President of the UAE is talking about selling Mirage 2000-9 to Greece.

[Foinikas]

Greece cannot handle Turkey now

We have the advantage in the air at least and would like to keep it this way.

 

[Sapei]

Greece needs to realize that it cannot win an arms race with Turkey. Turkey's defence Industry is advancing too fast. Greece will only bankrupt itself again.

By 2026, more than two dozen KE will have been delivered to TuAF. KE will make target practice out of these 4. generation aircrafts.

Best way for Greece and Turkey is to leave hostility behind and cooperate. Neither will win from a war.

 

[Trango Towers]

We have the advantage in the air at least and would like to keep it this way.

Loooool ok.
Just like the Indians you are delusional. No one is coming to help you. Remember you are bankrupt and the Germans own your *** for the next 100 years

 

[nahtanbob]

Loooool ok.
Just like the Indians you are delusional. No one is coming to help you. Remember you are bankrupt and the Germans own your *** for the next 100 years

at least Greece is in EU. Turkey has long term foreign debt issues

 

[Foinikas]

Loooool ok.
Just like the Indians you are delusional. No one is coming to help you. Remember you are bankrupt and the Germans own your *** for the next 100 years

We have

• 153 F-16C/D Block 30/50/52/52+/52+ Adv.
• 24 Mirage 2000-5 Mk.II
• 6 Rafale F3R
• 35 F-4E PI

The Turkish Air Force has

• 245 F-16C/D
• 48 F-4E Terminator 2020

By the end of the year,we will have 3-4 more Rafale and about 8-9 F-16Vs

If we add a squadron of Mirage 2000-9 to all that,it would be nice.

And our Air Force also has better AA systems than the Turkish one,which is just fielding its first indigenous ones,except the S-400s of course.

 

[Trango Towers]

We have

• 153 F-16C/D Block 30/50/52/52+/52+ Adv.
• 24 Mirage 2000-5 Mk.II
• 6 Rafale F3R
• 35 F-4E PI

The Turkish Air Force has

• 245 F-16C/D
• 48 F-4E Terminator 2020

By the end of the year,we will have 3-4 more Rafale and about 8-9 F-16Vs

If we add a squadron of Mirage 2000-9 to all that,it would be nice.

And our Air Force also has better AA systems than the Turkish one,which is just fielding its first indigenous ones,except the S-400s of course.

And wars are fought by paper tigers. Right. You were also at an advantage in Cyprus till the turks whooped u

 

[Foinikas]

And wars are fought by paper tigers. Right. You were also at an advantage in Cyprus till the turks whooped u

Who told you that we were "at an advantage" in Cyprus? It was the complete opposite. The Turkish forces had the advantage for a number of reasons.

 

[INS_Vikrant]

We have the advantage in the air at least and would like to keep it this way.

You are lucky that Turkey got removed from F35 program, god knows what Erdogan was thinking while signing the S400 deal. Forget F35, now it's hard for them to even get more or upgrade their existing F16 fleet.

 

[Foinikas]

You are lucky that Turkey got removed from F35 program, god knows what Erdogan was thinking while signing the S400 deal. Forget F35, now it's hard for them to even get or upgrade F16Vs.

They had a "**** all" policy. They went to Russia,got S-400s,got kicked out of the program,said we don't care,we'll buy Su-35s and Su-57s,they went to Russia,got back with empty hands,went back to USA,said they want F-16Vs,they got kicked again,they went back to Russia,they got nothing,they said we'll make our own stuff,we don't need any of you. Then they went back to the U.S. and asked for F-16s,to France for SAMP-T and to Russia for more S-400s...

Now they're trying to be friends with everyone again. Suddenly,the Saudi king isn't an oppressor,Sissi isn't a bloodthirsty dictator,Assad isn't a murderous tyrant,the Emiratis are not that bad,the Palestinians are forgotten and Iran isn't "plotting" against Azeri Turkish brothers.

 

[Trango Towers]

Who told you that we were "at an advantage" in Cyprus? It was the complete opposite. The Turkish forces had the advantage for a number of reasons.

Yes thats what men who are defeated say.

 

[Foinikas]

Yes thats what men who are defeated say.

You obviously have no idea about that war. So you're either ignorant or you're trying to flame me.

• The Greek Cypriot side just had a coup and the army and civilians were split between the pro-government and pro-EOKA B factions.
• Some AAA and other heavy weapons were removed from strategic positions.
• The Cypriot National Guard was fighting with T-34-85 (which lacked spare parts and had severe maintainance problems) Marmon Herrington armored cars,BTR-152s,recoiless rifles,bazookas and weapons such as the M1 Garand,Lee-Enfield, Sten,Bren,some MP-40s,some FN FAL and vz.58 rifles against a Turkey armed with M47s,M48s,M113s and G3 rifles.
• The only support that came from mainland Greece were the commandos that were brought in the island in the disastrous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Niki and of course the men of ELDYK.
• The only naval vessels the Cypriot National Guard had,were some old torpedo boats.
• The Turks enjoyed aerial and naval superiority,as the Ioannides junta in Greece didn't send any of the brand new Phantoms or the navy to help the Greek Cypriots.

 

[MMM-E]

We have the advantage in the air at least and would like to keep it this way.

