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Pope Urges Blasphemy-Law Repeal

But His Holiness is minding his own business. Pakistan has sentenced a christian for offending the Blasphemy laws. The Pope represents the christians. Therefore the Pope is going about his business in calling for a repeal of that law.

where was this self proclaimed "his holiness" when the danish made the miages offending millions of muslims?

where was this pope when france banned veil

or when switzerland banned minarets

or when this self proclaimed holiness launched a "CRUSADE" against the muslims in the 10th century!


i am sorry but islam is going through the similar phase as other religions at one point or another!
 
where was this self proclaimed "his holiness" when the danish made the miages offending millions of muslims?

where was this pope when france banned veil

or when switzerland banned minarets

or when this self proclaimed holiness launched a "CRUSADE" against the muslims in the 10th century!


i am sorry but islam is going through the similar phase as other religions at one point or another!

So if all the followers of this "self proclaimed Holiness" and the leaders of their nations start implementing their own Blasphemy laws, you do realise that the banning of the burkah and the veil and the printing of cartoons will be small in comparison to the pain which Muslims in those nations will really suffer. Lets see, Islam will be declared a heretic religion and be banned? Just imagine the outcry if non Muslim nations start implementing their own Blasphemy laws. This is the 21st century. Muslims should not go "through phases". Rather instead they should follow the principle that the state cannot be controlled by the dictates of religion. As I said earlier, imagine the consequences if Christian and other non Muslim nations start implementing their own blasphemy laws saying that this is a "phase" which we are all going through
 
where was this self proclaimed "his holiness" when the danish made the miages offending millions of muslims?

where was this pope when france banned veil

or when switzerland banned minarets

or when this self proclaimed holiness launched a "CRUSADE" against the muslims in the 10th century!


i am sorry but islam is going through the similar phase as other religions at one point or another!

danish images where individual opinion about a religious man .
france have banned not only veil, but all religous things from public life , they have banned turbuns and many more . switzerland just banned building, not killed innocent on the name of religion(by law).
 
So if all the followers of this "self proclaimed Holiness" and the leaders of their nations start implementing their own Blasphemy laws, you do realise that the banning of the burkah and the veil and the printing of cartoons will be small in comparison to the pain which Muslims in those nations will really suffer. Lets see, Islam will be declared a heretic religion and be banned? Just imagine the outcry if non Muslim nations start implementing their own Blasphemy laws. This is the 21st century. Muslims should not go "through phases". Rather instead they should follow the principle that the state cannot be controlled by the dictates of religion. As I said earlier, imagine the consequences if Christian and other non Muslim nations start implementing their own blasphemy laws saying that this is a "phase" which we are all going through


well sorry but Chrisitans have already gone down that road before....by having their crusades and calling muslims enemies of god!

and blasphemy law doesn't say kill every non muslim please read it through!


Chrisitans KNIGHTED SALMAN RUSHDIE! in ENGLAND which clearly has a blasphemy law in place.....


double standards????

and as for muslims well we love everything about christians we name our kids EISA & Mariam....however, same can't be said about the christians


& you said states cannot be religious well..... read this

Italy Fights Ban on Crucifixes in Classrooms

Russian Patriarch protests court ruling to ban cross from Italian schools



DOUBLE STANDARDS my friends from "self proclaimed holiness"
 
Pope wants the blasphemy law repealed haha. thats new to me i expected him to be the last person on the earth to do that. He should take care of his sh*t first you know the pedophile cover up , Comparing seculars to nazis, equal rights for gays and one of the most stupid thing that he ever said "condom does not prevent HIV" as much as i think the law is stupid i find it quite ironic that the pope is condeming it.

