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President Erdoğan insults Kurds in Turkey over their fertility rate
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Turkish autocratic President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s controversial remarks on Friday about birth rates in Turkey in which he urged “Muslim” women to deliver more babies because “the terrorists” were bearing at least “10 to 15 children” draws ire from opposition circles in the country.

According to a report by online news outlet Kurdistan24 on Saturday, Erdogan’s remarks have been interpreted as not targeting the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which bars its militants from any sexual or marital relations, but the Kurdish population in Turkey given the annual fertility rates per province.

“What do our god and prophet say? The order is pretty clear. Get married and reproduce. It is imperative that Muslims reproduce. I trust Muslim women’s sensitivity on this issue,” he told a meeting of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) in İstanbul. “The terrorist group in Turkey is very sensitive on this. They have at least 10 to 15 children,” Erdoğan said, without specifying which group he meant in his televised speech.

Turkey’s main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) deputy chairman Mehmet Bekaroğlu questioned Erdoğan’s words and said in his Twitter account that “He is not talking about the Kurds but the terrorists. Is that so? Have the terrorists laid down weapons and started making babies? Is this where we have come? President is saying Kurds are giving birth to too many babies, you do the same.”

According to Turkish Statistical Institute, the first ten provinces with the highest total fertility rates in 2016 were Kurdish-dominated ones, among them Şanlıurfa, Ağrı, Siirt, Şırnak, Muş, Bitlis, Mardin, Van, Diyarbakır and Batman. With a total fertility rate of 4,33, Şanlıurfa was twice the national average which stood at 2,10 while the other Kurdish-dominated provinces making to top ten were all above 3,10.


The pro-Kurdish Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP) spokesperson Ayhan Bilgen has also criticised President Erdoğan and called his comments as “fascism.” “How are the conservative Kurds going to interpret this,” he asked, pointing out to the fact that Erdoğan’s ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) received significant electoral support from Kurds who prioritize their Muslim identity over a national cause.

HDP’s Co-leader Serpil Kemalbay accused Erdoğan of enmity toward the Kurdish people and described his rhetoric as racist. “He is saying if you call yourself Kurdish then you are not Muslim. This is a poisonous, provocative language. We have to stand up to politicians who otherize,” she told a public rally in Diyarbakır.

Erdoğan earlier this year called on millions-strong Turkish diaspora in European countries to have five children and not “at least three” as he has been urging since 2008.
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“What do our god and prophet say? The order is pretty clear. Get married and reproduce. It is imperative that Muslims reproduce. I trust Muslim women’s sensitivity on this issue,” he told a meeting of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) in İstanbul

ye aadmi meri shaadi kara kar rahega
 
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Make more kids to fight terrorists (Kurds of Turkey, in this case)? Is this for real? Is this the way how a top leader of a country speaks? He sounds like his ultra-zealot brethren who dream of taking over Russia and Europe via population boom.

As if population boom can beat science and technology boom.

When brain fails to create technology and ensure development, what remains is to use other body parts (which may not require much IQ) and make babies to beat development.

That's so Darks Ages, and, in fact, I may have insulted Dark Ages, because it was not dark at all if you ask Fritjof Schuon.

This statement by the top Turkey leader will embolden pro-Kurdistan forces in Turkey and all around the world.

I am not sure how Turks still get along with such a reckless and destructive leadership. Hopefully, in their next elections, they will make a complete house-cleaning and put there some scientific-minded person.
 
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Make more kids to fight terrorists (Kurds of Turkey, in this case)? Is this for real? Does this how a top leader of a country speak? He sounds like his ultra-zealot brethren who dream of taking over Russia and Europe via population boom.

As if population boom can beat science and technology boom.

When brain fails to create technology and ensure development, what remains is to use other body parts (which may not require much IQ) and make babies to beat development.

That's so Darks Ages, and, in fact, I may have insulted Dark Ages, because it was not dark at all if you ask Fritjof Schuon.

This statement by the top Turkey leader will embolden pro-Kurdistan forces in Turkey and all around the world.

