Pregnant Lioness Refuses To Eat Chicken Served After UP Slaughterhouse Crackdown

[Lotus_stalk]

Honestly buddy, all my hyperbole aside, I love Hindus. I am proud of my civilization. I just find Hindutvawadi pustules as ugly and repulsive as Islamist or Christian pustules. Hope that explains my current piss off. I want a pustule mukt Bharat. Will you join me to make it happen? Why should I be happy if the pride and confidence of 80% of my brothers is crushed? How do we compete internationally? But should I feel happy if they are now obviously targeting me and those like me? Socho ....

@Soumitra

That said, there is tremendous resentment here too about food being taken from our mouths. Targeting butchers and abattoirs now. It's obvious Hindus feel they have the upper hand, the numbers, and are trying to trigger riots. Anyone can see that.

You are pushing us to the point that when the Hindutva leadership at the center goes, in 2019 or otherwise (we can wait and bide our time), there will be a rebound payback.

That is the Indian way.

Cheers buddy.

Top 10 Beef exporters are owned by Hindus, how come Muslims are being targeted ? Only illegal slaughter houses are being closed. Convert your illegal slaughter houses into legal ones, then apply for license.

Dangers of Illegal slaughter houses:
Cattle smuggling: If one allows illegal or unregulated slaughterhouses, there is no way to ascertain the conditions in which the animals are kept and the source from which the animals are procured. In the absence of the same, possibility of illegal slaughterhouses being complicit in cattle smuggling arises. Cattle is often the only asset or one of the main assets for rural or semi-urban families. Imagine losing an important asset like your house to a financial fraud; for these families, losing the cattle could mean something similar. This is why we often hear news about skirmishes and even bloody violence related to cattle smuggling from the hinterland.

Loss of revenue to the government: While there are speculations of revenue loss due to negative impact on meat industry (with assumptions of all slaughterhouses being closed), there is another aspect to it. Government is already losing a lot of revenue due to functioning of illegal slaughterhouses as they are not disclosing all the details about their operations. Some reports suggest there was only 1 legal slaughterhouse in the state out of a total 126 surveyed. So factoring in the whole of UP, there is substantial loss of revenue to the government exchequer already.

Environmental hazards: Maintaining a slaughterhouse invariably leads to environmental hazards. Alive animals produce solid and liquid waste, which is rarely treated and properly disposed off in illegal slaughterhouses. After their death, the blood mixed water and animal carcass, if not properly disposed off, causes further health and environmental hazards. Any slaughtering activity leaves behind large quantities of by-products like bones, lungs spleen, oesophagus etc. which won’t pose a hazard if they are processed and suitably utilised, but unregulated and illegal slaughterhouses could dump them carelessly causing further environmental and health hazards.

Hazardous work conditions: Not just animals, but the employees too are impacted in illegal slaughterhouses. Considering a general case, a report about US slaughterhouses talked about the slaughterhouses hiring undocumented workers who themselves were subjected to injuries due to a lack of safety equipment. The Prevention of Cruelty against Animals act specifies how the handler needs to be at least 18 years of age and not be suffering from any communicable diseases. Plus the handlers need to have a license before they can work in a slaughterhouse. An illegal slaughterhouse will hardly care to follow these rules.

Being legal doesn’t mean all’s well: Even if a licensed slaughterhouse is being operated in an area, its by no means necessary that it is ascribing to the Prevention of Cruelty against Animals act. At one legal slaughterhouse in Delhi, authorities on an inspection found loads of violations by the slaughterhouse authorities, which included electrocuting animals instead of stunning and having dismal hygiene. If such is the case in a legal and licensed slaughterhouse, one can only wonder about what goes on in the illegal and unregulated ones.

 

[Upagrah]

Nobody can stip anyone of his/her citizenship..if he/she is born in the land. I dont see anything wrong in what @adil_minhas is upset about. I understand the not eating Cow part..but what has that got to do with Beef (They are other form of beef as well)....Read between the lines, to what he is trying to say. Being the majority it is only right that the grievances are understood from the other person's perspective as well. India is and should always be a land where no person should be prosecuted on the basis of religion..just my 2 cents.

Of course they can. What do you think a "death sentence" is ?

There are multiple ways to remove someone from society. Like send them to jail, or hang them or exile them etc. The philosophy behind of all these methods are the same. To remove that person from society/state.