He forgot to add "If manufactured in India/Pakistan/BD. Most of the religious fanatics in subcontinent are outcome of this manufacturing defects. We should improve our testing capabilities" :lol:
 
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Originally Posted by ice_man View Post
where was this self proclaimed "his holiness" when the danish made the miages offending millions of muslims?

where was this pope when france banned veil

or when switzerland banned minarets

or when this self proclaimed holiness launched a "CRUSADE" against the muslims in the 10th century!


i am sorry but islam is going through the similar phase as other religions at one point or another!

We have already discussed the above topic....

@ topic: Blasphemy law is a tool to oppress minorities, Mr Tasir was a good person, he came and met us when some fanatic blew our Mosque...

We Ahmedies believe that Prophet Muhammad was one of the prophet but not the last... and for our belief the blasphemy law is tool to terrorize us... it must go, Tasir was right bout it...
 
the pope has no business to poke his nose in our affairs.

No he has no right, but as a responsible nation the state must see that the law must not curb the civil rights....

You will say that India is doing the same, but at the same time we are open for critics... freedom of speech is (till it is not unconstitutional) allowed in India and practiced pretty well..
 
We have already discussed the above topic....

@ topic: Blasphemy law is a tool to oppress minorities, Mr Tasir was a good person, he came and met us when some fanatic blew our Mosque...

We Ahmedies believe that Prophet Muhammad was one of the prophet but not the last... and for our belief the blasphemy law is tool to terrorize us... it must go, Tasir was right bout it...


yes you can have as many prophets as you want and worship whatever you want BUT when you link yourself to US and call yourself muslim then you can't be two faced! either you are a muslim or not a muslim....if not then simple don't relate to us....like the jews,christians hindus buddhist don't relate to us!


so ahmedis can't fly with eagles and call themelves a duck!


and let's not divert and discuss AHMEDIS please!!!! let's stick to the topic!
 
No he has no right, but as a responsible nation the state must see that the law must not curb the civil rights....

You will say that India is doing the same, but at the same time we are open for critics... freedom of speech is (till it is not unconstitutional) allowed in India and practiced pretty well..

be happy with your freedom of speech........:coffee:
 
No he has no right, but as a responsible nation the state must see that the law must not curb the civil rights....

You will say that India is doing the same, but at the same time we are open for critics... freedom of speech is (till it is not unconstitutional) allowed in India and practiced pretty well..

what sort of freedom of speech you are talking here regarding pope.....

where was he when someone tried to burn Quran... where was he when someone tried to draw cartoons etc. he just wanted a freedom of speech where his/non muslims point of view is considered...

we cant talk/deny holocast.... what sort of freedom of speech is this???

He is most evil face on earth i have ever seen.....
 
well sorry but Chrisitans have already gone down that road before....by having their crusades and calling muslims enemies of god!

and blasphemy law doesn't say kill every non muslim please read it through!


Chrisitans KNIGHTED SALMAN RUSHDIE! in ENGLAND which clearly has a blasphemy law in place.....


double standards????

and as for muslims well we love everything about christians we name our kids EISA & Mariam....however, same can't be said about the christians


& you said states cannot be religious well..... read this

Italy Fights Ban on Crucifixes in Classrooms

Russian Patriarch protests court ruling to ban cross from Italian schools



DOUBLE STANDARDS my friends from "self proclaimed holiness"

Umm dude you need to learn more about secularism which is being practised in those CHRISTIAN nations which seek to make everybody comfortable including their minority religion citizens such as MUSLIMS. That is a far cry from your blashphemy laws. Your argument seems to centre around the fact that in the 1400s there was this crusade which damned Islam as a heretic religion and hence Islam should be allowed to "evolve" as Christianity did over the years. With respect, you are insulting your religion with that argument
 
Umm dude you need to learn more about secularism which is being practised in those CHRISTIAN nations which seek to make everybody comfortable including their minority religion citizens such as MUSLIMS. That is a far cry from your blashphemy laws. Your argument seems to centre around the fact that in the 1400s there was this crusade which damned Islam as a heretic religion and hence Islam should be allowed to "evolve" as Christianity did over the years. With respect, you are insulting your religion with that argument


islam i am sorry doesn't need any reform or evolution it was completed in the time of the prophet!