I am not sure how Turks still get along with such a reckless and destructive leadership. Hopefully, in their next elections, they will make a complete house-cleaning and put there some scientific-minded person.
Turkey will go forward with their Army technology research as they will sell more their AESA radars or drones and so on..
They need more people, as if you have low fertility, as in your country, you will end up paying more pension in the future, and your economy will shrink.. as in Japan
you just need a little piece of brain to get it..
 
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Turkey can go ahead with its whatever technology (although not known as a technology haven).

Nonetheless, again, the president's proposal to beat domestic terrorists and foreign enemies by simply multiplying is too Middle Ages.

The world has moved beyond that. Quality over sheer quantity is preferred - unless one is entirely desperate for survival. Then, quantity might matter.

Why not ask people to create tech technologies instead of bargaining on three or five kids?

Turkey may need a more secular president with a certain level of university education, background in certain science and vision for future.

Beating our enemy by multiplying may not be the best election program. One, too easy. Two, may create demographic time bombs.

Besides, Turks have very little chance to beat Kurds and Syrian Arabs in multiplying game. I believe the developed and secular parts of the country has already left that archaic thinking behind.

It would be terrible for Turkey to think otherwise.
 
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Turkey will go forward with their Army technology research as they will sell more their AESA radars or drones and so on..
They need more people, as if you have low fertility, as in your country, you will end up paying more pension in the future, and your economy will shrink.. as in Japan
you just need a little piece of brain to get it..
Don't worry my Turkish brother. We will clone ourselves with enhanced traits when our population falls too low.
 
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They should send them to America, partners making 10 kids and not able to nurture that amount of kids. Most of them end in the mountains or in the criminal world. Kurds taking 2 or 3 women, why are you stupid americans now conserned about kurds with 10 or 15 kids with 2/3 wifes?:-)
 
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Don't worry my Turkish brother. We will clone ourselves with enhanced traits when our population falls too low.
actually, most companies invest based on fetility too as it shows that there will be more young people to sepnd and increase sales annually... of course it is also questionable based on situation..
 
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Make more kids to fight terrorists (Kurds of Turkey, in this case)? Is this for real? Does this how a top leader of a country speak? He sounds like his ultra-zealot brethren who dream of taking over Russia and Europe via population boom.

As if population boom can beat science and technology boom.

When brain fails to create technology and ensure development, what remains is to use other body parts (which may not require much IQ) and make babies to beat development.

That's so Darks Ages, and, in fact, I may have insulted Dark Ages, because it was not dark at all if you ask Fritjof Schuon.

This statement by the top Turkey leader will embolden pro-Kurdistan forces in Turkey and all around the world.

I am not sure how Turks still get along with such a reckless and destructive leadership. Hopefully, in their next elections, they will make a complete house-cleaning and put there some scientific-minded person.


yeah something for china, clean your leader put something scientific minded person.:-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-child_policy#China
 
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Kurds are just like Palestinians like yasir Arafat said the womb of the arab women is my greatest weapon
 
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Kurds are just like Palestinians like yasir Arafat said the womb of the arab women is my greatest weapon

But nothing changes on the ground. Science beat population boom. It is incredible, in this age, a top leader asks for population boom to beat "our enemies."

He is basically asking for more people that are readily available to die. And he mentions beating domestic enemies. That's scary.

Asking for more people to support pension system would make pragmatic sense. But, I guess, Turkey already has no problem on that side.

That's why I am actually very impressed at the election proposals made by the leading opposition candidate of Turkey (Mr. Ince?). So scientific, realist, down to earth, and visionary. He even sounds at times like our pragmatic East Asian leaders. I guess Turks are lucky to have someone in that caliber to run for president.

But I am not sure Turks are lucky enough to elect him the president.

The current president of Turkey is a blessing for the enemies of Turkey. If I had ill intentions against Turkey (I have no reason to develop sentiments as it does not affect my life in any sense other than scholarly interest), I would wish the current president of Turkey wins the elections.
 
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I am not sure how Turks still get along with such a reckless and destructive leadership. Hopefully, in their next elections, they will make a complete house-cleaning and put there some scientific-minded person.

They will wake up , but when its too late ... just like us ....
 
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