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Pregnant Texas woman says unborn baby should count as car passenger after receiving HOV ticket.

This woman is a genius and about to start a whole new debate and ruling that could end up being decided in the Supreme Court.

Pregnant Texas woman says unborn baby should count as car passenger after receiving HOV ticket​


A pregnant Texas woman said her unborn baby should count as a second passenger in her vehicle, citing Texas' penal code in the wake of Roe v. Wade being overturned, after receiving a ticket.

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Brandy Bottone, 32, of Plano, Texas, was pulled over on June 29 after driving in an HOV lane, or high-occupancy vehicle land, according to NBC-DFW. Bottone was stopped by a Dallas County Sheriff Department who was looking for drivers violating the HOV lane rules.

The HOV lane requires drivers to have at least one passenger in their car while using the lane.

When the sheriff's deputy told Bottone of the rule, she said she did, in fact, have a second occupant in her car — her unborn baby.

"I pointed to my stomach and said, ‘My baby girl is right here. She is a person,'" Bottone told The Dallas Morning News, who first reported the story.

The officer responded that the rule applies to "two people outside of the body."

Bottone, who was 34 weeks pregnant at the time, told the officers that with the overturning of Roe v. Wade, her unborn child now was recognized as a living person. The U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in a June 24 decision.

'And then I said, ‘Well [I’m] not trying to throw a political mix here, but with everything going on, this counts as a baby,'" Bottone told NBC-DFW.

Bottone recalled to the Morning News that the officer told her he didn't "want to deal with this" and insisted that the law for HOV lanes required there to be "two persons outside of the body."

Although the penal code in Texas currently recognizes a fetus as a person, it appears there's no language in the Texas Department of Transportation's code that recognizes a fetus as a person or a passenger.

Representatives for Dallas County Sheriff’s Department and the Texas Department of Transportation did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Deputies told Bottone that if she fought the ticket, it would likely be dismissed. She now plans to fight the $215 ticket with the argument her in-utero baby should count as another occupant of her vehicle.

"This has my blood boiling. How could this be fair? According to the new law, this is a life," Bottone told the Morning News. "I know this may fall on deaf ears, but as a woman, this was shocking."

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215$ ?!?! Oh my...

I know, right. They're VERY serious about that lane and even post a state trooper during both, morning and afternoon rush hour traffic here in MA.

As a matter of fact, this guy tried faking the cops with this mannequin and got busted a few years ago. This was also here in MA. This is actually an arrestable offense.


When they first built the I-93 overpass at the start of this mega Boston tunnel project in the late 80's, they opened the first HOV lane and the first guy who tried to fake a 2nd person with a dummy was actually arrested and was on every local news channel.
 
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This woman is a genius and about to start a whole new debate and ruling that could end up being decided in the Supreme Court.

Pregnant Texas woman says unborn baby should count as car passenger after receiving HOV ticket​


A pregnant Texas woman said her unborn baby should count as a second passenger in her vehicle, citing Texas' penal code in the wake of Roe v. Wade being overturned, after receiving a ticket.

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Brandy Bottone, 32, of Plano, Texas, was pulled over on June 29 after driving in an HOV lane, or high-occupancy vehicle land, according to NBC-DFW. Bottone was stopped by a Dallas County Sheriff Department who was looking for drivers violating the HOV lane rules.

The HOV lane requires drivers to have at least one passenger in their car while using the lane.

When the sheriff's deputy told Bottone of the rule, she said she did, in fact, have a second occupant in her car — her unborn baby.

"I pointed to my stomach and said, ‘My baby girl is right here. She is a person,'" Bottone told The Dallas Morning News, who first reported the story.

The officer responded that the rule applies to "two people outside of the body."

Bottone, who was 34 weeks pregnant at the time, told the officers that with the overturning of Roe v. Wade, her unborn child now was recognized as a living person. The U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in a June 24 decision.

'And then I said, ‘Well [I’m] not trying to throw a political mix here, but with everything going on, this counts as a baby,'" Bottone told NBC-DFW.

