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I understand that US has dealt with the likes of Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan for a long period of time and now you live in delusion that Russia is some sort of another Libya, but Russia is not in that Class of countries.

Sorry but the U.S. was trained and still trained to take on countries like Russia and China. That's just how it is. That is something the U.S. is good at in fighting conventional warfare.
Russia is a country in a Rank of a World Power. Russia is not the kind of a country whom you can dictate your Red Lines or impose No-Fly zones like in Libya without FACING SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES.
No I believe the USAF can take down the Russian air force, there will be consequences for the Russians since they are facing against more powerful enemy compared to Ukraine.

I understand your delusion when you think the world revolves around US and the West, and you are the only one who establish the rules, bomb other countries and impose Red Lines, but this is not like that at all.

Russia is not the kind of country that needs lectures from the West of what it can do and what it can't.

It was not CSTO that expanded its borders to Mexico for the purpose of creating strategic threat to US. It was NATO that decided to ignore Russia's core strategic interests and expand its borders to 400kms away from Moscow.

If today NATO wants to impose its rules and unjustified red lines and say that if Russia does this or that in Ukraine, NATO will intervene and bomb Russian forces....What will happen tomorrow when Ukraine joins NATO and NATO positions its forces 400kms away from Moscow? NATO will say, if Russia does this or that, NATO will attack Russian targets in Moscow...This shows why Russia's war against Ukraine is justified by Russia's National Security Concerns.
And if Russia takes Ukraine then they bordered Poland and it makes it even more dangerous that NATO will have to intervene with justification?

I understand that fanboys of this forum like to watch videos of how young Russians are dying on the front of this WAR and they don't care that Russian casualties have climbed to 250.000 troops including 70.000 dead, which is more than US loses in Vietnam/Iraq1991/Iraq2003/Yugoslavia/Libya/Afghanistan COMBINED..
They will not even care if Russian casualties climb to 500.000 in the next two years. But because they don't care doesn't mean that Russia and Russians don't care.

Now if this war lasts for two more years, Russia can lose this war and suffer another 250.000 casualties, but Russia is not ready to accept another 250.000 casualties, defeat and humiliation.
That's Russia's problem since they lost around 15k in Afghanistan and left humiliated and defeat and the fall of the Soviet Union afterwards.

Of course in current circumstances you can take a lesson from American teachers of how to end the war quickly, with minimum costs and casualties and with victory by learning about US behavior towards Japan in 1945.

If you think that in current dire circumstances Russia using tactical nuclear weapons against the enemy (that inflicted 250.000 casualties on Russia) is not a reality, than maybe you will listen to US Colonel and US President?

Col.Daniel Davis: Russia will use nuclear weapons under these two circumstances.

Biden says threat of Putin using tactical nuclear weapons is 'real'

And now if we assume Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine for the purpose of preventing its defeat and humiliation OR enforcing capitulation of the enemy...what will be NATO's reaction?

First of all Russia is NOT attacking NATO territory and is NOT shooting at NATO troops. What happens between Russia and Ukraine should not be US concern or NATO concern since they have no any obligations to Ukraine and in such circumstances aggression by NATO against Russia will be totally unjustified.

People are under influence of Western propaganda and say that NATO will strike Russian military, if Russia uses nukes in a country that NATO has zero obligations to protect. If you think that you can bomb Russia like Libya and Russia will accept its defeat and humiliation and not respond- then you are wrong. You don't understand that any strike by NATO at Russian military will be an ACT OF WAR. It will certainly trigger an escalatory spiral that will lead to WWIII and potentially to nuclear exchange that can kill hundreds of millions of people and it will be NATO's fault, because it was them who started the escalatory spiral by shooting at Russian military in act of unprovoked and reckless aggression.

But if you want to fight WWIII and die because of East European Brothel named Ukraine, whom you have zero obligations to protect, so be it.....At least Russia can kill 954mln inhabitants of the West, while the West can kill only 150mln Russians....
Russia wants the Baltics and Poland back. Even Putin is still lying about saving Poland just recently even though the Soviet Union with Germany invaded Poland together. He talks about saving Ukraine, well you know what his plans are with Poland about saving them.
 
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Russia wants the Baltics and Poland back. Even Putin is still lying about saving Poland just recently even though the Soviet Union with Germany invaded Poland together. He talks about saving Ukraine, well you know what his plans are with Poland about saving them.
half of the actuall Poland still belongs to Germany.
 
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half of the actuall Poland still belongs to Germany.
I read Hitler invaded because the Poles were killing Germans in Poland. And also killing Russians as well so both Germany and Soviet Union joined together to invade them.
 
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I read Hitler invaded because the Poles were killing Germans in Poland

Yes, polish slaughtered germans in the ex german teritories. Even the suggestion that polish should let leave the germans to germany was abondened by polish, the did not let the germans go to germany but kill them trying.
 
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Yes, polish slaughtered germans in the ex german teritories. Even the suggestion that polish should let leave the germans to germany was abondened by polish, the did not let the germans go to germany but kill them trying.


well lets be honest not exactly like the Germans were angels now was it

Europeans love war when not killing each other you do it in Africa or Middle East

so please stay busy in Europe for the next 10 years it will give everyone else a break
 
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Sure, to have another east Germany to swallow recources. This is for sure going to happen.

What "another east Germany"? There is only one east Germany. What you think what east Germany is, is middle Germany. East Germany in real is half of today Poland.

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What "another east Germany"? There is only one east Germany. What you think what east Germany is, is middle Germany. East Germany in real is half of today Poland.

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"Another east Germany", still economically weaker than the west, this what I meant.

For the map: It was 80 years ago. The reality on the ground is completely different now, it`s 2023.
 
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"Another east Germany", still economically weaker than the west, this what I meant.

For the map: It was 80 years ago. The reality on the ground is completely different now, it`s 2023.

...but there is still no peace treaty, so....
 
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