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What I wrote is a fact not insult.. you should firstly differ facts from insults.

5 negatives is too many for one month! You're even stricter than Sudis themselves!!!

I'm sure all of my negative rating will be removed soon. I'm almost 5 years in this forum and I only got 5 negative ratings. And I had 8 positive ratings and @The Eagle removed 5 of them.

You guys should firstly be Pakistanis then Saudis.

very easy 2 step process

  1. improve quality of your posts and stay civil
  2. don't force admin to adhere to your criteria on running this forum

if you fail to see anything wrong with your troublesome posts then you will get more negative ratings in even shorter time.

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Ok guys. My point is B-52 can be easily shot down with s300 and even s200. No worries there.
I hope it never comes to that level of hostilities
I pray that Americans take their warmongering to North Korea or Americas and leave us alone
 
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I hope it never comes to that level of hostilities
I pray that Americans take their warmongering to North Korea or Americas and leave us alone

This is what we need to do for them to leave us alone.

1. We need to set our differences aside.
2. We need to cooperate and rebuild Afghanistan and Iraq. If Afghanistan and Iraq return to normal countries, US will have to leave bot countries.
3. Countries hosting US bases must ask them to leave.
4. We must show that we won't let them manipulate us against each other.
5. Create Muslim Nato

This is all it takes, but sadly, it will never happen.
 
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This is what we need to do for them to leave us alone.

1. We need to set our differences aside.
2. We need to cooperate and rebuild Afghanistan and Iraq. If Afghanistan and Iraq return to normal countries, US will have to leave bot countries.
3. Countries hosting US bases must ask them to leave.
4. We must show that we won't let them manipulate us against each other.
5. Create Muslim Nato

This is all it takes, but sadly, it will never happen.

er Iraq
best wishes . well played in working together with Iraq to defeat the Daesh. its good that Iran has approached Turkey as well and all three countries together can bring peace in Iraq that will have positive effect on Kurdish issue as well

re Afghanistan some positives
Taliban have reconciled with Iran
Taliban, Iran and Pakistan see Daesh as common threat

now negatives
Afghan regime is hostile to Pakistan
India is in Afghanistan for second front against Pakistan
India supports Baloch insurgency and TTP terrorism
Americans dont seem to be interested in peace
they assassinate negotiating Taliban leaders & then tell Pakistan to bring next group of taliban to table
Iran has close ties with India & Afghan regime and this contradicts with the peace mission in Pakistani Baluchistan, Iranian Sestan & Afghanistan

I want to be realistic and start small and local. if Iran can address Indian & Northern Alliance subversion in Pakistan then there is hope that we can end the foreign sponsored Baloch insurgency that has a sectarian face in Iran and an ethnic in Pakistan. we must even include Russia and China to help in destroying Daesh that is brought inside Afghanistan by Americans

I dont have any hope of Muslim reconciliation at bigger stage and Muslim NATO is just debate club we are no longer Muslims only Shia or Daesh infused Sunnis it may take our life time to get a leader who can resolve our differences or a grand tragedy of such a big proportion that hundreds of millions of Muslims are killed across the muslim world that these racist and shameless leaders of Arab & non Arab countries finally join together,

Yemen & Syria are a tragedy where even Israelis are openly taking sides and their bombings get cheers by rebels which I find disturbing as I find the indiscriminate bombing in Yemen. in Yemen KSA for me is more to blame than Iran. its the rerun of 50s to 60s Egyptian campaign

I am very clear about Yemen & Syria that KSA and its allies like America Israel & UAE are more to blame because of their open or hidden support of Daesh and its offshoots

coming back to American threat on Iran
its open and naked aggression and savagery. the racism and sectarian hatred of Arabs have blinded them to an extent that they are cheering Israelis and Americans to invade Iran
 
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This is what we need to do for them to leave us alone.

1. We need to set our differences aside.
2. We need to cooperate and rebuild Afghanistan and Iraq. If Afghanistan and Iraq return to normal countries, US will have to leave bot countries.
3. Countries hosting US bases must ask them to leave.
4. We must show that we won't let them manipulate us against each other.
5. Create Muslim Nato

This is all it takes, but sadly, it will never happen.
1. Muslims in this age are split on sectarian grounds, and are unable to get along well. Belief system of Shia and Ahmedi contradict that of Sunni to such an extent that inter-marriages are difficult or frown upon.

2. Iran is just as bad as US in its interventionist designs. Look around the Middle East and you will notice Iran-backed militias in different countries such as Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Bahrain and Lebanon. These militias are like a state within a state, and therefore not popular and/or fuel animosty. In Syria, Iran supported a murderous scum in ruining the lives of millions of people - do you think these people will forget and forgive?

3. Iraq can never return to normalcy as long as it is split on the lines of US-backed and Iran-backed elements.

4. GCC members in the Middle East are hosting American military bases because they fear Iran and its interventionist designs. In fact, US saved Qatar from Saudi intervention - Saudi leadership publicily admitted this. Nevertheless, KSA saved Bahrain from Iran-led coup effort. KSA is also trying to suppress Iran-backed Houthi rebellion in Yemen, and Yemen have suffered a major humanitarian crisis in turn.