E.g. Found of MIM, kasim Razvi was stripped of his Indian citizenship and kicked out of India.

You want to live in society, you will HAVE to live by its code. Its not a "choice" you make, its not optional.

The only grievance that needs to be understood is those that fall within the confines of the law. And if any of his legal right is being violated then he can approach the courts. If not then he can vote for a candidate of his choice.

There is no need for ANYONE to bend over backward to "accommodate" him. What he needs is a swift kick in the @ss and yogi just delivered it to him and he does not like it.

So far no one is being persecuted on the basis of religion,unless you are claiming eating beef is mandatory in his religion ... If such a religion exist, that religion is unlawful under the Indian constitution. So those who cannot live under the constitution of India need to leave it ASAP.

Honestly buddy, all my hyperbole aside, I love Hindus. I am proud of my civilization. I just find Hindutvawadi pustules as ugly and repulsive as Islamist or Christian pustules. Hope that explains my current piss off. I want a pustule mukt Bharat. Will you join me to make it happen? Why should I be happy if the pride and confidence of 80% of my brothers is crushed? How do we compete internationally? But should I feel happy if they are now obviously targeting me and those like me? Socho ....

@Soumitra

That said, there is tremendous resentment here too about food being taken from our mouths. Targeting butchers and abattoirs now. It's obvious Hindus feel they have the upper hand, the numbers, and are trying to trigger riots. Anyone can see that.

You are pushing us to the point that when the Hindutva leadership at the center goes, in 2019 or otherwise (we can wait and bide our time), there will be a rebound payback.

That is the Indian way.

Cheers buddy.

Without the hyperbol there is no substance to your post.

You are not required to be happy. You are only required to follow the law.

You are free to resent, hate, curse and make voodoo dolls of yogi and poke it with hot needles. All those are sanctioned by the law.

Riots however and illegal and unlawful. But if you want to start it, be my guest. I suspect like Modi, Yogi will be the one to end it this time. Of that you can be sure.

This is not the SP or congress govt. where you could get away with a Riot or two and cry "victim". So do your best.

 

[DineshS]

Riots however and illegal and unlawful. But if you want to start it, be my guest. I suspect like Modi, Yogi will be the one to end it this time. Of that you can be sure.

hehe

That's probably the biggest grouse of sickulars...
They have gotten away with so much for so long, they can't digest the fact of facing their opponents on an even field.

I was reading a post in Huffington post on how "good" a person Aurangzeb was and I was thinking WTF had the author smoked.

 

[Upagrah]

hehe

That's probably the biggest grouse of sickulars...
They have gotten away with so much for so long, they can't digest the fact of facing their opponents on an even field.

I was reading a post in Huffington post on how "good" a person Aurangzeb was and I was thinking WTF had the author smoked.

I still cannot get over how Akbar became "great"

Apparently he is "great" because he demolished only a few temples, not a 1000

That is the kid of bar set for "greatness" in "secular" India.

 

[DineshS]

I still cannot get over how Akbar became "great"

Apparently he is "great" because he demolished only a few temples, not a 1000

That is the kid of bar set for "greatness" in "secular" India.

Yup, He was relatively less disgusting than say like a fundamentalist like Aurangzeb.
Akbar being a drug addled idiot, always under influence of drugs could have distracted him from his dastardliness..

 

[Upagrah]

Yup, He was relatively less disgusting than say like a fundamentalist like Aurangzeb.
Akbar being a drug addled idiot, always under influence of drugs could have distracted him from his dastardliness..

You forget his harem of 5000 women and his 35 wives who kept him busy.

Another path to "greatness" in "secular" India.

 

[DineshS]

You forget his harem of 5000 women and his 35 wives who kept him busy.

Another path to "greatness" in "secular" India.

And Jodha Akbar is a "GREAT" love story for Indian sickulars

 

[Upagrah]

And Jodha Akbar is a "GREAT" love story for Indian sickulars

The real story should have been 'choda akbar'

BTW Jodha was the wife of Jahangir, and daughter in Law of Akbar.

Trust "secular" historians to twist this around and make a mockery of history.

 

[adil_minhas]

I see us heading for some tough questions and tougher solutions if this beef bs continues:

1) Govt. to provide Indian Muslim community with imported beef stock from large beef rearing countries.

