PNS Alamgir sets sail for Pakistan

[Penguin]

Where is PNS Alamgir? There seems to be sort of mystere developing here. I do hope it did nort skirt the "Triangle" on her maiden voyage as PNS Alamgir

- at sea, working up and/or exercising with other navies?
- at another port than Karachi (given recent events, her also being ex-US equipment)?
- at Karachi, well tucked away from view?

certainly NIMBY!

 

[Arsalan]

so herer we are, the ship is arriving and regardless of claim of "heavy upgardation and modification" all have proved to be nothing but a false claim.
here we have a boat, deprived of Mk-13 (the much appreciated asset that some people claimed to make this a better platform then the F-22p frigates), absolutley no anti air capability and 30 years old sturcture. Haa!

it was stated that this will be the most capable ship in PN fleet. i sincerely wish, for betterment of nation, this is not the case at this is actually nothing.

yes, its good to keep presence in anti paracy missions so that the F-22p can be spared to defence the pak seas!

Arsalan Aslam

 

[Penguin]

so herer we are, the ship is arriving and regardless of claim of "heavy upgardation and modification" all have proved to be nothing but a false claim.
here we have a boat, deprived of Mk-13 (the much appreciated asset that some people claimed to make this a better platform then the F-22p frigates), absolutley no anti air capability and 30 years old sturcture. Haa!

it was stated that this will be the most capable ship in PN fleet. i sincerely wish, for betterment of nation, this is not the case at this is actually nothing.

yes, its good to keep presence in anti paracy missions so that the F-22p can be spared to defence the pak seas!

Arsalan Aslam

There is nothing wrong with her ASW fit. If and when PN retires Type 21s, it can install Harpoons from those ships onto any Perry's. All you then need is some air selfdefence augmentation e.g. FL3000Ns from China or RAM from the US. Might even stick the LY60 from the Type 21 onto the first few.

 

[Arsalan]

There is nothing wrong with her ASW fit. If and when PN retires Type 21s, it can install Harpoons from those ships onto any Perry's. All you then need is some air selfdefence augmentation e.g. FL3000Ns from China or RAM from the US. Might even stick the LY60 from the Type 21 onto the first few.

so the harpons can be transfered and will surely will be. however, i think that the prim focus if o use these in anti-piracy roles so PN might not be going for the AAW capabilities. these are quite old ships and inducting new systems for these wont be an option.
are the phalnax intact, this is to be seen once the ship is at port and can be can be partically seen.
also another thing is that can the Z-9 be incorprated with the battle systems on board these OHPs. or we might use drones for survellience if these are only being used in anti piracy roles.

 

[petervivian]

CNS Admiral Noman Bashir, COS Vice Admiral Shahid Iqbal and Captain Naveed Ashraf.

 

[Arsalan]

yet another blow:

i dont know what made them pay the 11 million dollors for the repairs of this scrap!

 

[Penguin]

yet another blow:

i dont know what made them pay the 11 million dollors for the repairs of this scrap!

Crap? As compared to what? Type 21's? F22P? Pffff.....

 

[Penguin]

PNS Alamgir

April 11, 2011 (Mayport, Florida or Cadiz, Spain?)

All sizes | PNS Alamgir (F260) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Docked at Shuwaikh port, Kuwait, Jul 2nd 2011.

PNS Alamgir received a mostly mechanical overhaul, which had to be conducted in the US as part of the deal. All four diesels engines were removed and overhauled, along with air conditioning units and refrigeration. Fuel oil tanks and voids were cleaned, inspected, repaired and painted.
All shafting, the controllable pitch propeller system as well as sea valves were replaced, overhauled or renovated, with almost every pump opened, inspected and overhauled as needed.
Ventilators and fans went through a similar process of inspection and overhaul, while Breakers, NR3 switchboard, windlass, and boat davit all got inspections and overhauls.
Completely new equipment includes a new navigation suite and bridge, the composite dome over the fully overhauled AN/SQS-56 sonar, and a VIP cabin.

Pakistan

Navy Dockyard, Karachi, July 19th 2011 (note plastic garden chairs on former Mk13 launcher base

Same, with PN ships RASADGAR & MADADGAR (STUS - small tanker utility ship)

http://world-navy.blogspot.com/2011/07/small-tanker-cum-utility-ships-stus.html

 

[regular]

Crap? As compared to what? Type 21's? F22P? Pffff.....

But F22P is new, will go for next 30to 40 years of service but this US frigate won't go more than 10 years cuz it already completed her lifeterm of 32 years with US so its almost Junk now.Can US give US new frigate for the same price of F-22P? if yes! then its a good deal but for Junks it can't be.......

 

[regular]

so herer we are, the ship is arriving and regardless of claim of "heavy upgardation and modification" all have proved to be nothing but a false claim.
here we have a boat, deprived of Mk-13 (the much appreciated asset that some people claimed to make this a better platform then the F-22p frigates), absolutley no anti air capability and 30 years old sturcture. Haa!

it was stated that this will be the most capable ship in PN fleet. i sincerely wish, for betterment of nation, this is not the case at this is actually nothing.
yes, its good to keep presence in anti paracy missions so that the F-22p can be spared to defence the pak seas!

Arsalan Aslam

Yes! we realli bought junk for a handsome amount of money...We could have got some new F22P with this much money that was at least new tech and last 35 years too....

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

But F22P is new, will go for next 30to 40 years of service but this US frigate won't go more than 10 years cuz it already completed her lifeterm of 32 years with US so its almost Junk now.Can US give US new frigate for the same price of F-22P? if yes! then its a good deal but for Junks it can't be.......

f22 is good and new
while you cant say ohp are crap we can use them for 15 t0 20 more years the only need is their upgradation

 

[S-A-B-E-R->]

guys this ship have non or limited weapons capability than this becoms more of a utility ship than y dont we turn it in to a sensor ship with soule job of detectind listening, looking foe enemy and guyding other more capable ships to then like an intelligence boat?

 

[regular]

f22 is good and new
while you cant say ohp are crap we can use them for 15 t0 20 more years the only need is their upgradation

it will need at least 50 to 100 million $$ for upgradation...So why to spend that much money on the old ship if we can buy a new F22P with that amount???......or we shold go for 054A frigates which will be new too....arent we stupid to waste our money on old junks???......

 

[regular]

guys this ship have non or limited weapons capability than this becoms more of a utility ship than y dont we turn it in to a sensor ship with soule job of detectind listening, looking foe enemy and guyding other more capable ships to then like an intelligence boat?

this kinda job could be done by any new ship like F22p....plus this old junk is not even reliable...if that was of any value then why US didn't keep it ....why they didn't giveus their new ship to us.....???......everybody need to use their brain here.....

 

[S-A-B-E-R->]

this kinda job could be done by any new ship like F22p....plus this old junk is not even reliable...if that was of any value then why US didn't keep it ....why they didn't giveus their new ship to us.....???......everybody need to use their brain here.....

i agree in its current form its junk but with its advanced sonar capability and a few mil$ 3D survallance radar it can becom a better signal ship.