as for blasphemy law well currently all your "modern" nations still have the law

Blasphemy law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

secondly as for comfort "for minorities" you miss the point about how ITALY has an out cry about removing crucifixes from SCHOOLS!


to be honest you have no argument blasphemy law exists in europe too
 
Umm dude you need to learn more about secularism which is being practised in those CHRISTIAN nations which seek to make everybody comfortable including their minority religion citizens such as MUSLIMS. That is a far cry from your blashphemy laws. Your argument seems to centre around the fact that in the 1400s there was this crusade which damned Islam as a heretic religion and hence Islam should be allowed to "evolve" as Christianity did over the years. With respect, you are insulting your religion with that argument

In Europe and elsewhere in Christian majority lands, Christians are allowed to freely ring bells openly in Churches, while Muslims are denied call to Azaan, this is a fact, there is no need to argue. You have raised an issue which you have said without knowledge.

We even have a portion in the Flag which represents the minorities.

pakistan.jpg


The green part is majority Muslims, while White part is for minorities, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, etc. To show they are part of us and we are proud. Show me one Western Flag which has a part representing Non Christians or minority Muslims?

Moreover, there's a misconception that minorities are ruled by our law in Pakistan in all matters of theirs, and are helpless. No such is false! Do you know that in Pakistan, a Non Muslims matters can be resolved through their own personal law in courts while a Muslim living in the West, forget the middle ages in West, is still not allowed to practice their personal law? For example regarding issues like divorce and marriage, a Muslim is subject to Western Law living inside USA or Canada, even though they do not conform with his Way of life. While in Pakistani courts, a Non Muslim will be judged according to their own personal law in matters of marriage divorce, inheritance. I guess the West still needs to learn on tolerance, and the so called Barbaric Law followers can still teach some tolerance to the Western Secular governments, which they still haven't learned.

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Umm dude you need to learn more about secularism which is being practised in those CHRISTIAN nations which seek to make everybody comfortable including their minority religion citizens such as MUSLIMS. That is a far cry from your blashphemy laws. Your argument seems to centre around the fact that in the 1400s there was this crusade which damned Islam as a heretic religion and hence Islam should be allowed to "evolve" as Christianity did over the years. With respect, you are insulting your religion with that argument

In Europe and elsewhere in Christian majority lands, Christians are allowed to freely ring bells openly in Churches, while Muslims are denied call to Azaan, this is a fact, there is no need to argue. You have raised an issue which you have said without knowledge.

We even have a portion in the Flag which represents the minorities.

pakistan.jpg


The green part is majority Muslims, while White part is for minorities, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, etc. To show they are part of us and we are proud. Show me one Western Flag which has a part representing Non Christians or minority Muslims?

Moreover, there's a misconception that minorities are ruled by our law in Pakistan in all matters of theirs, and are helpless. No such is false! Do you know that in Pakistan, a Non Muslims matters can be resolved through their own personal law in courts while a Muslim living in the West, forget the middle ages in West, is still not allowed to practice their personal law? For example regarding issues like divorce and marriage, a Muslim is subject to Western Law living inside USA or Canada, even though they do not conform with his Way of life. While in Pakistani courts, a Non Muslim will be judged according to their own personal law in matters of marriage divorce, inheritance. I guess the West still needs to learn on tolerance, and the so called Barbaric Law followers can still teach some tolerance to the Western Secular governments, which they still haven't learned.
 
But His Holiness is minding his own business. Pakistan has sentenced a christian for offending the Blasphemy laws. The Pope represents the christians. Therefore the Pope is going about his business in calling for a repeal of that law.

so what happend to India's most used proverb, "If you are in Rome do rome",

so its a Pakistani law, like it or not, you have to follow it, like everyone
 

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