Presidential Debate 2012 Romney vs.Obama

[Barrack-Obummer]

67% think Romney won debate: poll


DENVER -- Mitt Romney battled back in his uphill drive to oust U.S. President Barack Obama on Wednesday with an aggressive debate performance that put his campaign on a more positive footing after weeks of stumbles and knocked Obama off-stride.

In the first of three presidential debates this month, Romney went beyond expectations as the two candidates stood side-by-side for the first time after months of campaigning against each other from long distance.

Looking to claw his way back into a race that has seen Obama hold an edge among voters, Romney was on the offensive throughout the 90-minute encounter with Obama. While the president landed some punches on Romney's tax plan, he did not appear as prepared as his rival and missed several opportunities to attack.

With under five weeks to go until the Nov. 6 election, it was uncertain whether Romney had managed to change the trajectory of a race that has favored Obama. It is difficult to dislodge an incumbent from the White House. In recent weeks, Romney has lurched from stumble to stumble and been unable to project a consistent message.

“How does it translate into the horse race? That's unclear,” said Steven Schier, a political science professor at Carleton College in Minnesota. “Romney should have some momentum. The question is whether he can maintain it.”

But there was no question that Romney's campaign felt it was now in a better position. In the “spin room” afterward, Romney advisers hung around for 90 minutes talking to reporters, long after the Obama side had decamped.

A CNN/ORC snap poll said 67 percent of registered voters surveyed thought Romney won the debate at the University of Denver, compared with 25 percent for Obama.


continues>67% think Romney won debate: poll - The China Post

Other polls I've seen show Romney at over 70% after the debate amongst undecided voters. I though Romney couldn't have done much better, although I'm not sure even his best can convince America to vote for him. It's too late in the game to be playing catch-up.

Liberal media ofcourse tried to play it down but Romney really did come with his best. Obama looked like he wanted to cry at certain points, and you could obviously tell he was down right ashamed of himself when they discussed the economy.

Personally I like neither of them, I'm tired of the 2 party system, both sides look more and more like each other with every election. It's all about which side can blow the most smoke up Americas (and the worlds) @ss.

 

[gambit]

Mitt Rommey is an idiot and American does not need a talk-active. Who will do better than Obama within short 4 year, plus Obama still cleaning up Bus[h] boy messy things.

Go Obama .... you have my supported !!!

Obama was an empty suit when he ran for President, and he STILL is an empty suit today despite nearly 4 yrs of being the President. Assess each man as FIRST TIME candidate for the Presidency, meaning compare Romney the candidate versus Obama the candidate and it is clear that by virtue of experience alone, Romney got Obama beat by the horizon, not merely a mile. Heck, even Palin is more experienced at governance and executive decision making than Obama.

 

[gambit]

...I'm tired of the 2 party system,...

The US is politically 'first past the post' electoral system...

First-past-the-post voting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A first-past-the-post (abbreviated FPTP or FPP) election is one that is won by the candidate with more votes than any other(s). It is a common, but not universal, feature of democratic political systems with single-member legislative districts, and tends to promote two-party competition.

What this mean is that if the Libertarian Party gains more supporters, as time passed, it will supplant either the Democratic or Republican, and the system balances out. If the party that was once defeated into insignificance regains its prominence, may be either the Libertarian or its rival will be replaced and the system balances out. The FPTP system discourages, but does not excludes, the existence of three or more political parties. The tricky part rests upon the people because the prominence of a political party depends on the persistence loyalty of believers to NOT defect to rivals. So in order for a FPTP system to tolerate a three party competition, not only must the believers be intensely loyal but equally persistence in party evangelism.

Note: There are neither legal barriers nor encouragement to a three party political structure inside a FPTP system. The tendency towards a two party rivalry is natural and organic and from the people themselves. Not legal.

 

[Developereo]

Romney won hands down. Obama was hesitant and stumbling.

However, I like the comment of one, uh, commentator: "the real winners were people who were actually awake at the end of the debate".

Each side wants to slip in a zinger that will dominate the airwaves. I expect the Obama side (either him or Biden) will slip in some comment with the words "47 percent" somewhere. It need have nothing to do with Romney's remarks and be about something else, but the message will be delivered and the press will run with it.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Romney won hands down. Obama was hesitant and stumbling.

However, I like the comment of one, uh, commentator: "the real winners were people who were actually awake at the end of the debate".

Developereo, who do you think would be better for Pakistan and China in terms of foreign policy, Obama or Romney? However marginal the benefit might be.

Republicans often talk tough on China, but I've found that they are quite lax in terms of economics (since they are economic right wingers, Laissez-faire and all that) and it ends up benefiting us more.

 

[JayAtl]

 

[JayAtl]

Obama was an empty suit when he ran for President, and he STILL is an empty suit today despite nearly 4 yrs of being the President. Assess each man as FIRST TIME candidate for the Presidency, meaning compare Romney the candidate versus Obama the candidate and it is clear that by virtue of experience alone, Romney got Obama beat by the horizon, not merely a mile. Heck, even Palin is more experienced at governance and executive decision making than Obama.

you moved to the tea party? If you want to go on policy to policy we can do that

last 50 years , dems created 42 mil jobs , repubs created 22mil.