2) Each state to have a beef cooperative set up officially to be manned and supervised and run by Muslims.

3) Land under government project rules to be procured for said beef farm and abattoir cooperatives.

4) While foreign cows acclimatize to our climate and feed (a few generations minimum), government to provide suitable red meat substitute like lamb/mutton at central/state subsidized pre ban beef rates, for the common man

5) Additional land and funds and seed substitute livestock to be procured, sanctioned and provided by government, along with advanced animal husbandry technology and machinery (including for slaughter, processing and packaging)

6) Government to float tender bid processes RFAs for private players to enter this field and participate

Cheers, and kudos.

@gayMo

Your inputs and suggestions?

 

[gayMo]

@gayMo

Your inputs and suggestions?

I think these are constructive and great suggestions. I would keep it secular regarding your point havibg Muslims to supervise because south indian Hindus, Christians and NE eat beef.maybe for halal compliance you could have a Muslim, but in general if secular we will learn to respect one another. E.g. I used to say temples should have Muslim and Christian trustees and church and mosques to have Hindu members on adminjstration just so tgat we know each other.
Also clearly mention what kind of cattle can be used for beef. And also penalties. I like the point on subsidized mutton until this is resolved. Btw why is mutton costlier?
On the whole whatever rules are made there will be *** holes from either side trying to create teouble. The people should learn to look through it and call their bluff by not reacting.

Of course they can. What do you think a "death sentence" is ?

There are multiple ways to remove someone from society. Like send them to jail, or hang them or exile them etc. The philosophy behind of all these methods are the same. To remove that person from society/state.

E.g. Found of MIM, kasim Razvi was stripped of his Indian citizenship and kicked out of India.

You want to live in society, you will HAVE to live by its code. Its not a "choice" you make, its not optional.

The only grievance that needs to be understood is those that fall within the confines of the law. And if any of his legal right is being violated then he can approach the courts. If not then he can vote for a candidate of his choice.

There is no need for ANYONE to bend over backward to "accommodate" him. What he needs is a swift kick in the @ss and yogi just delivered it to him and he does not like it.

So far no one is being persecuted on the basis of religion,unless you are claiming eating beef is mandatory in his religion ... If such a religion exist, that religion is unlawful under the Indian constitution. So those who cannot live under the constitution of India need to leave it ASAP.



Without the hyperbol there is no substance to your post.

You are not required to be happy. You are only required to follow the law.

You are free to resent, hate, curse and make voodoo dolls of yogi and poke it with hot needles. All those are sanctioned by the law.

Riots however and illegal and unlawful. But if you want to start it, be my guest. I suspect like Modi, Yogi will be the one to end it this time. Of that you can be sure.

This is not the SP or congress govt. where you could get away with a Riot or two and cry "victim". So do your best.

Very inflammatory post. Why are you purposely needling him.

 

[adil_minhas]

I think these are constructive and great suggestions. I would keep it secular regarding your point havibg Muslims to supervise because south indian Hindus, Christians and BE ear beef.maybe for halal compliance you could have a Muslim, but in general if secular we will learn to respect one another. E.g. I used to say temples should have Muslim and Christian trustees and church and mosques to have Hindu members on adminjstration just so tgat we know each other.
Also clearly mention what kind of cattle can be used for beef. And also penalties. I like the point on subsidized mutton until this is resolved. Btw why is mutton costlier?
On the whole whatever rules are made there will be *** holes from either side trying to create teouble. The people should learn to look through it and call their bluff by not reacting.

Your point on the secular workforce is a great one.

I was thinking more along the lines of government formalizing employment for Muslim butchers and meat handlers across the country, with benefits, clean work environment, training on advanced techniques and machinery, etc. But yes, it should be open to poor of all communities. Would provide huge employment, similar to programs like MNREGA.

Mutton is expensive because the animal is small. And it takes nearly the same amount of time and womb space to make a cow or a goat. We are a huge country. Many hungryoiths to feed. Beef is not a luxury juicy steak meat for us like it western countries. It is simply more meat per animal.

You are correct on the species to be imported. In poor Asian and African countries, it's the concept of one cow does all. Milk and meat both. Hence the natural tussle between vegetarians dependent on dairy and meat eaters on the other side.

Abroad in the West there are specific breeds reared for milk and dairy and very specific beef breeds reared only for the quality of their meat. I might be wrong but I've read somewhere that they are even fed different. Grain vs grass.

