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October 17 ; Death anniversary of Hakeem Muhammad Saeed..

Hakeem Muhammad Saeed was a medical researcher, scholar, philanthropist, and a Governor of Sindh from 1993 until 1996. He was one of Pakistan's most prominent medical researchers in the field of Eastern medicines.

 

[dexter]

بی بی سی اردو کی سیریز آپ کے ہیروز میں اس بار ہم آپ کی ملاقات خضدار سے تعلق رکھنے والے فاروق احمد سے کروا رہے ہیں جنھوں نے اپنے علاقے میں بچوں کے لیے ایک جھونپڑی میں سکول شروع کیا۔ ان کی محنت اور لگن کے نتیجے میں علاقے کے لوگوں اور ایک این جی او نے بھی ان کا ساتھ دیا اور وہ ایک پکا سکول بنانے میں کامیاب ہوگئے۔

In BBC Urdu's series Aap Heroes, this time we are introducing you to Farooq Ahmad from Khuzdar, who started a school for children in his locality in a hut. As a result of his hard work and dedication, the people of the area and an NGO also supported him and he was able to build a full-fledged school.

 

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I have found many links giving below information but they all seem copy pasted from each other and even on wiki.
Can somebody verify this through a cited source ?

Pakistan’s role in the Independence of Morocco​

In 1952 when Morocco was under French rule and they were fighting for their independence, Sultan Mohammed V of Morocco sent Ahmed Balafrej to US to address UN Security Council. However, French delegates did not allow him to speak saying that because Morocco was a French colony therefore, Ahmed Bulferg being subject of France can not speak at the UN forum. At this humiliation of Ahmed Balafrej by French, Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Zafarullah Khan immediately got Pakistani embassy at US opened at night and offered Ahmed Balafrej Pakistani nationality and issued him Pakistani Passport due which on the next day he was able to address the UN Security council as Pakistani citizen in favour of Morocco. This gave great boost to the Moroccan independence movement internationally and back at home

Finally when Morocco became independent in 1956, Sultan Muhammad V appointed Ahmed Bulferg as Prime Minister of Morocco and he used to hang his framed Pakistani Passport in his office and used to proudly tell all the visitors the role that passport played in the independence of Morocco.

 

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I have found many links giving below information but they all seem copy pasted from each other and even on wiki.
Can somebody verify this through a cited source ?

Pakistan’s role in the Independence of Morocco​

In 1952 when Morocco was under French rule and they were fighting for their independence, Sultan Mohammed V of Morocco sent Ahmed Balafrej to US to address UN Security Council. However, French delegates did not allow him to speak saying that because Morocco was a French colony therefore, Ahmed Bulferg being subject of France can not speak at the UN forum. At this humiliation of Ahmed Balafrej by French, Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Zafarullah Khan immediately got Pakistani embassy at US opened at night and offered Ahmed Balafrej Pakistani nationality and issued him Pakistani Passport due which on the next day he was able to address the UN Security council as Pakistani citizen in favour of Morocco. This gave great boost to the Moroccan independence movement internationally and back at home

Finally when Morocco became independent in 1956, Sultan Muhammad V appointed Ahmed Bulferg as Prime Minister of Morocco and he used to hang his framed Pakistani Passport in his office and used to proudly tell all the visitors the role that passport played in the independence of Morocco.

پاکستان نے مراکش کو فرانس سے آزادی دلانے میں کیا کردار ادا کیا تھا؟

سن 1951 میں پاکستان نے مراکش، تیونس اور الجزائر کے حقِ خود ارادیت کے سوال کو پیرس میں اقوامِ متحدہ کی جنرل اسمبلی اور بعد ازاں نیویارک سلامتی کونسل میں زیرِ بحث لانے کے لیے اہم کردار ادا کیا۔

www.urduvoa.com

 

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Karachi's 18-year-old girl runs french fries stall to support her family.

18-year-old Atufa is breaking barriers by running her own French fries stall in Karachi's Orangi to make ends meet for her family of four. With her unwavering determination, she's not only supporting her family but also inspiring others.

 

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PESHAWAR: Mardans 18-year-old Shahzad has developed a social networking portal that does not require an internet connection Smile SMS. The SMS-based social networking service enables users to gather local and international information on their phones, free of cost, without using the internet.

