Possible War with India

[padamchen]

people generally like to bring up the past .
when your present and future appears to be better then theirs.

Do you deny that your generals have a lot more commercial and ex-Pakistan interests than simply soldiering?

You guys are so happy at poor Nawaz being in prison.

How many generals did you guys put in prison after each war they fought and lost to us. Miserably.

How many went to prison or were hanged for 1971? Any culpability demanded?

Cheers, Doc

 

[Imran Khan]

Unlike Indian generals who fade away into civilian life after retirement, PakisyaPa generals never really retire.

They own the country. They run the country. And they run industry.

Most of the better heeled ones would have properties in the UK. The not so better heeled ones would have made the relevant connections in Arab countries.

When the shit hits the fan, they will all disappear.

And like Musharraf, come on to the lecture circuit after the dust has settled and talk tough.

And make us laugh for free.

Cheers, Doc

and who said this ? please show my last 100 generals retired are active ? this is another BS propaganda ?
lets leave 100s of generals lets talk about famous guys
where is pasha -kiyani -mehmood -baig -shahid aziz - raheel ?

ARMY WELFARE TRUST is a 20bn$ trust and its good for economy they pay tax . but saying generals retire and rule is plain stupidity do you know today we have some 29 lieutenant generals and 173 major generals active ? they all will be retired with in 7 years none of them will be in office and some 200 new generals will be in office . we may have some 2000 retired generals alive in country .

 

[padamchen]

and who said this ? please show my last 100 generals retired are active ? this is another BS propaganda ?
lets leave 100s of generals lets talk about famous guys
where is pasha -kiyani -mehmood -baig -shahid aziz - raheel ?

ARMY WELFARE TRUST is a 20bn$ trust and its good for economy they pay tax . but saying generals retire and rule is plain stupidity do you know today we have some 29 lieutenant generals and 173 major generals active ? they all will be retired with in 7 years none of them will be in office and some 200 new generals will be in office . we may have some 2000 retired generals alive in country .

I did not mean they continue to serve.

When it comes to the army and the politicians, India is like ancient Rome.

You guys are like .... Pakistan.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Indus Pakistan]

On the subject of war. Everybody relax. When Gangadesh had overwhelming conventional superiorty against Pakistan with population resource advantage of 7 to 1 this castrated cow could do nothing. Now with the nuclear capability in place this cow is not going to do anything other then 'meow' and then take relief by pooping in the open ...

This is the nature of Hindoo. Thousand years of veggioe chewing has made them limp and like our man said "small men".

 

[Lincoln]

USA did nothing to master minds of KSA and only attacked soft targets. Don't forget that USA did not hit real culprits. Also, USA war on Afghanistan has been a lost cause, not victory. So, USA did not get much either. India does not do such mistakes


Artillery will have only 40km range. These are primitive WW2 guns and even India has them.

AEWACS are not offensive weapons and are also easy to be shot down.


Pakistani satellites are limited in number and don't have ability to launch more of them. Just few satellites will not change much. More satellites with indigenous technology is needed.

Pakistan has limited SAM from China and not enough to cover full airspace. India has Akash SAM which can cover entire border airspace.

India makes Su30 in India whereas Pakistan imports the F16 which gives disadvantage to Pakistan. Spare parts are hard to come in wars.

Tanks of Pakistan is also imported and Pakistan does not have spare parts or repair ability. In war, equipments get damaged quickly and need repairs almost every day.

Pakistan has no radars which are powerful enough. Older generation radar which are less accurate exists.

Pakistan has only short range ballistic missile whereas longer range ones have regularly failed in it mission. Pakistan 2 stage missiles have serious problems like these:

The stage separation does not happen properly but the first stage is still burning when it separates.

Pakistani warships are pathetic and have no air defence at all. They just have basic Chinese aSh missile and nothing more. Indian ships have advanced radars and air defence.

India has nuclear submarines too

So many words, and not a single mention or name of the supposedly older generation stuff you are talking about except the F-16, have you heard about JF-17 btw?

 

[Vijyes Yechury]

Karachi ship yard to repair ships

Show me one signle ship with proper armaments being made in karachi, not simple OPV or normal ships. Making ships is WW2 technology but making electronic based armaments are not

ammo factories from POF

POF just produce ammunition, not high end technology like BVR missiles, SAM etc.

local aircraft manufacturing capability

Pakistan does not have local aircraft manufacturing except trainers. India makes Su30 locally including radar and engine

heavy industries taxila producing tanks APCS

That is not enough. Tanks and heavy armour is needed. Does Pakistan produce tanks and its engines without imports? Engines are very important

 

[Hamza913]

Nukes are irrelevant.

Nukes don't stop war.

Pakistan is not in a position to fight.

 

[Imran Khan]

USA did nothing to master minds of KSA and only attacked soft targets. Don't forget that USA did not hit real culprits. Also, USA war on Afghanistan has been a lost cause, not victory. So, USA did not get much either. India does not do such mistakes


Artillery will have only 40km range. These are primitive WW2 guns and even India has them.

AEWACS are not offensive weapons and are also easy to be shot down.


