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Progression of secularism : 'Incest is no longer a taboo,' says Australian judge Garry Neilson

Is NOT secular liberalism absolute madness and goes against the human intellect and conscience ?


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'Incest is no longer a taboo,' says Australian judge Garry Neilson


The District Court Jude said incest was only illegal 'to prevent chromosomal abnormalities'

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Across the world it is considered one of the final taboos – but a Sydney judge has suggested that incest is on a par with homosexuality.


District Court Judge Garry Neilson has been criticised for espousing the view that sexual contact between siblings or between adults and children should perhaps no longer be viewed as “unnatural” or “taboo”, the Sydney Morning Herald reported.

Neilson drew parallels with widely changing attitudes towards gay sex. In the same way, he said, “a jury might find nothing untoward in the advance of a brother towards his sister once she had sexually matured, had sexual relationships with other men and was now ‘available’, not having [a] sexual partner”.

The judge went on to say that incest is only criminalised because of the high chance that any resulting offspring will be born with serious birth defects, but added that “even that [risk] falls away to an extent [because] there is such ease of contraception and readily access to abortion”.

Neilson made the astonishing comments during the trial of a brother charged with raping his younger sister. The man had earlier pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting his sister when he was 17 and she was 10 or 11 in 1973 or 1974 – but pleaded not guilty to the charge of sexual intercourse without consent, with an alternative charge of incest, for the alleged 1981 offence.


However, Neilson refused to admit the evidence from the earlier case. He claimed that the sexual abuse that happened in the 1970s was of a different nature to that which occurred in the 1980s when the girl was 18 and the man 26.

Neilson said: “By that stage they are both mature adults. The complainant has been sexually awoken, shall we say, by having two relationships with men and she had become ‘free’ when the second relationship broke down.

The only thing that might change that is the fact that they were a brother and sister but we’ve come a long way from the 1950s … when the position of the English Common Law was that sex outside marriage was not lawful.”

He added that incest was only illegal “to prevent chromosomal abnormalities” and drew comparisons with the acceptance of homosexuality.

“If this was the 50s and you had a jury of 12 men there, which is what you’d invariably have, they would say it’s unnatural for a man to be interested in another man or a man being interested in a boy. Those things have gone.”


On Tuesday Crown Prosecutor Sally Dowling SC asked the Court of Criminal Appeal to hand over the case to a different judge because of Neilson’s “misogynistic” views.

“These remarks in my submission are completely disgraceful,” Dowling said.

“The reference to abortion is particularly repellent.”

And Nielson has now been referred to the NSW Judicial Commission by NSW Attorney-General Brad Hazzard, who has also asked the Chief Judge of the District Court that Neilson be removed from any criminal trials pending an investigation into the matter.

“I was extremely concerned to read the comments of His Honour Judge Garry Neilson in regard to his views on incest,” Hazzard said in a statement.

“In my view the community would be rightly appalled at his reported comments. Incest is completely reprehensible, unacceptable, disgusting and criminal.”

Dr Cathy Kezelman, the president of Adults Surviving Child Abuse, said the comments were “outrageous”.

“The relational betrayal of the horrors of incest between a brother and sister of any age is abhorrently criminal,” she said.

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This judge seem to be a true believer of secular liberalism and his line of argument is perfectly based on secular liberal criterion. Those westerners maligning him seem to be committing a grave sin in secularism by denying the consenting adult siblings sexual freedom and right to choose their partners. :lol: Their guiding principles are scientism , absolute individual freedom, moral relativism , consumerism , materialism and hedonism. This secular liberalism is the religion of the post-christian West and they actually want to impose it on others in the name of human rights , liberty and freedom. They also have their resident agents in the muslim world from Rabat to Islamabad and Dhaka to Jakarta. These agents call themselves "progressive muslims" or "liberal muslims" and they are fighting an uphill battle for the cause of secularism against "evil mullahs" , "reactionary fundamentalist", "Oppressed Niqabis" and "Bearded extremists" . PDF also has fair share of such "progressive muslims" advocating for secularism at any given opportunity.The muslim world should make sure these "progressives" can not progress beyond their households.

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What has this judge's view gotta do with secularism?
Secularism means separation of religion and state.
You seem to be implying that secularism has no moral compass.

And cousin marriage is a taboo in most part of the world and is considered next to incest as a taboo. Does that mean Muslims are ultra secularist in its own way? No right.
This judge is a person with skewed moral.
 
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Majority will not agree with the judge. Incest is heinous, and anyone who say it is ok should visit a doctor.
 
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What has this judge's view gotta do with secularism?
Secularism means separation of religion and state.
You seem to be implying that secularism has no moral compass.

And cousin marriage is a taboo in most part of the world and is considered next to incest as a taboo. Does that mean Muslims are ultra secularist in its own way? No right.
This judge is a person with skewed moral.

No, suckularism does not ensure separation of Hinduism from Hindustan. It's a hoax! Apart from that the judge has simply implied a fact about suckularism. Suckularisim breeds indiscriminate sex, there's no doubt about it.
 
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their life their rules who are we to interfere.
 
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No, suckularism does not ensure separation of Hinduism from Hindustan. It's a hoax! Apart from that the judge has simply implied a fact about suckularism. Suckularisim breeds indiscriminate sex, there's no doubt about it.
Official name of India is Republic of India, not Hindu Republic of India.
And Hindus, being the majority in India, will always influence the way our country works, but that does mean minority rights and beliefs will be trampled upon.
 
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So Aussies fancy one eyed babies cool whatever floats their boat mate not my headache
 
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Here we have a pious fundamentalist secular liberal doing Jihad in saudi arabia and pakistan:

their life their rules who are we to interfere.


While here we have a non-practicing irreligious secular liberal doing soft jihad in pakistan :

So Aussies fancy one eyed babies cool whatever floats their boat mate not my headache
 
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Majority will not agree with the judge. Incest is heinous, and anyone who say it is ok should visit a doctor.

Just 25 years ago majority westerners also did NOT agree with homosexuality/sodomy. GO back 50 years , adultery was frowned upon in the west. What happened with the passage of time? So the west most likely will come around and accept this heinous form of sexual expression in due time.
 
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Just 25 years ago majority westerners also did NOT agree with homosexuality/sodomy. GO back 50 years , adultery was frowned upon in the west. What happened with the passage of time? Secular India is also becoming more and more liberal. So your country along with the west most likely will come around and accept this heinous form of sexual expression in due time.

Could you stop being mentally sick. Why are you bringing India into a discussion that has no relation to India.
 
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Lets see what the PDF secular liberals has to say about this judge.
So you have now began to use one man as referance for a entire political philosospy? One man does not maketh a system. If it was:-


*Would you agree with some the prescriptions adopted by Daesh?

*or in Saudia Arabia

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*Or the against polio vaccine in Pakistan

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Don't use anomalies to malig a entire system. The fact is on average a larger body of humanity over large spread of geographic space over varied countries live in modicum of peace, order, fairness and order under secularism than any other system.

Maybe that is why so many Muslims are legging ( in some cases literally walking) and seeking refuge in Dar al Harb while escaping from Dar al Islam.

This is my long answer. My short answer inspired by people like you is "the judge ain't real secularist innit".
 
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Could you stop being mentally sick. Why are you bringing India into a discussion that has no relation to India.
third rate communal bigots dont even bother responding to them.
 
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