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Baghdad was built by the natives of Iraq with the help of the persian architectures

The majority of the Abbasid ministers and generals engineers and scientists were from Iraq and persia like al barameka al tahiri and banu buyyeh

So don't claim the achievements of the other people
Baghdad was built and funded by the Sunni Arab empire, lead by an Sunni Arab dynasty who are from Hijaz, now Saudi Arabia, give us back our city, or we will take it by force.
 
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Baghdad was built and funded by the Sunni Arab empire, lead by an Sunni Arab dynasty who are from Hijaz, now Saudi Arabia, give us back our city, or we will take it by force.
Yea right

Go read some history than come later and talk

Do you even know what is the meaning of Baghdad in which languege

The Abbasid family didnt built anything it was done by the people who lived in that land

It's like saying the egyptian kings built the pyramids while it was the people who done all the work not the king

The Abbasids started their movements from khorasan and majority if their followers were from there
 
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@SALMAN AL-FARSI

Yes, just outside of language, religion, culture, geography, climate, ethnicity, traditional clothing, cuisine, music, Arabic dialects and wider ethnicity (Semitic peoples) and ancient pre-Islamic history then indeed Iraq and the Arabian Peninsula share nothing in common. Outside of DNA of course too.

It's like comparing Papuans and Finns in fact. That's how few things the people have in common. Irony might have been used here.

Of course each Arab country is distinct. Just look at Yemen and Oman for instance which are neighbors. Quite a big difference. Still all Arab countries especially neighboring ones have much more in common witch each other than outsiders.

Lastly many of the people that you call "Iraqis" were Arabs no different to Arabs on the Arabian Peninsula with lineages traced directly to people from the Peninsula.

Including almost all the famous ones during the Abbasid Caliphate.

Just like all the Semitic peoples originally came from the Arabian Peninsula and Levant.

Even Sumerians were thought to originate in Eastern Arabia and they for instance considered Dilmun (in Eastern Arabia) as holy land and wrote about it in the Epic of Gilgamesh even.

Farsis have nothing to do with any Arab country or Semitic culture other than copying it and for a short time occupying ancient Semitic lands. That's all.

Outside of Iranian Arabs of course who are almost identical to Southern Iraqis. Speaking the same dialect too.

Baghdad was built and funded by the Sunni Arab empire, lead by an Sunni Arab dynasty who are from Hijaz, now Saudi Arabia, give us back our city, or we will take it by force.

Yes, Abbasids founded Baghdad and ruled it for half a millennium but today Baghdad is part of Iraq and most locals are fellow Arabs whether Shia or Sunni and belong to the same Arab clans and tribes like neighboring Arab countries.

Anyway Iraq can do whatever they want to do. It's less than 3 years ago that they wanted to join but they won't join due to the geopolitics. If I recall only Kuwait and Oman support their membership.

No need to write silly "threats" brother. In the future when the region calms down and the idiotic sectarianism is left aside you will notice and appreciate the many, many similarities instead of those few issues that pick us apart.

Cooperation is the way forward especially economical. No need to hold hands and sing love songs but at least there should not be hostility between brotherly people.

Whether with Iraqis or Yemenis or other Arabs.

I am 100% sure that if you visited Basrah, Samawah, Nasiriyah etc. you would feel right at home outside of a slightly different dialect that you will/have no problem understanding anyway. Same people, same faces, same names even.

The Shia Arabs of Southern Iraq that you might dislike for sectarian reasons are actually extremely close to you people of Najd and vice versa. Both groups know it (the educated ones).

Imagine if Hijazis started hating Egyptians and the people of Sham due to them being Shia? It would make no sense when we have almost everything in common. Or the people of Southern KSA and Yemen?

@Full Moon as a Najdi understands this closeness between you and Southern Iraq and Iraq as a whole.

Population movements between the Arabian Peninsula and neighboring Iraq and Levant have been consistent since the first people crossed into the Arabian Peninsula (first human migration outside of Africa if we are to believe science) from nearby Eastern Africa and then there have been a very large number of population movements from the Peninsula into Levant and Iraq and VICE VERSA too for millenniums and until not long ago ago (150-100 years ago).

In fact a few Assyrian Kings died in exile in what is now Northern KSA millenniums ago.




Anyway most people are ignorants so I am not surprised by such nonsense comments. Most are politically motivated or due to sectarianism in the ME today.

We even have Arabs/Palestinians and Arab Jews denying any relationship contrary to every visible fact. Why? Due to politics and sectarianism and silly hatred.

In general the peoples of the ME share much more in common than differences but the region is almost more divided than Sub-Saharan Africa.
 
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Baghdad was built and funded by the Sunni Arab empire, lead by an Sunni Arab dynasty who are from Hijaz, now Saudi Arabia, give us back our city, or we will take it by force.
The Abbasids were shia at first and they used the couse of their alids cousins but when they reached the power they showed their real backstabbing nature and oppressed the sons of Ali a.s.and their followers

So your Abbasids scums they use the persian hate and the shia hate against the ummyads if wasn't for the shia and the persians your Abbasids dogs couldn't rule shit

Than later backstabbed everyone and they killed abu muslim al khorasani and abu salama but they recieved a revenge from al muqanaa and babak khoramddin and later banu buyyeh treated the Abbasid caliphs like dogs and al janabi blinded many Abbasid caliphs
 
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dream on
iraq is the first civilization on earth and its not for the terrorists


Sumer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

interesting depiction of swastika

Samarra_bowl.jpg
 
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Iraq is an Arab nation with access to the Gulf, but it will never join due to rather obvious reasons.
 
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The Abbasids were shia
Everyone was Shia outside of Sham in that sense. Which was a political movement and not a different religious sect with its own beliefs, mythology, and culture.

Shiasm we have today, where you believe in 12 Imams and curse the two caliphates and adopt the Mythical books of "Alkafi" and others and follow "Wali Faqih" is a later development.
 
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Yea right

Go read some history than come later and talk

Do you even know what is the meaning of Baghdad in which languege

The Abbasid family didnt built anything it was done by the people who lived in that land

It's like saying the egyptian kings built the pyramids while it was the people who done all the work not the king

The Abbasids started their movements from khorasan and majority if their followers were from there

The name is a Middle Persian[12][13][14][15][16][17][18] compound of Bag "god" and dād "given", translating to "God-given" or "God's gift", from which comes Modern Persian Baɣdād. This in turn can be traced to Old Persian.[19]

When the Abbasid caliph, al-Mansur, founded a completely new city for his capital, he chose the name Madinat al-Salaam or City of Peace. This was the official name on coins, weights, and other official usage, although the common people continued to use the old name.[20][21] By the 11th century, "Baghdad" became almost the exclusive name for the world-renowned metropolis.
 
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