Possible Russian S-400 sale to India and Pakistan's Response.

[Chanakyaa]

Arguing with some lkg student makes no sense .. let him win in his own world..

Well Said ... Sorry... !

 

[GumNaam]

What you are Forgetting is, India has a close Ally , Israel which is ALREADY facing "Low Cost" Threats.
There is a reason why Israel is closely associated with India. India will soon have an iron Dome like System as well.

In the Pipeline is a Vertical Launched Astra Missile based SAM.
In short, India is VERY VERY serious about SAM Arena. And this makes things really Difficult for any Adversary.

On a Serious Note, I must Credit you guys to almost forget the two "N" words ( Nukes and NASR ) which are a Chek Mate for EVERY Weapon of India.

Baki.. Lage Raho....

The iron dome is effective only against home made pipe rockets and that too, a couple of them that poor Palestinians get to fire when they have a chance. Every system has a threshold that can be breached. The threshold of the s400 is not all that high.

Did you forget the first Terrorist Attack in 1948 right after one year making of Pakistan.
Did you Forget the Second Terrorist Attack on Jammu Kashmir and illegally occupying it...and deploying your 1 million army their.
Did you forget the Third Terrorist Attack on Pakistan in 1965
Did you forget the Fourth Terrorist Attack on Pakistan and separating the country in two parts (Bagladesh) in 1971, few months back your PM Nerandra Modi in Bangladesh Accepted that it was India behind the Mukti Bahni who killled people and separate the Bangladesh...........
And did you forget to make Nukes and start Threatening Pakistan and sending the Army on Borders in 1999.
And did you forget the Samjoota Express Train Blasts in India where Pakistani were Killed and your Army Col. was involved in this........
Did you forget the sending Terrorist in Pakistan from Afghanistan to destabilize the Pakistan.
Did you forget to mention to give training, weapons and money to BLA in Baluchistan in Pakistan and hosting their tribal leaders in India and now they are applying for Indian Nationality..............

And as for Indian Claims sending terrorists from Pakistan they never gave any proof......what they gave always stories through their media...............they never gave any credible proof (Actual Proof) which can be proved in the court of law......
So stop laying.................
The world now knows how much your people lies from your recent claims of so called Surgical Strikes................................ohhh by the why we are still waiting for those proofs (Surgical Strikes)..................

Dude, your trying to reason with people that still believe in gods that are half monkey, half bananas or half human and half elephant. You think they'll ever listen to reason? Come on man, your better than this.

Let them dig their own graves.

what makes you think the S-400 will pivk tiny drones
there are plenty of other options to deal with toy drones

Yeah Yeah aa guns and akas and what not. Hey listen, they all can be saturated within minutes. And this is without bringing in electronic warfare into the picture. It can be easier with the introduction of EW from our side. But there is very little info out their about our own EW capabilities as they are extremely secretive about it. Even my own family members side line any inquiries by saying "don't worry about it, it's more than adequat".

 

[DavidSling]

The iron dome is effective only against home made pipe rockets and that too, a couple of them that poor Palestinians get to fire when they have a chance. Every system has a threshold that can be breached. The threshold of the s400 is not all that high.


Dude, your trying to reason with people that still believe in gods that are half monkey, half bananas or half human and half elephant. You think they'll ever listen to reason? Come on man, your better than this.

Let them dig their own graves.

Iron Dome destroy rockets that are in the air for few seconds, not even a minute.
Iron Dome destroyed drones in both Israeli and U.S tests.
Iron Dome destroyed mortars.
Iron Dome is one of it's kind missile system, that was developed localy if u know that that means

 

[wiseone2]

The iron dome is effective only against home made pipe rockets and that too, a couple of them that poor Palestinians get to fire when they have a chance. Every system has a threshold that can be breached. The threshold of the s400 is not all that high.


Dude, your trying to reason with people that still believe in gods that are half monkey, half bananas or half human and half elephant. You think they'll ever listen to reason? Come on man, your better than this.

Let them dig their own graves.



Yeah Yeah aa guns and akas and what not. Hey listen, they all can be saturated within minutes. And this is without bringing in electronic warfare into the picture. It can be easier with the introduction of EW from our side. But there is very little info out their about our own EW capabilities as they are extremely secretive about it. Even my own family members side line any inquiries by saying "don't worry about it, it's more than adequat".

electronic warfare has to do with signal processing and electronics
Indians are way ahead of you

 

[GumNaam]

Iron Dome destroy rockets that are in the air for few seconds, not even a minute.
Iron Dome destroyed drones in both Israeli and U.S tests.
Iron Dome destroyed mortars.
Iron Dome is one of it's kind missile system, that was developed localy if u know that that means

How many during tests? I assure you, it hasn't been tested with hundreds of incoming warheads or shells.