Pakistani satellites are limited in number and don't have ability to launch more of them. Just few satellites will not change much. More satellites with indigenous technology is needed.

Pakistan has limited SAM from China and not enough to cover full airspace. India has Akash SAM which can cover entire border airspace.

India makes Su30 in India whereas Pakistan imports the F16 which gives disadvantage to Pakistan. Spare parts are hard to come in wars.

Tanks of Pakistan is also imported and Pakistan does not have spare parts or repair ability. In war, equipments get damaged quickly and need repairs almost every day.

Pakistan has no radars which are powerful enough. Older generation radar which are less accurate exists.

Pakistan has only short range ballistic missile whereas longer range ones have regularly failed in it mission. Pakistan 2 stage missiles have serious problems like these:

The stage separation does not happen properly but the first stage is still burning when it separates.

Pakistani warships are pathetic and have no air defence at all. They just have basic Chinese aSh missile and nothing more. Indian ships have advanced radars and air defence.

India has nuclear submarines too

talking with you is waste of time you are already brain washed . just ask you country to attack us

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Then I'll rephrase that question, do you have proof that many of them are low caste converts?

I don't have anymore scientific proof then assumming that Leroy the mugger with his trouser half way down his ar*ss is originally from Africa. If you mean by proof do I collect samples of blood from every 'Moghul' I met and have them positively confirmed - the answer is no.

 

[Lincoln]

USA did nothing to master minds of KSA and only attacked soft targets. Don't forget that USA did not hit real culprits. Also, USA war on Afghanistan has been a lost cause, not victory. So, USA did not get much either. India does not do such mistakes


Artillery will have only 40km range. These are primitive WW2 guns and even India has them.

AEWACS are not offensive weapons and are also easy to be shot down.


Pakistani satellites are limited in number and don't have ability to launch more of them. Just few satellites will not change much. More satellites with indigenous technology is needed.

Pakistan has limited SAM from China and not enough to cover full airspace. India has Akash SAM which can cover entire border airspace.

India makes Su30 in India whereas Pakistan imports the F16 which gives disadvantage to Pakistan. Spare parts are hard to come in wars.

Tanks of Pakistan is also imported and Pakistan does not have spare parts or repair ability. In war, equipments get damaged quickly and need repairs almost every day.

Pakistan has no radars which are powerful enough. Older generation radar which are less accurate exists.

Pakistan has only short range ballistic missile whereas longer range ones have regularly failed in it mission. Pakistan 2 stage missiles have serious problems like these:

The stage separation does not happen properly but the first stage is still burning when it separates.

Pakistani warships are pathetic and have no air defence at all. They just have basic Chinese aSh missile and nothing more. Indian ships have advanced radars and air defence.

India has nuclear submarines too

Don't forget that India also is a supapowa contesting US, Russia and China while Pakistan is still fighting with swords and spears

 

[Imran Khan]

Show me one signle ship with proper armaments being made in karachi, not simple OPV or normal ships. Making ships is WW2 technology but making electronic based armaments are not


POF just produce ammunition, not high end technology like BVR missiles, SAM etc.


Pakistan does not have local aircraft manufacturing except trainers. India makes Su30 locally including radar and engine


That is not enough. Tanks and heavy armour is needed. Does Pakistan produce tanks and its engines without imports? Engines are very important

as i told you you are nut case for you all the weapons are toys . i have no free time to teach you . you are lost already .

 

[SHAH07]

A war with India means that both nations lose, because nukes.

In the event that nukes aren't used, both sides would suffer greatly, but because India has made so many big strides in the last 2 decades, India would be favored by quantity AND quality wise, when it comes to man power and technology.

Not to mention that Pakistan has gear it's military more towards fighting insurgencies. While this has given Pakistan invaluable experience and kept it's swords sharp, it also means that the PA needs to, once again prioritize conventional capabilities, if war is inevitable with India.

All in all, war with India should be avoided. If nukes are used, both nations cease to exist. If nukes aren't used, India would suffer, but likely come out better than Pakistan.

Did we use nukes in kargil war ? Did they use nukes in kargil war? ... There is a possibility of a short kargil like war between pak and India .. We shouldn't think that we have nukes so just relax nothing is gonna happen..

 

[N.Siddiqui]

So this Bippin Rawat did a presser and invited media persons from across the country to announce a befitting reply to Pakistan, can't be more political and churlish than this...

Even the saner Indians are waking up to the reality and not buying this bragging, war mongering and shenanigans from this Bippin R. Clownish looks is not helping him either...

Some of the comments in Indian media, TOI here...

 

[padamchen]

Did we use nukes in kargil war ? Did they use nukes in kargil war? ... There is a possibility of a short kargil like war between pak and India .. We shouldn't think that we have nukes so just relax nothing is gonna happen..

The next war with Pakistan will have clear territorial strategic objective/s.

India will not be drawn into a hot war otherwise.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Hamza913]

Did we use nukes in kargil war ? Did they use nukes in kargil war? ... There is a possibility of a short kargil like war between pak and India .. We shouldn't think that we have nukes so just relax nothing is gonna happen..

Those types of wars are not an issue since both sides can defend themselves pretty well if such an event were to occur.