 

[gayMo]

No one has any problem with bigoted politicians. They don't touch our lives at all.

But bigoted people do.

I am losing my faith in Modi rapidly.

The demonetisation left a dirty taste in my mouth when I saw what was happening around me. And heard.

Then the budget which just massacred me. I'm allowed to look at things micro when it hits my own wallet.

Then the ongoing Hindutva brigade. Ghar wapsi. Beef politics. Love jihad. Romeo squads. Textbook changes. Godmen selling snake oil. Filthy comments in public. Violence against Muslims. Its going on. And he just does not speak. He is the PM. Who will speak? Or is he going to do a Gujarat on India now?

Then this Yogi BS in UP. Again they will start the Mandir thing. Again the country will bleed and burn.

Jumping from one country to another. Same crappy lines I am getting sick of. Not a whit of difference on the ground here in India. Economy flagging. Industrial production flagging. Balls Make in India happening. Balls Swacch Bharat happening.

We were looted by the UPA. But we saw 9+% growth three consecutive years. What is Modi's score in these three years??

Its time for him to go.

Sorry I don't agree on Modi ... There are long term progressive work he is doing on the governance and financial front. Congress ruled when the whole world was booming. So they ruined the economy with freebies and bad economics while looting the country. Now the world is a really crappy place economically and India is the lone bright star. The effects of demo is yet to be fully underatood. I do understand that there are people who suffered but there were alternativez. Anyway... It's a different discussion... cheers

Your point on the secular workforce is a great one.

I was thinking more along the lines of government formalizing employment for Muslim butchers and meat handlers across the country, with benefits, clean work environment, training on advanced techniques and machinery, etc. But yes, it should be open to poor of all communities. Would provide huge employment, similar to programs like MNREGA.

Mutton is expensive because the animal is small. And it takes nearly the same amount of time and womb space to make a cow or a goat. We are a huge country. Many hungryoiths to feed. Beef is not a luxury juicy steak meat for us like it western countries. It is simply more meat per animal.

You are correct on the species to be imported. In poor Asian and African countries, it's the concept of one cow does all. Milk and meat both. Hence the natural tussle between vegetarians dependent on dairy and meat eaters on the other side.

Abroad in the West there are specific breeds reared for milk and dairy and very specific beef breeds reared only for the quality of their meat. I might be wrong but I've read somewhere that they are even fed different. Grain vs grass.

Hope for the best and quick resolution with no long term hate.

 

[lightoftruth]

1) We do not trust Hindus. We see Indian polity and law makers as prima Hindu. We are on board following laws common for all citizens. But marrying among ourselves, divorcing, bequeathing wealth and property. What business does the state or any Indian have with that? Lay off. Our personal business.

2) If our women have problems, we solve it among ourselves. You or the state has no locus standi in.our personal laws.

The you in my post does not refer to you personally either and is generic in nature directed at any well meaning (or otherwise) Indian non Muslim.

Cheers.

1.State has every kind of business in civil rights/ liberty of every citizen when it sees it being infringed in a systematic patriarchal medieval way and poseess every right to change it through legislation ,irrespective of what ppl believe parliament is supreme and only constitutional body that represents all Indians not some AIMPLB.

2."OUR WOMEN" that sense of entitlement is in itself a problem that UCC will resolve.As women themselves understands their constitutional right.

UCC will be a reality next year learn to live with it.

 

[adil_minhas]

1.State has every kind of business in civil rights/ liberty of every citizen when it sees it being infringed in a systematic patriarchal medieval way and poseess every right to change it through legislation ,irrespective of what ppl believe parliament is supreme and only constitutional body that represents all Indians not some AIMPLB.

2."OUR WOMEN" that sense of entitlement is in itself a problem that UCC will resolve.As women themselves understands their constitutional right.

UCC will be a reality next year learn to live with it.

I have nothing to add to the post you quoted.

Your women are free to do a Draupadi for all it matters to us Muslims.

Lay off our women.

A polite warning.

 

[lightoftruth]

I have nothing to add to the post you quoted.

Your women are free to do a Draupadi for all it matters to us Muslims.

Lay off our women.

A polite warning.

No one cares about warnings.

No one needs your permission.

No one seeks your agreement.

This country will run through parliament deal with it.