 

[DavidSling]

How many during tests? I assure you, it hasn't been tested with hundreds of incoming warheads or shells.

You're kidding right?
By November 2012, official statements indicated that it had intercepted 400+ rockets.[14][15] By late October 2014, the Iron Dome systems had intercepted over 1,200 rockets.[16] including Iranian designed and made rockets
July 2014 Operation Protective Edge
During the 50 days of the conflict where 4,594 rockets and mortars were fired at Israeli targets, Iron Dome systems intercepted 735 projectiles that it determined were threatening, achieving an intercept success rate of 90 percent.
Defense reporter Mark Thompson wrote that, the "lack of Israeli casualties suggests Iron Dome is the most-effective, most-tested missile shield the world has ever seen."[119]

 

[GumNaam]

electronic warfare has to do with signal processing and electronics
Indians are way ahead of you

And what makes you so sure that you know next to anything about our capabilities? Much like how your cold start doctrine was suppose to check mate us and then Nasr came out neutralizing everything. Understand something; Pakistan stays a step ahead of this game your trying to play but keeps its cards close to its chest, showing them only when needed to ruin your dreams.

You're kidding right?
By November 2012, official statements indicated that it had intercepted 400+ rockets.[14][15] By late October 2014, the Iron Dome systems had intercepted over 1,200 rockets.[16]
July 2014 Operation Protective Edge
During the 50 days of the conflict where 4,594 rockets and mortars were fired at Israeli targets, Iron Dome systems intercepted 735 projectiles that it determined were threatening, achieving an intercept success rate of 90 percent.
Defense reporter Mark Thompson wrote that, the "lack of Israeli casualties suggests Iron Dome is the most-effective, most-tested missile shield the world has ever seen."[119]

My question was regarding in a single attack.

 

[Malik Usman]

Well Said ... Sorry... !

When you have no arguments to put in your small mind these kind of comments are expected............

 

[CriticalThought]

So for all our Indian members on this thread, brothers, I have a question for you. If you have such a state of the art air defence system already, which will be further complemented by S-400, how come a Pakistani drone was able to make this video with impunity and guide our artillery in real time?

https://defence.pk/threads/indian-army-post-on-fire.453458/#post-8770199

 

[Wet Shirt Contest]

I like how fellow country men likes to exaggerate own capabilities while underestimating others

 

[DavidSling]

And what makes you so sure that you know next to anything about our capabilities? Much like how your cold start doctrine was suppose to check mate us and then Nasr came out neutralizing everything. Understand something; Pakistan stays a step ahead of this game your trying to play but keeps its cards close to its chest, showing them only when needed to ruin your dreams.



My question was regarding in a single attack.

In theory it could, but hamas can't shoot that many rockets at once.
Iron Dome is a tested battle system, that proved itself against dozen of rocket salvos, so it should be fine with handling hundreds if enough batteries are deployed ofcourse

 

[danger007]

Iron Dome destroy rockets that are in the air for few seconds, not even a minute.
Iron notmm destroyed drones in both Israeli and U.S tests.
Iron Dome destroyed mortars.
Iron Dome is one of it's kind missile system, that was developed localy if u know that that means

Are you trying to answer him.. as per him.. he will launch 100 of drones on one go( armed) then take out our sam networks.. but he didn't answered, how he is going to control them, acquire target and attack..

 

[GumNaam]

So for all our Indian members on this thread, brothers, I have a question for you. If you have such a state of the art air defence system already, which will be further complemented by S-400, how come a Pakistani drone was able to make this video with impunity and guide our artillery in real time?

https://defence.pk/threads/indian-army-post-on-fire.453458/#post-8770199

In theory it could, but hamas can't shoot that many rockets at once.
Iron Dome is a tested battle system, that proved itself against dozen of rocket salvos, so it should be fine with handling hundreds if enough batteries are deployed ofcourse

That's to be seen now isn't it. Much like how the Patriot missiles were deadly against a few scuds but when tested against america's own SSMs in large numbers, it was a failure.

 

[Photon]

So for all our Indian members on this thread, brothers, I have a question for you. If you have such a state of the art air defence system already, which will be further complemented by S-400, how come a Pakistani drone was able to make this video with impunity and guide our artillery in real time?

https://defence.pk/threads/indian-army-post-on-fire.453458/#post-8770199

This most likely is a handheld drone, which never even crossed the border.

Much like Chinese toy drone that Pakistani rangers shot down a few months back, claiming it to be Indian spy aircraft , only to find out, it was a toy drone, that was being flown from Pakistan itself.

 

[GumNaam]

Are you trying to answer him.. as per him.. he will launch 100 of drones on one go( armed) then take out our sam networks.. but he didn't answered, how he is going to control them, acquire target and attack..

The target is already acquired, i.e. radar source. As for controlling them, they could be ground controlled, preprogrammed, multiple options there