IT-savvy Shahzad has been into developing programmes and websites ever since he was in grade six. This hobby transformed into passion and helped him achieve a lot at a very young age.

Sajjad Khan, one of the users of the service said that in his village, hundreds of students dont have internet access to use this service. This is the first time that such a service has been launched in K-P. It is benefitting a lot of people, said Khan.

Social networking redefined: Mardan boy develops SMS-based portal – The Express Tribune

We need a Pakistan based social media platform. Come on all you whiz kids on PdF, do something yar.

 

[LegionnairE]

Karachi's 18-year-old girl runs french fries stall to support her family.

18-year-old Atufa is breaking barriers by running her own French fries stall in Karachi's Orangi to make ends meet for her family of four. With her unwavering determination, she's not only supporting her family but also inspiring others.

I'm sure I'm sure all the young boys in the neighborhood want to eat french fries all of a sudden and I'm sure she's getting a lot of customers.

@ThunderCat
But this was what I was talking about earlier, she wouldn't be breaking barriers in Turkey, she would be just another girl in the workplace. All the women are very much integrated into the economy. There are even more women in the universities so that a lot of the time wife is better educated and makes more money than the husband.

Turkish women have A LOT to thank Atatürk for.

 

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@ThunderCat
But this was what I was talking about earlier, she wouldn't be breaking barriers in Turkey, she would be just another girl in the workplace. All the women are very much integrated into the economy. There are even more women in the universities so that a lot of the time wife is better educated and makes more money than the husband.

Turkish women have A LOT to thank Atatürk for.

She's nothing uncommon in Pakistan. Women work jobs to survive.

Also depends on where in Turkey. Rural Turks don't live like that and are quite conservative and patriarchal. Likewise for Pakistan, Pakistanis have a lot to thank Jinnah and the Pakistan Independence movement for. It was probably the reason we have plenty of women in our government and were the first Muslim country to have a woman Prime Minister and first woman Army Major.

However, the situation of rural class Pakistanis women is different and much more conservative. This is less to do with country and more to do with urbanization and socioeconomic class. Look at the females in this video for example. They're from the urban upper class of Pakistan:

Now compare it to the conservative lifestyle of rural Turkish women:

 

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She's nothing uncommon in Pakistan. Women work jobs to survive.

Also depends on where in Turkey. Rural Turks don't live like that and are quite conservative and patriarchal. Likewise for Pakistan, Pakistanis have a lot to thank Jinnah and the Pakistan Independence movement for. It was probably the reason we have plenty of women in our government and were the first Muslim country to have a woman Prime Minister and first woman Army Major.

However, the situation of rural class Pakistanis women is different and much more conservative. This is less to do with country and more to do with urbanization and socioeconomic class. Look at the females in this video for example. They're from the urban upper class of Pakistan:

Now compare it to the conservative lifestyle of rural Turkish women:

This is also Pakistan:

Shafaq Hasnain – one of Noor’s closest friends – remembers meeting her in January for lunch and being told that she wanted to end her friendship with Zahir. “She felt that it couldn’t work out because she was such a strong believer, and he was an atheist who didn’t believe in anything.”

The path to justice | Political Economy | thenews.com.pk

The story of Noor Mukadam’s murder is gradually revealing all that is wrong with society

www.thenews.com.pk

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615621574547177472

https://twitter.com/x/status/1616588074292486147

 

[LegionnairE]

This is also Pakistan:

Shafaq Hasnain – one of Noor’s closest friends – remembers meeting her in January for lunch and being told that she wanted to end her friendship with Zahir. “She felt that it couldn’t work out because she was such a strong believer, and he was an atheist who didn’t believe in anything.”

The path to justice | Political Economy | thenews.com.pk

The story of Noor Mukadam’s murder is gradually revealing all that is wrong with society

www.thenews.com.pk

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615621574547177472

https://twitter.com/x/status/1616588074292486147

First one, if you're a receptionist, you'll wear what they want you to wear. If it doesn't suit you, don't take the job.

The second one is fucked up lol. what the ****?

Also depends on where in Turkey. Rural Turks don't live like that and are quite conservative and patriarchal.

They also work their butts off, in the fields, herding animals etc. Rural life is tough life man. But of course, every village is different both culturally and economically.

Cities really have character. so I would compare cities to cities. It's where most population live anyway.

