PNS Azmat Class - Fast Attack Missile Craft | Updates & Discussions.

[Safriz]

Than we need to work on increasing range and other systems related to it, because you can target several Major Indian cities and towns and Military installations with these small boats and maintain a distance from Indian waters.

For targeting cities or fixed land targets you don't radars , only coordinates.

 

[khanasifm]

Than we need to work on increasing range and other systems related to it, because you can target several Major Indian cities and towns and Military installations with these small boats and maintain a distance from Indian waters.

Azmat class had 1000 nautical mile /1900 km /1200 miles range so for fac more than enough to cover its aor

https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/azmat-class-fast-attack-craft-missile/

 

[Tipu7]

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For country like Pakistan these Missile Boats carrying 6 to 8 Missiles each could be game changers if we can just increase range of Cruise Missiles being used in these ships. If we can increase the range of HARBAH from just 450 KM to 800 KM or even more than it would just a monster and give nightmares to India. Harbah already has achieved ship to land attack capability so just increase the range of Missile and induct a lot more FAC AZMAT and than unleash hell on Mumbai and Goa and Bangluru.

@HRK @Tipu7 @Rafi @Arsalan

FACM primary task is to strike enemy surface vessels. For this role, PN FACM are sufficiently equipped with sufficient range missiles. Only thing needed now is more numbers. PN should increase the size of its FACM fleet to 12 from 8.

 

[Zarvan]

FACM primary task is to strike enemy surface vessels. For this role, PN FACM are sufficiently equipped with sufficient range missiles. Only thing needed now is more numbers. PN should increase the size of its FACM fleet to 12 from 8.

India used Missile boats to target Karachi on 1971. And it's not holy order to only use it for enemy ships. Also you have already showed the intention to use it for land attack role by using Azmat to test land attack version of Harbah

Azmat class had 1000 nautical mile /1900 km /1200 miles range so for fac more than enough to cover its aor

https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/azmat-class-fast-attack-craft-missile/

That is the range of the ship not the Missile, if you have to attack let say a Military installation in Mumbai. You have to come 450 KM close to Mumbai and that is dangerous. Increase the range of Missile and unleash hell. These ships could do a damage which India won't forget plus they need less crew. Russia is big example of how it can be and should be done. They use Missile Boats or very very small Corvettes to fire very long Range Kalibr Cruise Missile. Those ships have very few crew.

For targeting cities or fixed land targets you don't radars , only coordinates.

Yes but if Missile range is only 450 KM that means ship has to be at least 450 KM away from Mumbai or Goa or Bangluru and that is not a safe place to be.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

IMO ... for AShW/LACM, the PN should try designing an cheaper, less complex variant of the FAC(M).

Basically, strip it down to the missile launchers, CMS, and means to receive off-board sensor and targeting support from frigates or aircraft.

Don't worry about anything else. Just station the FACs well within our waters, and fire full-ranged Baburs at land targets, and supersonic AShM at ships.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

IMO ... for AShW/LACM, the PN should try designing an cheaper, less complex variant of the FAC(M).

Basically, strip it down to the missile launchers, CMS, and means to receive off-board sensor and targeting support from frigates or aircraft.

Don't worry about anything else. Just station the FACs well within our waters, and fire full-ranged Baburs at land targets, and supersonic AShM at ships.

And who will guide it?

 

[Zarvan]

IMO ... for AShW/LACM, the PN should try designing an cheaper, less complex variant of the FAC(M).

Basically, strip it down to the missile launchers, CMS, and means to receive off-board sensor and targeting support from frigates or aircraft.

Don't worry about anything else. Just station the FACs well within our waters, and fire full-ranged Baburs at land targets, and supersonic AShM at ships.

You mean 750 KM Range Babur, that is exactly what I am saying we need a 800 KM range Babur on these ships and need more of these ships 12 to 16 of these and Mumbai will face hell. Also Goa and Bangluru

And who will guide it?

For long range coordinates can be fed in Missiles. Am I right @Bilal Khan (Quwa)

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

For long range coordinates can be fed in Missiles. Am I right @Bilal Khan (Quwa)

Hmmm so means no Radar required for it? What about using it for Long Range Anti Ship Weapon? Who will guide it?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

You mean 750 KM Range Babur, that is exactly what I am saying we need a 800 KM range Babur on these ships and need more of these ships 12 to 16 of these and Mumbai will face hell. Also Goa and Bangluru


For long range coordinates can be fed in Missiles. Am I right @Bilal Khan (Quwa)

Well, we should be developing Babur's range even further, i.e., aim for 1,000+ km.

For land-attacks, you'd feed the target info into the missiles directly, they'll go by that (using INS/GPS).

But for anti-ship ops, you need a radar to track the target and guide the missile to the vicinity until it's close enough to solely rely on its own seeker. This off-board sensor can be aircraft, frigates, etc, maybe even a drone.

 

[Zarvan]

Hmmm so means no Radar required for it? What about using it for Long Range Anti Ship Weapon? Who will guide it?

For a fixed target on land No

Hmmm so means no Radar required for it? What about using it for Long Range Anti Ship Weapon? Who will guide it?

That is required for moving ships and other such moving targets

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

I am saying we need a 800 KM range Babur on these ships and need more of these ships 12 to 16 of these and Mumbai

Your Land Launched Babur can hit Mumbai too

 

[Zarvan]

Your Land Launched Babur can hit Mumbai too

That doesn't mean your Navy can't and should not do it and no land attack Babur range is only 750 KM. Not enough for Mumbai

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

That doesn't mean your Navy can't and should not do it and no land attack Babur range is only 750 KM. Not enough for Mumbai

Badin to Mumbai is 745 km

 

[Zarvan]

Badin to Mumbai is 745 km

You should always have a margin of 80 to 100 KM

 

[aziqbal]

I am a big fan for the Azmat Class and we should certainly be building the 5th and 6th ships