Bottone recalled to the Morning News that the officer told her he didn't "want to deal with this" and insisted that the law for HOV lanes required there to be "two persons outside of the body."

Although the penal code in Texas currently recognizes a fetus as a person, it appears there's no language in the Texas Department of Transportation's code that recognizes a fetus as a person or a passenger.

Representatives for Dallas County Sheriff’s Department and the Texas Department of Transportation did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Deputies told Bottone that if she fought the ticket, it would likely be dismissed. She now plans to fight the $215 ticket with the argument her in-utero baby should count as another occupant of her vehicle.

"This has my blood boiling. How could this be fair? According to the new law, this is a life," Bottone told the Morning News. "I know this may fall on deaf ears, but as a woman, this was shocking."

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Hmm...being a complete a-hole for 32 years in Texas and not getting shot by anybody...that's impressive.
 
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Hmm...being a complete a-hole for 32 years in Texas and not getting shot by anybody...that's impressive.

What did you mean by that, bro? She was an a-hole for 32 years?! I'm lost man, fill me in.

I thought it was genius of her to tell the cop that, considering the new SCOTUS ruling on Roe vs. Wade. If she was 34 weeks pregnant, that's what 8-1/2 months or so, right? So that baby is about to pop out into this God-forsaken world and claim he's the boss. I think she's absolutely right that it is considered an additional person and brilliant to throw that at the cop.

When the cop said to her it needs to be two persons "outside the body" it's like wuuuut?! No friggin' way and that's one of the many problems with these cops is they go around making laws that don't exist to get their way, jerks. But I'm curious what you're talking about because I have no idea lol.
 
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I know, right. They're VERY serious about that lane and even post a state trooper during both, morning and afternoon rush hour traffic here in MA.

As a matter of fact, this guy tried faking the cops with this mannequin and got busted a few years ago. This was also here in MA. This is actually an arrestable offense.


When they first built the I-93 overpass at the start of this mega Boston tunnel project in the late 80's, they opened the first HOV lane and the first guy who tried to fake a 2nd person with a dummy was actually arrested and was on every local news channel.
Hahaha this is amazing 🤣
 
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What did you mean by that, bro? She was an a-hole for 32 years?! I'm lost man, fill me in.

I thought it was genius of her to tell the cop that, considering the new SCOTUS ruling on Roe vs. Wade. If she was 34 weeks pregnant, that's what 8-1/2 months or so, right? So that baby is about to pop out into this God-forsaken world and claim he's the boss. I think she's absolutely right that it is considered an additional person and brilliant to throw that at the cop.

When the cop said to her it needs to be two persons "outside the body" it's like wuuuut?! No friggin' way and that's one of the many problems with these cops is they go around making laws that don't exist to get their way, jerks. But I'm curious what you're talking about because I have no idea lol.

Well I guess it depends if this was a planned out legal challenge (which would be rather funny and puts the state in a conundrum over HOV lane rules as any woman could claim she is pregnant to dodge a ticket) or just some excuse an obnoxious Karen (she certainly looks like one) put together at the spur of the moment to argue her way out of a ticket.
 
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This reminds me of a case in Malaysia.

Malaysia requires Helmets when riding a motor bike. But Sikh man wears turban and can't wear a helmet.
So the law states "All Sikh wearing a turban are exempted from wearing a helmet".
Nothing wrong, right ?

Well, one day a police pull over a lady wearing a turban. Women never ever wear a turban so she was pulled over and was given a ticket for not wearing a helmet.

But apparently the lady was a Sikh. She is a Sikh and she is wearing a turban so...go figure.

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This reminds me of a case in Malaysia.

Malaysia requires Helmets when riding a motor bike. But Sikh man wears turban and can't wear a helmet.
So the law states "All Sikh wearing a turban are exempted from wearing a helmet".
Nothing wrong, right ?

Well, one day a police pull over a lady wearing a turban. Women never ever wear a turban so she was pulled over and was given a ticket for not wearing a helmet.

But apparently the lady was a Sikh. She is a Sikh and she is wearing a turban so...go figure.

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I think practicing Sikh women wear a turban too

It just looks a bit different
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