 million people, as well as imagine the profits from even a small markup. These are ideal conditions for corruption and incompetence to thrive in government education departments.

One year ago, my article ‘Burn these books, please!’ was published in this newspaper. It pleaded that our students should be kept away “from the rotten science textbooks published by the Sindh Textbook Board (STB), an entity operating under the Sindh Ministry of Education. Else yet another generation will end up woefully ignorant of the subjects they study — physics, mathematics, chemistry, and biology.”

The article caught the attention of the current Sindh secretary of education, a man who appeared committed to change. He invited me to be part of the Sindh government’s education advisory board, an honorary position which I instantly accepted. A Karachi-based philanthropist offered to underwrite expenses needed for a massive revamp of textbook development and also paid my airfare to attend a committee meeting. There was some excitement, and a faint ray of hope that one hoped was not that faint.

The first meeting was duly held, and then subsequent ones. Unfortunately, the committee’s secretary made sure nothing would really move. Many promises were made but none were kept, critical issues were left unaddressed, and endless bureaucratic hurdles were devised.

One year later I see that our efforts — including those of a US-based Pakistani academic — had been neatly sabotaged. Now I hear over the grapevine that the committee has been dissolved. It doesn’t matter if it has — the lack of seriousness was apparent from day one. When foxes are charged with protecting chickens, the outcome rarely surprises.

The Sindh education ministry is beyond reform. It cannot deliver good textbooks for Matric and FSc. Adapting, subsidising, and translating internationally produced ‘O’ and ‘A’ level science books — used presently by only a tiny sliver of upscale Pakistani schools — is the only reasonable way to go. Those who protest that this amounts to a Western cultural invasion should be asked to produce their own science. In the meantime they shouldn’t use electricity or mobile phones, and travel only on donkeys and camels. Instead of antibiotics or insulin they could, like my former neighbour, opt to use honey.

The writer teaches physics and mathematics in Lahore and Islamabad.

Published in Dawn, December 3rd, 2016
that is why i always advice the parents to send their child to the school with British curriculum. in pakistan we study biology and physics for the first time when we get to the 9th grade and what do we get in introduction is some rubbish claims and views of third grade author.can you imagine what impact these half baked views have on young minds.to top it off our teachers who are unfortunately experts in these subjects are unwilling to refute these baseless claims heck they support them.
@Chauvinist you have a biology related bachelors can you share your stories and views.
 
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that is why i always advice the parents to send their child to the school with British curriculum. in pakistan we study biology and physics for the first time when we get to the 9th grade and what do we get in introduction is some rubbish claims and views of third grade author.can you imagine what impact these half baked views have on young minds.to top it off our teachers who are unfortunately experts in these subjects are unwilling to refute these baseless claims heck they support them.
@Chauvinist you have a biology related bachelors can you share your stories and views.
mixing religion in education & state affairs and than we get surprised by the end product zombies :taz:
 
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that is why i always advice the parents to send heir child to the school with British curriculum. in pakistan we study biology and physics for the first time when we get to the 9th grade and what do we get in introduction is some rubbish claims and views of third grade author.can you imagine what impact these half baked views have on young minds.to top it off our teachers who are unfortunately experts in these subjects are unwilling to refute these baseless claims heck they support them.
@Chauvinist you have a biology related bachelors can you share your stories and views.

Let me explain.... I've studied the books authored by Punjab Text book board.. and there was nothing such bullshit in them rather we were taught a bit of every thing in our General science till 8th like chapters having all Bio ,chem and phy .. while in 9th grade we had biology who then had all the chapters from all the fields like Micro,Genetic,Molecular Biology,anatomy,biochem etc...and in FSc later all was elaborated...

Now the thing in KPK is obviously happened due to negligence of authorities who maintain standards of Text in course books..

One more thing we people usually create a clash between Islam and Science and thus could hide our faults and stand on our false claims... Authorities are responsible all the way of decreasing standard of education in Pakistan... We shouldn't moan of having dull future as we make them taught this shit...

