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I believe you dont get sarcasm...Plus this post alone shows how little you know about Pakistan ...so before calling others name point the finger to yourself..Let me know when you can vote them in/out cycle after cycle without violence, then you can call yourselves 'Americanized'.
And that is all I was talking aboutWhat I explained was in the abstract. In practice, of course there is corruption in the American political system and processes.
Iasked who donated them you said people...for the sake of argument I accept the blatant respond so I asked what type of people and you go in circles ...lovely!Who paid for the election campaign ? How about donations from the people ?
Contributions Brochure
Contribution Limits Chart 2013-14
Big Money Breakdown: Why 2012 Is the Most Expensive Election Ever
And that is the very point we raised but you took it as an attack on America or a question regarding your system and freedom to voteYou did not perform even basic logic, let alone basic research. Logical thinking would mean money cannot be conjured out of nothing. Had to come from somewhere, right ?
There you go going all defensive and rude ... no one is saying limitless flow...we are talking about the present flow...who donated it if not the rich...simple question which you answered in the quoted post above this one...and that is all I said but you twisted my words in your brain and thought you pulled a miracle when you echoed my wordsThe dishonesty in your, and others', criticism is that somehow a billionaire, millionaire, and corporations can give as much as each like, never mind that the federal laws on limits are plain for anyone to search and think about it.
I never said any of that... lets use your words shall we: dishonesty on high alert here?So if the 2012 campaign combined cost of $1 billion and there are laws limiting individual and PAC contributions to maximum of $5000, WHERE THE HELL DO YOU THINK THE REST OF THAT BILLION CAME FROM ? RUSSIANS ? CHINESE ? CUBANS ?
And that is our point...1000 or 3000 people brought random xyz to fame by donating the campaign otherwise whole of American population doesnt know each and every individual in the country! So what we said is simple....The 1000-3000 have the power to choose who make famous so that simpleton like you can vote for them....Now the question is on the 1000-3000 not you simpleton so stop getting paranoid and defensive!If 1000 people create a 'political action committee' (PAC) for Hillary Clinton, then another 1000 create another PAC, and so on, each PAC is very much a lobbying group for each 1000 citizens who shares the same dream of electing Hillary Clinton or even Marvin the Martian for President. If 3000 people can do it for Hillary Clinton, another 3000 can do it for Marvin, another 3000 for Mitt Romney, another 3000 for Clint Eastwood, and so on, if they want to.
Maybe an everyday American should do that instead of just falling for their news agencies! Had I needed to just use the net like cyber geeks and not interact with human beings and question them...I wouldnt be on a forum... What are you doing here? go interact with google!Use the American invention called 'The Internet' and do a better job of questioning US.
how much can one dig before during a campaign? Do you think the rich became rich without knowledge of how to do their finances?The fucking laws are there for anyone to see and the goddamn newspapers dissect the contributions in every election.
No one is question to be rich or not but just the simple question of the influence of these rich people...these 1000-3000 odd contributors!Nothing wrong with being rich, is there ?
I guess you dont really know what coup is...not all coup uses bullets...Had it used bullets Nawaz Sharif would have been in his grave and not in Saudi!Because we use money instead of bullets to elect people.
Talk about rudeness...Maybe that has to do with lack of education because I dont know of a single educated person barking like that! Dont quote me to bark thanks!Then get your electoral house in order before you start 'questioning' US. But if you do, then considering the illiteracy rate in your house, we will taunt you for questioning US.