Hayreddin
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Nope . It wld be amulgum of turkish input , chinese tech and also some western .So its just a Chinese jet in PAF colors
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Nope . It wld be amulgum of turkish input , chinese tech and also some western .So its just a Chinese jet in PAF colors
So its just a Chinese jet in PAF colors
At this stage any partnership in FC31 will be very expensive as you would have to buy your way into it; meaning buying aircraft and paying more for whatever technology you can absorb. As I understand this would be nearly impossible due to the financial situation.How Can a Strategic Project Like AZM is off the shelf buy for PAF, sounds ridicules.
If Indeed FC-31/J-35 = Project AZM than at least there would be an 50:50 rights partnership arrangements somewhere, just like we see in JF-17 between PAC & CAC. Exception of that kind of arrangement at any level, its only foolish to believes that Pakistan will go ahead to treat Project AZM=FC-31/J-35.
Why are you getting so upset about acquaring J-31 by PAF from China.i belive Pakistan join this J-35 project...At this stage any partnership in FC31 will be very expensive as you would have to buy your way into it; meaning buying aircraft and paying more for whatever technology you can absorb. As I understand this would be nearly impossible due to the financial situation.
Project AZM seems an indigenous design with of course some components procured from elsewhere. It is ambitious and a step in the right direction. The output of this programme can only be speculated upon at this stage but lets hope for the best.
I don't know whether you are speculating or speaking to actual information but what you have said seems like the most reasonable and logical option. Other options would have made me feel very afraid for PAC but this option (if true) suggests the people at PAC are looking at things practically/realistically (and not making the same mistake as our neighbors to the East).Project azm stealth fighter is the improved version of j31 , u can call it jf35 or something . Its maiden flight wld be around 2024/25 as hinted by paf before . Reason of making it a separate project for integration and support western + turkish parts n skills.
You could argue the same for the JF-17 but nobody is under any doubts about how good that program has been for Pakistan's air force and aerospace industry. I would speculate the JF-17 development model will be followed, but better. Better in the sense that unlike the JF-17, China is set to induct some version of the aircraft as well, which means we can possibly integrate PAC into supply chains for China.So its just a Chinese jet in PAF colors
So its just a Chinese jet in PAF colors
Yep. In addition to cost savings via economies of scale (read: PLAAF/PLAN orders) and supply chain integration, the only other thing I'd hope for is actual technology competency. In other words, we should never be at a point where we can't or don't know how to integrate our choice of weapons and subsystems to the fighter in Pakistan.I don't know whether you are speculating or speaking to actual information but what you have said seems like the most reasonable and logical option. Other options would have made me feel very afraid for PAC but this option (if true) suggests the people at PAC are looking at things practically/realistically (and not making the same mistake as our neighbors to the East).
You could argue the same for the JF-17 but nobody is under any doubts about how good that program has been for Pakistan's air force and aerospace industry. I would speculate the JF-17 development model will be followed, but better. Better in the sense that unlike the JF-17, China is set to induct some version of the aircraft as well, which means we can possibly integrate PAC into supply chains for China.
Where did you get the idea anyone was upset? I am talking about 'partnership' in FC31/ J31.Why are you getting so upset about acquaring J-31 by PAF from China.i belive Pakistan join this J-35 project...
You should see the AMCA graphic in their thread, it is literally an FC 31 with Indian decalsSo its just a Chinese jet in PAF colors
Oops sorry bro maybe i taken in wrong way if that happen it will be a great news but right now no updates from both sides...W
Where did you get the idea anyone was upset? I am talking about 'partnership' in FC31/ J31.
Sir what is holding us back from doing it now. I remember having asked uA good post. The problem remains one of coinciding interests. I want to mention the Indian efforts with the Kaveri project and inspite of support from all and sundry they did not succeed. There are a lot of hurdles to cross for us to start producing engines even for licence production. However I understand the need to start somewhere. It depends on money as well as effort. We can do the later but without the former we will struggle. We also are decades behind inmetalurgy and have been criminally negligent in not establishing specialized steel plants and introducing post graduation in metallurgy. The Germans in the mid 50s offered to set up steel plants for us. However they wanted smaller units in multople sites. We elected to go big in one site and have suffered and the steel mill is now closed. Bhutto in his ill thought out nationalization destroyed the only private venture to manufacture specialized steel on Pakistan. We have been set back at least 20-30 yrs by that egomaniac.
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What is pc7?Noone belives pakistan can do it alone..point was can we build pc-7. We already do
My brother. Read my post again. Time and money plus no metallurgical base and R&D.This is not something we can do overnight. Establish Special steel plants go on to bike and car engines and build industry from there.you will need 30 years and 30 billion dollars and your demand will be ???24 engines. much better to spend money elsewhereSir what is holding us back from doing it now. I remember having asked u
What is pc7?
Make sense.My brother. Read my post again. Time and money plus no metallurgical base and R&D.This is not something we can do overnight. Establish Special steel plants go on to bike and car engines and build industry from there.you will need 30 years and 30 billion dollars and your demand will be ???24 engines. much better to spend money elsewhere