Let me put this way. If I tell you that your taxes are going to be cut, healthcare to be provided where moochers don't cost you more, where your kids would not have to pay high interest student loans to banks on federally guaranteed loans- would you ask me if the guy was republican or democrat or go yeah I like that.

 

[mfreak]

Heck, even Palin is more experienced at governance and executive decision making than Obama.

The moment you say that dumb biootch has ANY...forget experience, BRAINS, then you lose all credibility.

Republicans pander to the rich. A lot of their party people are racists, white nationalists etc., I cant imagine voting for a candidate that people like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh endorse.

Obama is a progressive liberal, not a socialist. Sure he panders to the rich too, but who doesnt in politics? Its a balancing act.

As such after everything said and done, I guess Obama is the lesser of the two evils.

The only thing that will happen under Romney, is that the rich will get richer, and there will be a war with Iran

 

[Developereo]

Developereo, who do you think would be better for Pakistan and China in terms of foreign policy, Obama or Romney? However marginal the benefit might be.

Republicans often talk tough on China, but I've found that they are quite lax in terms of economics (since they are economic right wingers, Laissez-faire and all that) and it ends up benefiting us more.

Republicans tend to listen more to the Pentagon which, contrary to myth, tends to be far LESS eager to go to war than the civilians, so a Romney win would make for a more peaceful America (militarily). I don't think the drone campaign or anything else for Pakistan would change significantly so it makes no difference.

In terms of economic policy, given the economic doldrums back home, both parties would look for scapegoats and China is in the cross-hairs these days. Romney's big thing is that he would focus on jobs as a top priority rather than education, healthcare, etc., so outsourcing of jobs could become an issue. He would probably do a balancing act between China-bashing to placate the jobless and the middle class on the one hand, and respecting business leaders and free market proponents on the other. Hard to tell, I guess...

 

[Meengla]

This was my first time watching Romney speak for more than a couple of minutes--all previous Romney videos were news clips from here and there. I didn't pay much attention to them. Perhaps I am too much of a 'liberal' to even bother to listen to people like GWB, McCain, and Romney. Since my coming to America in 1991 I realized that Republicans were/are an angry, pro-rich party. My views haven't changed for about 2 decades.
Having said all this---I think Romney won the debate hands down. I will still not vote for him but I will give him the due credit. Also, the famed Obama rhetoric seemed mumbling without a teleprompter.

I am going to vote for Obama. That is for sure. I will do so while wishing there was a genuine 3rd party in the American electoral system--as far as I can tell, all democratic countries of the world have potent 3rd, 4th, 5th parties--except in America. I can't vote for someone like Romney who, while may not be an extremist, still has to pander to the extremist 20% fringe of America to win the Republican nomination.

 

[Kasim]

Obama look like Weak Man , Indian support to Romney....

 

[faithfulguy]

The US is politically 'first past the post' electoral system...

First-past-the-post voting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What this mean is that if the Libertarian Party gains more supporters, as time passed, it will supplant either the Democratic or Republican, and the system balances out. If the party that was once defeated into insignificance regains its prominence, may be either the Libertarian or its rival will be replaced and the system balances out. The FPTP system discourages, but does not excludes, the existence of three or more political parties. The tricky part rests upon the people because the prominence of a political party depends on the persistence loyalty of believers to NOT defect to rivals. So in order for a FPTP system to tolerate a three party competition, not only must the believers be intensely loyal but equally persistence in party evangelism.

Note: There are neither legal barriers nor encouragement to a three party political structure inside a FPTP system. The tendency towards a two party rivalry is natural and organic and from the people themselves. Not legal.

Not true, US presidential election requires the majority of electoral votes. Otherwise, the election got thrown into House of Representatives. What you state above apply to only state wide elections today. But each state can modify their electoral system as they see fit.

This was my first time watching Romney speak for more than a couple of minutes--all previous Romney videos were news clips from here and there. I didn't pay much attention to them. Perhaps I am too much of a 'liberal' to even bother to listen to people like GWB, McCain, and Romney. Since my coming to America in 1991 I realized that Republicans were/are an angry, pro-rich party. My views haven't changed for about 2 decades.
Having said all this---I think Romney won the debate hands down. I will still not vote for him but I will give him the due credit. Also, the famed Obama rhetoric seemed mumbling without a teleprompter.

I am going to vote for Obama. That is for sure. I will do so while wishing there was a genuine 3rd party in the American electoral system--as far as I can tell, all democratic countries of the world have potent 3rd, 4th, 5th parties--except in America. I can't vote for someone like Romney who, while may not be an extremist, still has to pander to the extremist 20% fringe of America to win the Republican nomination.

You could also just stay home.