5. Iranian effort to encircle Israel is a very dangerous move, a move which might set the stage of a war the likes of we (Muslims) have not experienced before.

So who is manipulating whom? And how the aforementioned mess will be sorted out? You tell me.

This might surprise you but a large number of Muslims do not feel sorry for you because for Iran to cry wolf is utterly hypocritical.
 
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Afghan regime is hostile to Pakistan
India is in Afghanistan for second front against Pakistan
India supports Baloch insurgency and TTP terrorism
Americans dont seem to be interested in peace
they assassinate negotiating Taliban leaders & then tell Pakistan to bring next group of taliban to table
Iran has close ties with India & Afghan regime and this contradicts with the peace mission in Pakistani Baluchistan, Iranian Sestan & Afghanistan

If we rebuild Afghanistan we do not need to do anything regarding India. Afghans will kick the Indians out themselves.

I don't know enough about Baloch insurgency in Pakistan to comment on that.

Americans don't want peace, that is true but the opposite of peace is war and we need to show them that peace is the only option. We don't need to threaten them with all our power and threaten with retaliation etc. We just need to show that a war with any muslim country in the region means a war with all muslim countries in the region.

Iran needs close ties to India because as you know, sadly we have almost no friends and are almost completely alone. IMO We need to have good ties with as many countries at possible.

We need to invest in the region and keep the region safe. If you own a house, isn't the safety of your front and backyard as important as your door?

I want to be realistic and start small and local. if Iran can address Indian & Northern Alliance subversion in Pakistan then there is hope that we can end the foreign sponsored Baloch insurgency that has a sectarian face in Iran and an ethnic in Pakistan. we must even include Russia and China to help in destroying Daesh that is brought inside Afghanistan by Americans

Iran has no influence over Balochs in Pakistan. And when it comes to India we have this dilemma that we need India because we have no one else. It's sad but it's the truth. If we had the support of all muslim countries then why need India?

I dont have any hope of Muslim reconciliation at bigger stage and Muslim NATO is just debate club we are no longer Muslims only Shia or Daesh infused Sunnis it may take our life time to get a leader who can resolve our differences or a grand tragedy of such a big proportion that hundreds of millions of Muslims are killed across the muslim world that these racist and shameless leaders of Arab & non Arab countries finally join together,

I agree with you here 100%

Yemen & Syria are a tragedy where even Israelis are openly taking sides and their bombings get cheers by rebels which I find disturbing as I find the indiscriminate bombing in Yemen. in Yemen KSA for me is more to blame than Iran. its the rerun of 50s to 60s Egyptian campaign

I am very clear about Yemen & Syria that KSA and its allies like America Israel & UAE are more to blame because of their open or hidden support of Daesh and its offshoots

Here is the failure of muslim nations. We should never let any country bomb a muslim country. Iran has influence and a great stake at risk in Syria, naturally we intervened, but as for Yemen I do not believe we have any part in the war. Even if we wanted to intervene, we don't have influence there.

I believe we muslims are "cursed". In Quran it is mentioned that if one muslim feels pain, the entire ummah will feel the pain. How can we live in peace when there are muslims suffering in so many muslim countries while we just ignore their call for help? If Allah asks us in the hereafter why we didn't answer our fellow muslims call for help, what are we going to answer? I believe the root cause of all this evil is Saudi and GCC Arabs and their blind support of US and Israel. Would the US have any influence in our region if it weren't for them?

Whether Iran is wrong or right, it is doing all it can in the name of its own ideology. If there is any country that can break peace between muslim countries it is Pakistan. When will we see Pakistan put on big boy pants and do what it is destined to?
 
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1. Muslims in this age are split on sectarian grounds, and are unable to get along well. Belief system of Shia and Ahmedi contradict that of Sunni to such an extent that inter-marriages are difficult or frown upon.

2. Iran is just as bad as US in its interventionist designs. Look around the Middle East and you will notice Iran-backed militias in different countries such as Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Bahrain and Lebanon. These militias are like a state within a state, and therefore not popular and/or fuel animosty. In Syria, Iran supported a murderous scum in ruining the lives of millions of people - do you think these people will forget and forgive?

3. Iraq can never return to normalcy as long as it is split on the lines of US-backed and Iran-backed elements.

4. GCC members in the Middle East are hosting American military bases because they fear Iran and its interventionist designs. In fact, US saved Qatar from Saudi intervention - Saudi leadership publicily admitted this. Nevertheless, KSA saved Bahrain from Iran-led coup effort. KSA is also trying to suppress Iran-backed Houthi rebellion in Yemen, and Yemen have suffered a major humanitarian crisis in turn.

5. Iranian effort to encircle Israel is a very dangerous move, a move which might set the stage of a war the likes of we (Muslims) have not experienced before.

So who is manipulating whom? And how the aforementioned mess will be sorted out? You tell me.