While I can give the example of Evolution in Islam... Adam's hight was far higher than today's man... Same was with their other body features.. Evolution happened and now we are in this form..
 
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Let me explain.... I've studied the books authored by Punjab Text book board.. and there was nothing such bullshit in them rather we were taught a bit of every thing in our General science till 8th like chapters having all Bio ,chem and phy .. while in 9th grade we had biology who then had all the chapters from all the fields like Micro,Genetic,Molecular Biology,anatomy,biochem etc...and in FSc later all was elaborated...

Now the thing in KPK is obviously happened due to negligence of authorities who maintain standards of Text in course books..

One more thing we people usually create a clash between Islam and Science and thus could hide our faults and stand on our false claims... Authorities are responsible all the way of decreasing standard of education in Pakistan... We shouldn't moan of having dull future as we make them taught this shit...

While I can give the example of Evolution in Islam... Adam's hight was far higher than today's man... Same was with their other body features.. Evolution happened and now we are in this form..
problem also lies with our teachers too. my biology teacher was ashamed of teaching us the reproductive system of a god damn frog and he said this on our first day that every thing in bio is fine but the theory of evolution is rubbish.
can you believe that.i mean what the hell is wrong with the you(referring my teacher as you here). keep your Islamic beliefs to yourself you are here to teach bio not Islamiat and the first thing that you did was abolishing of the one of the basic concepts of the subject in front of the poor students who didn't even know much about the subject in the first place.:hitwall::hitwall:
 
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Let me explain.... I've studied the books authored by Punjab Text book board.. and there was nothing such bullshit in them rather we were taught a bit of every thing in our General science till 8th like chapters having all Bio ,chem and phy .. while in 9th grade we had biology who then had all the chapters from all the fields like Micro,Genetic,Molecular Biology,anatomy,biochem etc...and in FSc later all was elaborated...

Now the thing in KPK is obviously happened due to negligence of authorities who maintain standards of Text in course books..

One more thing we people usually create a clash between Islam and Science and thus could hide our faults and stand on our false claims... Authorities are responsible all the way of decreasing standard of education in Pakistan... We shouldn't moan of having dull future as we make them taught this shit...

While I can give the example of Evolution in Islam... Adam's hight was far higher than today's man... Same was with their other body features.. Evolution happened and now we are in this form..

Not only height but the longevity of men's age. Even they say People of Sodom were 7 8 feet long. The most logical explanation behind this that I can conjure is back then in the era of Adam and subsequent people, Oxygen was more purer than today it is. Purer oxygen = longevity. As oxygen started getting contaminated, the longevity decrease also the subsequent features and this what we can call an evolution. Though general idea of Theory of evolution is in each generation of humans, the physical aspects of human body change. That we can agree upon, but the as it further progresses where it says Animals evolved in to Humans, that's where I began to differ into theory of evolution
 
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problem also lies with our teachers too. my biology teacher was ashamed of teaching us the reproductive system of a god damn frog and he said this on our first day that ever thing in bio is fine but the theory of evolution is rubbish.
can you believe that.i mean what the hell is wrong with you. keep your Islamic beliefs to yourself you are here to teach bio not Islamist and the first thing that you did was abolishing of the one of the basic concepts of the subject in front of the poor students who didn't even know much about the subject in the first place.:hitwall::hitwall:

Yeah Always.... I mean what the hell with teaching the Reproduction??? Bachay now a days know more than the text books... in my university the thing is much lowered Thank God.. They teach like how it's taught.. May be they all are PhD's from foreign..

Now Islam has the base of everything and science just explains.... I'll just QUOTE a example from Surah Alaq..." Created man from a clinging substance.."

Science just elaborated and searched for how is this clinging substance formed and which organs took part.. and what happens further..

It reminds me a thing read years agoپنکھے کے نیچے بیٹھ کر ایک شخص مائک میں کہ رہا تھا سائنس حرام ہے ...
 