 

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Cities really have character. so I would compare cities to cities. It's where most population live anyway.

Exactly, which is why it's incorrect to compare conservative lower income Pakistanis to urban upper class Turks. It's comparing apples and oranges.

I've seen Turks online claiming other muslim countries are patriarchal and not free for women while Turkey gives freedom for women. That is incorrect.

The urban areas of Turkey are liberal and women's life is casual. But in rural it's conservative like most other countries. Likewise for Pakistan. Life in urban/suburban upper class areas are liberal for women.

But in lower income and rural areas, it's mostly patriarchal.

 

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Naila Kiani becomes first Pakistani woman to scale Nepal's Annapurna peak​

Jamil Nagri
April 17, 2023

Pakistani climber Naila Kiani.

Mountaineer Naila Kiani on Monday became the first Pakistani woman to climb the 8,091-metre tall Annapurna peak — the world's tenth-highest peak situated in Nepal.

She was accompanied by climber Shehroze Kashif — who has attained the title of being the youngest Pakistani mountaineer to ascend the peak — and Nepalese sherpas.

Both climbers and the Seven Summit Treks (SST) team successfully ascended the mountain between 6:30am and 7:30am earlier today. They had started the summit push of the peak on Sunday evening with the SST team.

In a social media post today, SST Director Chhang Dawa Sherpa said that a team of sherpas and climbing members successfully made the ascent of Mt Annapurna this morning, adding that three sherpas and three climbers stood on the top between 6:30am and 7:30am.

He also listed the six summiteers: Naila Kiani and Shehroze Kashif from Pakistan; Arjun Vajpai from India; and Lakpa Nurbu Sherpa, Tashi Sherpa, and Lakpa Sherpa from Nepal.

According to Alpine Club of Pakistan Secretary General Karar Haidri, Kiani is the first Pakistani woman climber to summit four peaks over 8,000m.

Kiani is a Dubai-based Pakistani banker, an amateur boxer and a mother of two daughters. She had first gained prominence after images of her wedding shoot at K2 Basecamp circulated on social media in 2018.

She has also summited Gasherbrum-II (8,035m) in 2021 and ascended Gasherbrum-I (8,068m) and K2 in July 2022.

Kiani had also climbed the world’s second tallest peak K2 shortly after Samina Baig, who was the first Pakistani woman to do so.

The 'Broad Boy'​

Having scaled the Broad Peak (8051m) — the world's 12th-highest peak — at the age of 17, Kashif was termed "The Broad Boy". However, his mountain-climbing career had started long ago

Kashif started climbing mountains at the age of 11 with Makra Peak being the first one, followed by Musa ka Musalla and Chembra Peak at 12, Mingli Sar in Shimshal at 13, Khurdopin Pass at 15, and Khosar Gang in alpine style at the age of 18.

The 21-year-old also became the youngest Pakistani to summit Mt Everest (8,849m) — the world's highest peak — on May 11, 2021. Following the feat, the Punjab Sports Board had made him the youth ambassador of Punjab.

He had become the world's youngest climber to summit K2 on July 27, 2021 at the age of 19.

On May 5, 2022, he also became the world's youngest climber and the first Pakistani to reach the summit of Kangchenjunga (8,586m) — the world's third-highest peak that lies in both Nepal and India.

On May 16, 2022, he summited the world's fourth-highest peak, Mt Lhotse (8,516m), in Nepal.

Kashif was recognised by the Guinness World Records for the year 2023 on Nov 1, 2022 for summitting Mt Everest and K2.

In July 2022, he and Fazal Ali went missing between Camp 4 and Camp 3 after successfully summiting Nanga Parbat but were recovered shortly after.

17 April 2023 - Seven Summit Treks Annapurna Exped. Summit Update !

• A team of Sherpas and climbing members successfully made the ascent of Mt. Annapurna this morning, 3 Sherpas and 3 Climbers stood on the top between 6:30 to 7:30 Am.\
Summiteers Name list:

1) Naila Kiani

first Pakistani women to climb Annapurna.
2) Shehroze Kashif

3) Arjun Vajpai

4) Lakpa Nurbu Sherpa

5) Tashi Sherpa

6) Lakpa Sherpa

Congratulations

 

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Exactly, which is why it's incorrect to compare conservative lower income Pakistanis to urban upper class Turks. It's comparing apples and oranges.