This might surprise you but a large number of Muslims do not feel sorry for you because for Iran to cry wolf is utterly hypocritical.
long post and you are free to express your opinion
just few pointers

you omitted the sponsors of Daesh , Al Qaeda & its affiliates that have done unimaginable crimes against Humanity in Iraq and Syria

Iranian poxy war was never one sided it has a Saudi counter part as well .. unfortunately with consequences spanning in the entire Muslim world

finally you put Ahmedis and shias in same category vs Sunnis which is unfortunate.
because Shia Sunni divide is on Fiqh whereas re Ahmedis its about finality of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH .

I am from the era where shia sunni intermarriages have been celebrated with examples in my own family where we participated in Moharam processions by providing food and water to mourners and even attended the majalis. proudly introducing our members of the other sect to our friends.

those days are gone now for sure and if if this post made you frown then you got to live with it because I feel proud to be a tolerant and inclusive Muslim of all sects.

your views are most welcome though
 
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i think irani government has failed to understand the current situation.trump will not think again if he wants to attack.this conflict in iran is terrible for pakistan.finally irani mullah regime will fight against american kaffirs but who cares! we should seal the border.i hope irani mentality will change after cruise missile attacks from american navy.pakistan isn't house of refugees.seal the border.
 
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If we rebuild Afghanistan we do not need to do anything regarding India. Afghans will kick the Indians out themselves.

I don't know enough about Baloch insurgency in Pakistan to comment on that.

Americans don't want peace, that is true but the opposite of peace is war and we need to show them that peace is the only option. We don't need to threaten them with all our power and threaten with retaliation etc. We just need to show that a war with any muslim country in the region means a war with all muslim countries in the region.

Iran needs close ties to India because as you know, sadly we have almost no friends and are almost completely alone. IMO We need to have good ties with as many countries at possible.

We need to invest in the region and keep the region safe. If you own a house, isn't the safety of your front and backyard as important as your door?



Iran has no influence over Balochs in Pakistan. And when it comes to India we have this dilemma that we need India because we have no one else. It's sad but it's the truth. If we had the support of all muslim countries then why need India?



I agree with you here 100%



Here is the failure of muslim nations. We should never let any country bomb a muslim country. Iran has influence and a great stake at risk in Syria, naturally we intervened, but as for Yemen I do not believe we have any part in the war. Even if we wanted to intervene, we don't have influence there.

I believe we muslims are "cursed". In Quran it is mentioned that if one muslim feels pain, the entire ummah will feel the pain. How can we live in peace when there are muslims suffering in so many muslim countries while we just ignore their call for help? If Allah asks us in the hereafter why we didn't answer our fellow muslims call for help, what are we going to answer? I believe the root cause of all this evil is Saudi and GCC Arabs and their blind support of US and Israel. Would the US have any influence in our region if it weren't for them?

Whether Iran is wrong or right, it is doing all it can in the name of its own ideology. If there is any country that can break peace between muslim countries it is Pakistan. When will we see Pakistan put on big boy pants and do what it is destined to?
are you really from Iran? its a positive question
I am impressed and thanks for prudent reply
 
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BREAKING: U.S. warns merchant ships of possible Iranian attacks in Middle East.





Meanwhile, the USS Abraham Lincoln alongside Carrier Strike Group 12 transit through the Suez Canal



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US fleet is in Persian gulf for years.
But this time US needs to KEEP these bombers and AC in PG...because if they dont stay, Iran can go back to its mischief.
Im worried the US is talking a tough talk it wont/cant actually back up. US is afraid of a war it has to fight because Iran provoked the US.
 
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1. Muslims in this age are split on sectarian grounds, and are unable to get along well. Belief system of Shia and Ahmedi contradict that of Sunni to such an extent that inter-marriages are difficult or frown upon.

2. Iran is just as bad as US in its interventionist designs. Look around the Middle East and you will notice Iran-backed militias in different countries such as Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Bahrain and Lebanon. These militias are like a state within a state, and therefore not popular and/or fuel animosty. In Syria, Iran supported a murderous scum in ruining the lives of millions of people - do you think these people will forget and forgive?

3. Iraq can never return to normalcy as long as it is split on the lines of US-backed and Iran-backed elements.

4. GCC members in the Middle East are hosting American military bases because they fear Iran and its interventionist designs. In fact, US saved Qatar from Saudi intervention - Saudi leadership publicily admitted this. Nevertheless, KSA saved Bahrain from Iran-led coup effort. KSA is also trying to suppress Iran-backed Houthi rebellion in Yemen, and Yemen have suffered a major humanitarian crisis in turn.

5. Iranian effort to encircle Israel is a very dangerous move, a move which might set the stage of a war the likes of we (Muslims) have not experienced before.

So who is manipulating whom? And how the aforementioned mess will be sorted out? You tell me.

This might surprise you but a large number of Muslims do not feel sorry for you because for Iran to cry wolf is utterly hypocritical.
40 years of empty barkings and our forces are few miles further than Quds !
But this time US needs to KEEP these bombers and AC in PG...because if they dont stay, Iran can go back to its mischief.
Im worried the US is talking a tough talk it wont/cant actually back up. US is afraid of a war it has to fight because Iran provoked the US.
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