President Bhutto Apologises to West Germany Over Behavior of Pakistan Hockey Players 1972

[Samlee]

Qualities like completely ruining the nation?

I Never Said He Was An Angel

The greatest leader we ever had. A Messiah for the disadvantaged, an enemy to the capitalists, elite and bourgeoisie ....

Red salute to the comrade.

True But Nationalization Was A Patently Absurd Idea.Pushed Us Half A Century Back.

Including nationalizing companies like BECO and absolutely destroying them and we still suffer and also delaying in UN in 1971 and introducing socialism and it's cancers , murdering people using his personal police
Perfect guy

Agreed

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

He was definitely intelligent and very confident guy. The last intelligent ruler of Pakistan was Gen. Zia ul Haq. After him Pakistan only got midgets pretending to be leaders.

Imran Niazi is a Midget?

 

[SIPRA]

Trolling aside, this term manjan bechna means " whatever people are discussing, you jump in with your own genda" . It's an idiom.

Of course, I know the meanings of the idiom "manjan baichna". My question was that what kind of "manjan", the referred poster sells; since I have not read much of his comments.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Of course, I know the meanings of the idiom "manjan baichna". My question was that what kind of "manjan", the referred poster sells; since I have not read much of his comments.

He hates main stream Islam. So whenever some terms like mullah, quraan or sharia comes, here he or like him come into picture to beat the drums. So it is like that. There are many like him here.

 

[SIPRA]

He hates main stream Islam. So whenever some terms like mullah, quraan or sharia comes, here he or like him come into picture to beat the drums. So it is like that. There are many like him here.

OK. I got it. Thanks.
Off the topic: Whose image is on your avatar? If I may ask.

 

[fitpOsitive]

OK. I got it. Thanks.
Off the topic: Whose image is on your avatar? If I may ask.

It's a child, whose skin colour is black, yet he is beautiful and seems happy. So, it's a sign that be happy, no matter what people think about you. I don't know this child, though.

 

[M. Sarmad]

True But Nationalization Was A Patently Absurd Idea.Pushed Us Half A Century Back.

The 1970 Election Manifesto of Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) promised to its voters Nationalization of all major industries [(iv)(b)] and Money institutions [(v)(a)] once it came to power... The country’s mid-1960s middle-class had developed youthful romance with leftist ideals..... The people/voters at that time didn't find this idea patently absurd and voted overwhelmingly to elect ZAB. He only delivered what he had promised... As they say hindsight is always 20/20, but considering the prevailing circumstances of those times, one could argue that Bhutto did the right thing. Also, ZAB had inherited an economy ravaged by an exhaustive war. There are times in the life of a nation when extraordinary circumstances call for extraordinary measures... The economic stats of Pakistan between 1972 and 1974 show that ZAB actually did a rather remarkable job.

 

[SIPRA]

The 1970 Election Manifesto of Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) promised to its voters Nationalization of all major industries [(iv)(b)] and Money institutions [(v)(a)] once it came to power... The country’s mid-1960s middle-class had developed youthful romance with leftist ideals..... The people/voters at that time didn't find this idea patently absurd and voted overwhelmingly to elect ZAB. He only delivered what he had promised... As they say hindsight is always 20/20, but considering the prevailing circumstances of those times, Bhutto did the right thing. Also, ZAB had inherited an economy ravaged by an exhaustive war. There are times in the life of a nation when extraordinary circumstances call for extraordinary measures... The economic stats of Pakistan between 1972 and 1974 show that ZAB actually did a rather remarkable job.

You are right. But I think that one of his biggest mistakes was, and that is not in hindsight, that, in his nationalization program, he wet far far beyond the original provisions of Election Manifesto, possibly on the instigation of the arch socialists like Dr. Mubashar Hasan, K H Mir and the likes. I believe that in these times, perhaps, he largely ignored the counsels of the moderate elements of the PPP. This unwarranted extension, of the limited original nationalization program, actually hit the Pakistan hard. As for your saying that, in spite of all this, "ZAB actually did a rather remarkable job"; it was owing to, no doubt, his extraordinary abilities and hard work.

 

[M. Sarmad]

You are right. But I think that one of his biggest mistakes was, and that is not in hindsight, that, in his nationalization program, he wet far far beyond the original provisions of Election Manifesto, possibly on the instigation of the arch socialists like Dr. Mubashar Hasan, K H Mir and the likes. I believe that in these times, perhaps, he largely ignored the counsels of the moderate elements of the PPP. This unwarranted extension, of the limited original nationalization program, actually hit the Pakistan hard. As for your saying that, in spite of all this, "ZAB actually did a rather remarkable job"; it was owing to, no doubt, his extraordinary abilities and hard work.

Quite the contrary, Bhutto had actually launched a purge in PPP expelling arch socialists like Malik Miraj Khalid and others (Dr. Mubashar Hasan resigned). He supported IJT against NSF. While Party's 1970 Election Manifesto promised both Islam and Socialism to its voters, Bhutto, after coming into power, decided to use Islam as the official legitimizing strategy for all political maneuvers. In his attempt to outislam the Islamists, he inadvertently institutionalized Mullahism.

As for his 'original promises/provisions' of Election Manifesto, I don't think he went far far beyond:
http://bhutto.org/Acrobat/Manifestos of Pakistan Peoples Party.pdf

 

[Crusher]

You are right. But I think that one of his biggest mistakes was, and that is not in hindsight, that, in his nationalization program, he wet far far beyond the original provisions of Election Manifesto, possibly on the instigation of the arch socialists like Dr. Mubashar Hasan, K H Mir and the likes. I believe that in these times, perhaps, he largely ignored the counsels of the moderate elements of the PPP. This unwarranted extension, of the limited original nationalization program, actually hit the Pakistan hard. As for your saying that, in spite of all this, "ZAB actually did a rather remarkable job"; it was owing to, no doubt, his extraordinary abilities and hard work.

His nationalization of private educational institutions was the right step, it contributed positively to increase the literacy rate of Pakistan at that time which was pretty low before 70s, also nationalization of private educational institutions brought the fees down to negligible amount which also incentivized the poor to send their children to schools, colleges and universities.
His nationalization of private industry was a disaster, that was the wrong kind of nationalization because you don't help anyone if you nationalize an efficiently functioning private industry. A sick private industrial large company/organization could be nationalized for purpose of national social solidarity to save the jobs of the work force of that organization. But it is ridiculous to nationalize an efficiently functioning private industrial company and then take all the headache to keep that company successful, it is a big task over the long term.