Turkiye has its own new technologies such as KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
First flight : 2023
İn service : 2025

Lenght : 14.7 m
Wingspan : 10 m
Endurance : 5 Hours
Combat radius : 926 km
Service ceiling : 35,000 - 45.000 ft
Cruise speed : mach 1,4 with AI-322F (41 kN) turbofan engine
Payload : 1.500 kg

-- AESA Radar , EOTS
-- Stealth design
-- to carry 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles in the Internal weapon station for stealth flight capability

SELCUK BAYRAKTAR ( Chairman of BAYKARTech )

" When the latest generation sensors and weapons are integrated, KIZILELMA has the potential to shoot down 4th generation fighter jets "

Turkiye to produce 4 KIZILELMA against 1 RAFALE

And our Air Force also has better AA systems than the Turkish one,which is just fielding its first indigenous ones,except the S-400s of course.

Day Dreamer Greeks again wants to get slapped as like 1922 , 1974 , 1996
Know your place with your tiny-weak country

Yesterday , led by Turkish MOD HULUSI AKAR , The Turkish Armed Forces moved to combat operating position for a war

Greece has inferior AA Systems like 160 km PATRIOT , and old S300

Greece has only 325 PAC-II and PAC-III Missiles ... on the other hand , Turkiye produce more 415 SOM Cruise Missiles


Now Turkiye has the best Air Defense capability in EUROPE

-- STINGER and SUNGUR MANPADS
-- KORKUT 35mm SPAAG
-- HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System
-- HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense System
-- S400 long range Air Defense System

-- KORAL and REDET-II Radar Electronic Warfare Systems

-- 600 km BIG BIRD Radar of S400
-- 600 km EIRS Early Warning AESA Radar
-- 600 km PESA Radar of Boeing E-7T AEWCs


250 km 48N6E3 Missiles and 380 Km 40N6E Missiles can turn old MIRAGE-2000 , F-16 , RAFALE into crap of metal

36 Launchers and 192 missiles were delivered to Turkiye
2nd batch ( 36 launchers and 192 missiles ) on agenda



Also Turkiye can destroy Air Bases , Jet Hangars with Fighter Jets , AD Systems in Greece and Greek Islands

Thanks to Turkish Armed Forces Ballistic and Cruise missile fire power which is the best in NATO after USA ,

Thousands of TRLG-230 , TRG-300 , J600T , ATACMS , BORA , SOM , ATMACA , POPEYE , SLAM-ER , JSOW , KGK-LR , SDM-IIR , HARM , SIMSEK , KARGI , HARPOON Block-II in service

also 1.000+ KARA-ATMACA , CAKIR , KUZGUN-TJ , AKBABA missiles in the next 3-5 years


Greeks are still living in 2000s when Turkiye had only POPEYE , SLAM-ER , JSOW , HARM , ATACMS missiles with limited numbers

and when Turkiye had only HAWK Air Defense Systems

 

[Trango Towers]

You obviously have no idea about that war. So you're either ignorant or you're trying to flame me.

• The Greek Cypriot side just had a coup and the army and civilians were split between the pro-government and pro-EOKA B factions.
• Some AAA and other heavy weapons were removed from strategic positions.
• The Cypriot National Guard was fighting with T-34-85 (which lacked spare parts and had severe maintainance problems) Marmon Herrington armored cars,BTR-152s,recoiless rifles,bazookas and weapons such as the M1 Garand,Lee-Enfield, Sten,Bren,some MP-40s,some FN FAL and vz.58 rifles against a Turkey armed with M47s,M48s,M113s and G3 rifles.
• The only support that came from mainland Greece were the commandos that were brought in the island in the disastrous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Niki and of course the men of ELDYK.
• The only naval vessels the Cypriot National Guard had,were some old torpedo boats.
• The Turks enjoyed aerial and naval superiority,as the Ioannides junta in Greece didn't send any of the brand new Phantoms or the navy to help the Greek Cypriots.

My dear... all this info is readily available.
Who asked the Greeks to be racists and do a coup? Your fault.

 

[kingQamaR]

at least Greece is in EU. Turkey has long term foreign debt issues

Neither Greece nor Turkey is worried about a military invasion from the other. Greece is bankrupt and worried about paying its debts, and Turkey is worried about a complex refugee crisis, and instability to the south of its own borders. Oh, and Turkey also wants to be in the EU, but that's probably not going to happen of racism not on its economics strength

 

[Foinikas]

Neither Greece nor Turkey is worried about a military invasion from the other. Greece is bankrupt and worried about paying its debts, and Turkey is worried about a complex refugee crisis, and instability to the south of its own borders. Oh, and Turkey also wants to be in the EU, but that's probably not going to happen of racism not on its economics strength

At some point this idiotic narration of "Greece is bankrupt" has to stop. Greece has been out of the IMF and the EU stopped checking us on the matter. The country has made a comeback since 2019-2020. Right now,the one who is having an economic crisis is Turkey,with 150% inflation and population complaining about food prices,salaries and pensions.

All the while,the AKP government is deep in corruption and burdering the country further by spending money in all the gazillion military projects the forum salesman mentions every time,in his posts.

Turkey does not want to be in the EU. If Turkey wanted to be in the EU,they would have complied with all the demands of the EU back in the 2000s. They never really wanted to get in the EU. It has nothing to do with "racism". Simply,every time Erdogan complained about Brusseles not letting Turkey in the EU,he would do something that enraged the Western and Central Europeans. Something about human rights,something about women,some provocation,some diplomatic incident.

He always kept saying he wants to get in the EU,while walking at the opposite direction.