Our main problem is not having enough cities to evenly spread the population and have less per sqkm. Our few big urban centers have population more than they can sustain, Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, Peshawar and even small cities as well.
People living in rural areas still have enough land to not make it look congested ugly place.
It's not an argument of aesthetics but more about human development and facing the consequences of not doing so. I've lived half my life in villages* and the cultivable land I see today is easily less than half of what it was in my childhood. Smaller villages have become larger, larger villages have become Towns and larger towns have become small cities and so on.
They are over a billion plus with serious gender disparity. It is not them but their desire for sons with little nunniz that is keeping the nos. low for the time being. They have same issue ........ few cities with huge population (compared to their total area).
It seems you just spoke out of your embedded rhetorical instinct rather than any knowledge of modern day India. If you're suggesting its female feticide or gender selection at conception leading to lower population growth rate, it couldn't be far from the truth.
India's population growth is a well researched & documented area. Read about it. India has urbanized at a breathtaking pace with huge cities sprawling up as tech hubs. More than 20 large cities have birth rates below the population replacement rate. There are many reasons.
- Urban centers, especially tech hubs, much like western cities are extremely modern, offer great life style and consequently expensive. If the wife leaves her job to raise a kid any longer than short term, it becomes extremely difficult to afford life in these urban centers.
- An additional child doesn't just mean one spouse leaves job to tend to the kid but also means additional expense.
- Many of these young people start out independently as couples with parents living back in their native cities/towns/villages and hence there is very little daily pressure to continue the tradition of procreation. This phenomenon is less documented but after having worked with countless Indians from the tech industry, I firmly believe this only helps reduce pressure to have children for Indians.
Indian youth sees the benefits of lower population and reaps too. Pakistan is headed in that direction somewhat but hasn't reached that critical mix of urbanization and individual freedom, for the benefits to start impacting the population significantly. That said, just do a rough calculation.
Count the grand children any people from your grand parents' generation have, and compare it to grand parents of your parents' generation. It's easy to see the trend.
These are just future predictions, let me share an experience with you, after few years women won't be able to give birth to too many children, it has already started, after two the women will start experiencing high bp and complications, call it whatever, but we may see a rise in fatalities while giving birth.
What are you basing this experience out of, there is so much missing here. Are you a medical researcher? a gynecologist? a health worker? are you even a dude ... Only a female should be able to speak so confidently about female reproductive health other than an actual medical researcher on Pakistani female reproduction.
Population control isn’t a solution.
Set up new self sufficient cities in Pakistan. Balochistan despite being 44% of Pakistan has a smaller population then Lahore. Set up many small cities in Pakistan with urban gardens (vertical farms to grow vegetables) to grow food, manage resources properly, build more dams, build desalination plants (Saudi is experimenting with new desalination technologies for its neom city which will be super cheap), put solar panels on every home in the villages.
Population control (haram in islam) might give us short term benefits but it’ll destroy our country in the long term look at China and learn from their mistakes.
If anything China has proven that even with strict population control, you can grow at breakneck speed. Not that I endorse their model or believe that the 1 child policy was implemented a 100%, but if anything, China isn't a case you should cite.
We are 220 million so called Muslims drowned in "Soodi Qarza" interest based debt which per Islam is a war against Allah. What is more haram than creating millions of more kids and forcing them in a war against Allah from birth? My point isn't religious, its to tell you to stop using religion where it suits you.
Also, Balochistan has a lot of depravity already that we haven't resolved in 70+ years, let us do that first before we even ask them to consider allowing more cities to fill with outsiders.
Stick to UK. The island cannot sustain any no go areas anymore and more people need to be employed ever more to afford a single pensioner.
Pakistan doesn't face population problem but infrastructure problem.
