PNS Azmat Class - Fast Attack Missile Craft | Updates & Discussions.

[Dazzler]

These boats don't have radar powerful enough to utilize the range of their missiles unless aided by spotters,its air defence capability is negligible .As for sonars it doesn't have any useful ASW suite.SO much for the whole system.Your navy builds these simply because of financial issues.



These boats don't have radar powerful enough to utilize the range of their missiles unless aided by spotters,its air defence capability is negligible .As for sonars it doesn't have any useful ASW suite.SO much for the whole system.Your navy builds these simply because of financial issues.



Our naval doctrine aims at blue water navy,where there is no use for these limited ships.We build a few fast interceptor crafts for coast guard to deal with maritime safety and thats it.Even our latest corvettes are 3000 tonnes,which are light frigates in all but name.

Never knew your IN going for an Aegis combat system for their missile boats.

 

[Black Eagle 90]

PN needs to build a newer version of it with 700 tons displacement fitted with 3 powerful Electric Azi Pods, 8Cell AShMs, 3Cell-Torpedo tubes on either sides, Single CIWS with its sensors, 50/57mm Main gun and instead of single boat fitted with two boats....

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Never knew your IN going for an Aegis combat system for their missile boats.

We don't intend to build missile boats in the first place.Our aegis type systems will be on destroyers,something PN only pretends to have with fake designations on old light frigates.

 

[Dazzler]

We don't intend to build missile boats in the first place.Our aegis type systems will be on destroyers,something PN only pretends to have with fake designations on old light frigates.

your Aegis type systems.... such as?

 

[satishkumarcsc]

your Aegis type systems.... such as?

MF Star coupled with the BARAK system.

 

[farhan_9909]

the ministry of defence production report of last year mention that KSEW has is manufacturing corvette for Navy

IF someone remember the MSL chair person reported that they have offered a design of a 1000ton to navy.if they select it than KSEW can manufacture it for them


I hope KSEW take some indigenous project and rather build something in the lines of 1500-2000tons corvette for the PN.as they will be cheaper than buying the design first and and manufacturing them than locally like the PNS azmat

 

[Nishan_101]

the ministry of defence production report of last year mention that KSEW has is manufacturing corvette for Navy

IF someone remember the MSL chair person reported that they have offered a design of a 1000ton to navy.if they select it than KSEW can manufacture it for them


I hope KSEW take some indigenous project and rather build something in the lines of 1500-2000tons corvette for the PN.as they will be cheaper than buying the design first and and manufacturing them than locally like the PNS azmat

I am sure KSEW wants to expand, also PN should try to take some help from Western as well as Chinese expert in order to make these equipment on their own:
3800-4100 Tons Frigate(with all VLS capability for launching AShM/Cruise Missiles and Anti Air missiles)
2100-2500 Tons Corvette(with all VLS capability for launching AShM/Cruise Missiles and Anti Air missiles)
700-750 Tons FAC (with all VLS capability for launching AShM/Cruise Missiles and Torpedoes Launchers)

Also to do JV with Gemrany on Submarines...

 

[Zarvan]

I am sure KSEW wants to expand, also PN should try to take some help from Western as well as Chinese expert in order to make these equipment on their own:
3800-4100 Tons Frigate(with all VLS capability for launching AShM/Cruise Missiles and Anti Air missiles)
2100-2500 Tons Corvette(with all VLS capability for launching AShM/Cruise Missiles and Anti Air missiles)
700-750 Tons FAC (with all VLS capability for launching AShM/Cruise Missiles and Torpedoes Launchers)

Also to do JV with Gemrany on Submarines...

Sir by 2025 Pakistan navy should have the size off which now days turkey has and yes agree with other points and we need them fast

 

[Nishan_101]

Sir by 2025 Pakistan navy should have the size off which now days turkey has and yes agree with other points and we need them fast

@Zarvan Dear Brother. I think PN should develop some good facility at Gawadar Port as well like take the eastern and western part of the port and make two mega ship yards there along with Naval facility. So that middle portion of the port would be clear for the fisheries and port duties.

Also in this way PN could keep it equipment away from the Public eyes too. Also same procedures should be adopted at Karachi and at Ormara too.

If not wrong then PN should look towards:
21 SSK 3000 tons
16 SSK 1500 tons
11 SSK 700 tons

15 Frigates 3800-4100 tons
11 Corvettes 2100-2500 tons
16 FAC 700-750 tons

and a good deal of other equipment too.

Although not cheap to maintain but INSHA ALLAH our economy will grow.

 

[Zarvan]

@Zarvan Dear Brother. I think PN should develop some good facility at Gawadar Port as well like take the eastern and western part of the port and make two mega ship yards there along with Naval facility. So that middle portion of the port would be clear for the fisheries and port duties.

Also in this way PN could keep it equipment away from the Public eyes too. Also same procedures should be adopted at Karachi and at Ormara too.

If not wrong then PN should look towards:
21 SSK 3000 tons
16 SSK 1500 tons
11 SSK 700 tons

15 Frigates 3800-4100 tons
11 Corvettes 2100-2500 tons
16 FAC 700-750 tons

and a good deal of other equipment too.

Although not cheap to maintain but INSHA ALLAH our economy will grow.

Sir completely agree Sir our enemy is getting too big that size you mentioned is the minimum size we should have Sir and equip them with most latest missiles Sir

 

[Nishan_101]

Sir completely agree Sir our enemy is getting too big that size you mentioned is the minimum size we should have Sir and equip them with most latest missiles Sir

But now there are many people since 3 years on Defence.pk that says we don't have money. Actually we had money before this time which we can utilized properly. But still there are good people joining Military as well as other departments too. Just we need some courage to make it happen.

JAZAKALLAH Brother.

 

[Donatello]

MF Star coupled with the BARAK system.

Barak is Aegis type? you must be joking.

Mig-21 must be F-15 by that logic.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Barak is Aegis type? you must be joking.

Mig-21 must be F-15 by that logic.

Well with BARAK 8 it will be. You missed out the MF-STAR. Aegis has two categories. The Aegis Combat System for self defence and the Aegis BMD with the RIM 174 for Ballistic missile defence. Both are derivatives of the SM-2 platform.

The Heart of the Aegis being the AN/SPY-1 Radar which is similar to the MF-STAR

http://www.iai.co.il/sip_storage/FILES/3/27543.pdf

 

[Gentelman]

@Zarvan Dear Brother. I think PN should develop some good facility at Gawadar Port as well like take the eastern and western part of the port and make two mega ship yards there along with Naval facility. So that middle portion of the port would be clear for the fisheries and port duties.

Also in this way PN could keep it equipment away from the Public eyes too. Also same procedures should be adopted at Karachi and at Ormara too.

If not wrong then PN should look towards:
21 SSK 3000 tons
16 SSK 1500 tons
11 SSK 700 tons

15 Frigates 3800-4100 tons
11 Corvettes 2100-2500 tons
16 FAC 700-750 tons

and a good deal of other equipment too.

Although not cheap to maintain but INSHA ALLAH our economy will grow.

reduce Corvettes to 6-8and FAC to 8-10
and all combination of subs total to 20 rather than 49 to make that list real……

 

[S.Y.A]

reduce Corvettes to 6-8and FAC to 8-10
and all combination of subs total to 20 rather than 49 to make that list real……

i would say the figure for FACs is right, and 12 subs should be enough. retire frigates and instead use more corvettes(they would be smaller and faster and so hard to detect)