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It reminds me a thing read years agoپنکھے کے نیچے بیٹھ کر ایک شخص مائک میں کہ رہا تھا سائنس حرام ہے ...
:rofl::rofl: bas apney mulak hal bhi kuch asa hi hay
 
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My Hoodbhoy is greatest Muslim Scientist of 21st century after Iban Khulddon , Sir Abdus Salam, Bo Ali Sena, Al Jabar ect.


There should come in tomorrow's history books
Abdus Salam (1960-2000)
Pervaiz Hoodbhoy (1960-2030)


 
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Yeah Always.... I mean what the hell with teaching the Reproduction??? Bachay now a days know more than the text books... in my university the thing is much lowered Thank God.. They teach like how it's taught.. May be they all are PhD's from foreign..
let me tell you one more funny thing about that guy.this story isn't about a local private or government school in some backward corner of Pakistan this happen to me in KSA. he was teaching this rubbish in the Pakistani embassy school of jeddah.i mean out 200 million people our Pakistani embassy couldn't chose a competent guy to teach in an international school.:mad:
 
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Promoting anti-science via textbooks

PERVEZ HOODBHOY

5841d6b24ef4e.jpg

The writer teaches physics and mathematics in Lahore and Islamabad.


A BIOLOGY textbook is normally expected to teach biology as science, meaning a scientifically based study of the structure, growth and origin of living things. But what if such a book instead says science must follow ideology and loudly denounces the core principles of biology, condemning these as wrong and irrational?

Published in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa last year, a biology textbook declares that “The theory of evolution, as proposed by Charles Darwin in the 19th century, is one of the most unbelievable and irrational claims in history”. Ridiculing the notion that complex life evolved from simpler forms, it claims this violates common sense and is just as “baseless” as assuming that when two rickshaws collide “a motor car was evolved”.

Colliding two rickshaws will, of course, never result in a motor car. That’s common sense. But what does this have to do with the prokaryote-eukaryote transition (which the authors are trying to refute)? More importantly, common sense isn’t good enough for science. Didn’t common sense once tell you that the sun moves across the sky, the earth is flat, and that being out in the cold produced colds? Common sense didn’t tell you that smoking was dangerous. Evidence did.

Ideological discomfort with science largely explains our near total absence from the world of creative science.
Evidence through years of patient observation — not common sense — led to Darwin’s theory of evolution and to Newton’s laws of motion. Take them away and biology, as well as physics, instantly collapses into a meaningless jumble of facts. Robbed of fundamentals, biology ceases to be biology and physics ceases to be physics. They cease to be branches of science.

If the quoted textbook was just one of a kind, I would not have written this article. But almost all books have this attitude. Another KP textbook says “A person in a stable and proper state of mind” cannot accept the wild theories of Western science. By corollary, only mad people can. A physics textbook of the Sindh Textbook Board categorically states that the universe sprang instantly into existence when a certain divine phrase was uttered.

Anti-science does not live in our textbooks only. Many Pakistani science and maths teachers are uncomfortable with their vocations. Whether in schools or universities, they obtained their jobs by possessing requisite certificates and degrees. But not all agree with what they are paid to teach, or even understand it. It should surprise no one that most biology teachers in Pakistan either do not — or perhaps dare not — touch upon human evolution.

Other teachers also feel torn between science and faith. Qari N. was a mathematics professor at Quaid-i-Azam University and my neighbour in the QAU housing colony. He was a soft-spoken and deeply pious man who wore his shalwar well above his ankles and would rebuff customary embraces after Eid prayers, declaring them to be bid’at (an innovation, hence disallowed).

His PhD in mathematics notwithstanding, the gentle qari would say to his M.Sc students that although it was his job to teach, yet mathematics was not to be trusted. He rejected not just mathematics but all Western cultural contaminations, including modern medicine. A chronic diabetic, he refused to see a regular doctor and instead put his trust in a hakeem who prescribed several spoonfuls daily of pure honey. Sadly, I was unable to make it to his funeral because of my busy class schedule that day.