Pakistan already well past the population level to reap all economies of scale benefits in virtually all fields. We passed that decades back, we can probably introduce more problems by increasing our population, but we clearly have no visible benefit of increasing our population more and no having more kids to afford more pension to aging population isn't a benefit, its a self defeating cycle with a finite and devastating end.
awam se government control nahi horahi birth control kese karen
Kese bhi karen, kyun k agar aj control nahi ho rahi tu aur barhne k baad bilkul nahi ho gi
Kick out the after 71 Bangalis as Bangladesh is now modern day south Korea
and Afghanis will never go and keep reproducing
They're in every district, town of Pakistan
You can't get rid of them...
Last generation f-ed us with ummah brotherhood stuff...
Let's not go into our treatment of Bengalis that led to their independence. These people in Pakistan fought for us often not knowing the greater racist plan. Instead of kicking them out, we should apologize to them for uprooting them from their homeland for our selfish designs, give them respect they deserve and own up to our mistakes and that of our ancestors. Two wrongs don't make one right!
Also, Afghanis were helped in by another Pakistani dictator so let's fix ourselves first and then educate the people already here. The same Afghanis make some of the best athletes, doctors, scientists and professionals world over when educated. Stop with your racism.
The Jews learnt this lesson early on and focused on providing the best possible upbringing to a limited number of children instead of breeding like rats, this despite going through a genocide. Look at them now, they number around 1/100th of the Muslims yet command 100 times more power and influence thanks to education and resultant economic and political success.
Israel is less than 1/20th of Pakistan's population, less than 1/10th the area and that too almost entirely desert with no agriculture. Yet its exports reached over $130 billion in 2021 compared to under 30 billion. Exports per capita are well over a 100 times compared to that of Pakistan.
Ride the wave!
Population levels are peaking around the world and it "will" be shaped by who're actually around and "NOT" those on the higher pedestal rods of steel in their neck... feigning progress!
Eventually, Africa the youngest continent "will" be on the driving seat barring another genocide.
See the attached image. Most countries at the top of the population growth rate chart are African and have been for a while. You can keep championing the cause of replicating like bunnies is a better approach to human development rather than reproducing like the most intelligent creature known to exist in the universe today.
Its a myth. Pakistan population growth is in constant decline if we remove afghani factor. Its the reason why pashtuns now make up 18% of population when in 1951 they did 9%. While rest of ethnic groups declined.
Once you take care of afghani migration, Pakistan population too will start to decline. There is no point worrying about too many people. Think of them as opportunity as rest of the developed enter population decline era.
@Imran Khan sir ji.... in the 90s we have a massive influx of immigrants in Pakistan. Afghans, Bangalies (over 200 settlements in Karachi) etc etc ... Afghan reproduction is much higher than average Pak,, same to Bangala population in Karachi .. Check the demographics ... our refugee policy during the Afgan war was killer...bechari aurtan .. what a massive abuse.
It is not too different from extremists in India saying Muslims reproduce more than Hindus for 'population jihad'.
You defeat your own argument. If population is an opportunity, use the influx of Afghanis to benefit Pakistan and not to expose your inner racist insecure self. Look at the attached file representing the highest population growth rate per latest data. If you know anything about the world, you won't take a second to realize these countries are invariably among the poorest nations in the world. There is no literature or even circumstantial evidence to prove that countries as large as Pakistan can benefit from increasing population.
Its a sad irony that you'd proudly call yourself a citizen of "Islamic Republic of Pakistan", yet be a racist against brethren Muslims and consider them outsiders. You'd hate on KSA and UAE not offering citizenship to Pakistanis and other poorer Muslims, yet you'd happily champion the same sick approach in Pakistan.
West Pakistan became a province in Pakistan.
East Punjab became a province in India which was later on divided into 2 states Punjab and Haryana. Punjab's population is 28 million while Haryana's population in 25 million. Together, their population is 53 million.
You are right about Punjab splitting but fun fact, Sikhs constitute a majority of Indian Punjab's population and per the latest data, Sikh women have the lowest child birth rate among major ethno-religious groups at 1.6 per woman.