I've seen Turks online claiming other muslim countries are patriarchal and not free for women while Turkey gives freedom for women. That is incorrect.

The urban areas of Turkey are liberal and women's life is casual. But in rural it's conservative like most other countries. Likewise for Pakistan. Life in urban/suburban upper class areas are liberal for women.

But in lower income and rural areas, it's mostly patriarchal.

Please give specific examples so that I can measure your knowledge on this subject. Because the 'majority' of Anatolia is much more comfortable for women than the suburbs and peripheral towns of western metropolises. The real problem is in the cities. Patriarchy is a cultural phenomenon regardless of region in the country. Let's discuss where and how much this restricts women's lives.

Even If we exclude Kocaeli, Antalya, Izmir etc, starting from blacksea region to Trakya then downt to Adana, should we also exclude the inner western Aegean and even the Taurus? Are you referring to the southeast region? What does mostly mean?

What rights are you talking about that are restricted? Are they deprived of the rights and privileges that women have by law, such as positive discrimination and eg principle of'the woman's declaration is essential without requiring a witness' etc? Or can they not enter business life, become civil servants? When a parents does not send a girl-child to school, is that parents not penalized by state? Are these women being denied the right to pursue an academic career? Doesn't the state use billions of liras of funds and tax exemptions every year to help women living in Anatolia participate in the economy? Are they unable to claim rights in the inheritance dividing? Are they unable to travel alone? Are they not visible?

Rural and urban women have equal rights. If they want to participate in economic life, rural women have a slight advantage. She can use interest-free loans and receive grant support. Life is more difficult for the urban woman. She is more often bullied in social life. Since city woman does not produce her own consumption, has a much harder time earning a living or needs the support of men. Women with low educational attainment and living in metropolitan areas have the most difficulty in achieving economic independence. In the villages, mothers, are mostly trading, engage in agriculture and animal husbandry and support their children in the cities economically.

Are there ultra-conservative(I call them as bigots) villages? Of course, in the centers where some bigoted communities have a strong presence. A few districts in Adıyaman, for example, or a few districts in Erzurum. But this is never on a scale that can be generalized.

Not only Muslim countries, 90% of the world is patriarchal, even despite all the gender neutral policies of the West. Are there not rates of violence against women in the UK, the USA, bullying in traffic and social life, work life? How much does the fact that the family structure is on the verge of extinction change the fact that women struggle against the male authority structure in social life? Speaking of the countryside, do you have any idea what the situation is like in rural most of America continent or Eastern Europe?

The problem in Anatolian rural is based on 1 basic factor and its output. Low living standards and incomes, and migration to cities as a result. However, due to the recent boom in cultural tourism(and hyperinflationary cost of living in western cities), the situation has stalled a bit. Agriculture is now very valuable. If a government that really cares about agricultural policies comes to power, agricultural activities will be another factor of backward migration.

I have traveled to many corners of Turkiye: the Aegean, the Black Sea, even the inland parts of the Mediterranean, highlands of Black sea region, Trakya, Eastern Anatolia, and Central Anatolia, the prophets city of South Eastern Anatolia's Urfa, also Mardin and Antakya, Antep etc. intersects of old history and religions... I find it very interesting that you are trying to decide this with internet social media narratives, while I, cannot make such a generalization and feel the need to explain that the situation is not that simple.

 

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But this was what I was talking about earlier, she wouldn't be breaking barriers in Turkey, she would be just another girl in the workplace. All the women are very much integrated into the economy. There are even more women in the universities so that a lot of the time wife is better educated and makes more money than the husband.

Turkish women have A LOT to thank Atatürk for.

Pakistan is the first country in the Islamic world to have had a female Prime Minister. Her name was Benazir Bhutto twice elected.

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) was one of the best airlines in the world and Air Hostess Momi Gul Durrani was the face of success.

Pakistan-born quantum astrophysicist Nergis Mavalvala, dean of the MIT School of Science

Yasmeen Lari, country's female architect who built some of the most iconic buildings of Karachi including the Taj Mahal Hotel, Finance and Trade Centre and the Pakistan State Oil House, making her mark in a male-dominated profession

Nigar Johar – Pakistan’s first woman three-star general

First female Supreme Court Judge

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