Ideological discomfort with science largely explains Pakistan’s total absence from the world of creative science or technology. But there are other competing reasons, foremost among which is corruption and extreme incompetence in the field of textbook publishing. I do not think there is another country in the world that miseducates its young so badly.

Over four decades, I have collected scores of school science textbooks, both Urdu and English. Most have been produced by the Punjab and Sindh textbook boards. You can guess how many copies need to be printed for a population of 200 million people, as well as imagine the profits from even a small markup. These are ideal conditions for corruption and incompetence to thrive in government education departments.

One year ago, my article ‘Burn these books, please!’ was published in this newspaper. It pleaded that our students should be kept away “from the rotten science textbooks published by the Sindh Textbook Board (STB), an entity operating under the Sindh Ministry of Education. Else yet another generation will end up woefully ignorant of the subjects they study — physics, mathematics, chemistry, and biology.”

The article caught the attention of the current Sindh secretary of education, a man who appeared committed to change. He invited me to be part of the Sindh government’s education advisory board, an honorary position which I instantly accepted. A Karachi-based philanthropist offered to underwrite expenses needed for a massive revamp of textbook development and also paid my airfare to attend a committee meeting. There was some excitement, and a faint ray of hope that one hoped was not that faint.

The first meeting was duly held, and then subsequent ones. Unfortunately, the committee’s secretary made sure nothing would really move. Many promises were made but none were kept, critical issues were left unaddressed, and endless bureaucratic hurdles were devised.

One year later I see that our efforts — including those of a US-based Pakistani academic — had been neatly sabotaged. Now I hear over the grapevine that the committee has been dissolved. It doesn’t matter if it has — the lack of seriousness was apparent from day one. When foxes are charged with protecting chickens, the outcome rarely surprises.

The Sindh education ministry is beyond reform. It cannot deliver good textbooks for Matric and FSc. Adapting, subsidising, and translating internationally produced ‘O’ and ‘A’ level science books — used presently by only a tiny sliver of upscale Pakistani schools — is the only reasonable way to go. Those who protest that this amounts to a Western cultural invasion should be asked to produce their own science. In the meantime they shouldn’t use electricity or mobile phones, and travel only on donkeys and camels. Instead of antibiotics or insulin they could, like my former neighbour, opt to use honey.

The writer teaches physics and mathematics in Lahore and Islamabad.

Published in Dawn, December 3rd, 2016
But last i remember darwin theory is even rejected by scientists based on the fact there are no intermediary species between baboons and humans ... if there is something as evaluation then there should be some intermediary ...

I dont think why do you people are so much anti religion ... the theory even rejected by scientists and you are condemning islam ... :hitwall:
 
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Not only height but the longevity of men's age. Even they say People of Sodom were 7 8 feet long. T

Yup... I was about to write this... Mery samnay koi behas kary about Islam conflict with science to btaun main Usay... I often get claimed as Non Muslim by my Aalima cousins ...:sick: but who cares... Science is just an Elaboration of what He said in His Book.. He wanted His man to know what He created... and our Molvi's are getting us deprived...

In every science research centre in West they study Holy Book...to explore... while we can only fight on it..

:rofl::rofl: bas apney mulak hal bhi kuch asa hi hay

Asal main Shakhs ki jga to Kuch aur tha main modify kar dia.. Bhai reports b kar detay hain log..:partay:
 
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But last i remember darwin theory is even rejected by scientists based on the fact there are no intermediary species between baboons and humans ... if there is something as evaluation then there should be some intermediary ...

I dont think why do you people are so much anti religion ... the theory even rejected by scientists and you are condemning islam ... :hitwall:
thread is about silly stuff in Pakistani text books not Islamic text books .. so no need to bang your head against the wall so hard
 
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