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PM’s Adviser on Finance Dr Hafeez Shaikh - FBR has collected the HIGHEST amount of INCOME tax from KARACHI

420b is still 10% of Pakistan overall revenue. But expect altafist terrorists to ignore Islamabad 204b, about half of Karachi tax collection while 10-15 times less population.

Hint, its companies and HQ paying them who operate all over Pakistan. Islamabad GDP isnt anywhere near Karachi. And Karachi GDP isnt 50% of Pakistan, its 20%.

204b getting much high returns in service and all as compare to karachi. Plus karachi has more population because of people comes here all over Pakistan adn they don't pay taxes just go any colony and check urself how much crowd has been gathered.
 
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204b getting much high returns in service and all as compare to karachi. Plus karachi has more population because of people comes here all over Pakistan adn they don't pay taxes just go any colony and check urself how much crowd has been gathered.




Some facts, 60% are indirect tax. Even with in direct taxes majority comes from FBR with holding tax.

Basically only about 15% is payed directly in Pakistan by individuals and companies. Karachi have highest numbers of companies HQ and rich men in Pakistan so its not surprising. But still with Pindi/Islamabad Rs240b and Lahore rs200b combined companies/individals pay more income tax then Karachi Rs426b if this report is right.

And combined all of them pay about 900b income tax while overall tax collection is 4000b. Do your math.
 
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Yes, I will. You got my point. Tax is collected at a point, a address but the economic activity that was taxed is result of national and in some cases even international economic activity. Meaning there is no reason for those who share that address to swell their testicles. Their is nothing intrinsicly great about them. geo-political economy will be reason.

Again the port is not anything intrinsicly great about those living at that address. Karachi was a port even in the British era. In fact the Indus Basin naturally empties into the Arabian Sea. Karachi is a natural corollary of that GEOGRAPHIC FACT. Where was a country of 200 million people going to import and it's entire exports from? Mumbai? Kokatta? Bandar Abbas in Iran?

Karachi's geography simply guaranteed irrespective of aliens, jigh IQ Ashkenazi Jews are or even more enterprising people like @PaklovesTurkiye had migrated there. The port traffic it be noted is generated by 200 million Pakistani's. Somebody in Gilgit wants to export his apricots or somebody in Chitral wants to export Lapis Lazuli it's going to be at Karachi. And no thanks to Mr Palovesturkey. Unless he thinks was he not there it would have been exported from Kolkata. Thus all the economic activity generated as consequence of port which by the way is massive is down to GEOGRAPHY.

Retail markets of themselves do NOT generate wany wealth. As you rightly pointed out Islamabad generates so much tax contingent on national economic activity being through the HQs of companies being based there. But there is also secondary spin off or downstream economic activity contingent to the first. The first being the HQs, port, even airports etc which suck in national economic activity. In Islamabad you will see sector after of fancy houses, fancy car salesrooms, fancy restaurents, fancy foreign import stores or malls like Centaurus. All those sectors have people in very high income brackets because of the jobs they have at first. Meaning government offices, company HQs, international NGOs, embassies, international companies. All those people in high paying jobs as well as army of middled income people shop in those malls, bazaars, buy cars etc. This leads to SECONDARY economic activity. That is why Centaurus Mall is there. Pull all the company HQs out and move the capital to Gwadar and watch what will happen as the lifeforce is sucked out of Islamabad.

Karachi had geography on it's side. Long before 1947 it was a sterling city contingent on it's location. You are free to explore the thread Old Karachi. For instance Karachi Airport was one of most significant airports in British India. All imperial flights from the west landed at Karachi. The impressive British era buildings attest to how geography had destined this city to be entrepot of the entire Indus Basin including Afghanistan and Indian Punjab.

From 1947 onwards being made capital gave the city additional gravitional pull. In early1960s city recieved massive house building for migrant populations. My dad was there and saw that. In Balochistan, Thar Parker the poor kept living in thatched huts but being the capital it recieved massive investment.

When the capital was moved out many large companies continued to headquarter in Karachi. I was in Pakistan recently and was forced to go to Karachi because the bank my family had a account with had it's operational cell in KCH. Ditto PIA and many other national concerns. Whether they make profit or not but they do provide cushy employment to a army of lazy workers who as you wil expect live in Karachi and shop in those high tax paying districts you alluded to.

Finally I get called racist by some esteemed members here. The fact is the same members do not shy from singing songs from top of the Dolmen Tower about how great they are or how exceptional they are compared to all rest of Pakistan. My dad went to Karachi in late 1950s and he tells how Urdu speakers looked at up country people with contempt, be they Pakhtuns or Punjabi as uncouth and village bumpkins.

That air of superiority still carries given the countless threads on how this exceptional community gave to Pakistan. Just to be clear and I don't think I have every said this in unambigious terms. I am of Pakhtun ancestry from Hazara region although many of my family live in Islamabad, Lahore and I even have cousin in Karachi police who I stayed with for few hours before I left for Islamabad.

I tried to ignore this but this forum allowed rampant racism against my people. Using the clever 'Afghan' card to thrash us. Nobody did anything. Most of this came from the Urdu speaking community because of the contested nature of Karachi.

When I began to hit back I was called a "racist" in order to muzzle me. This worked because of the skewed nature of PDF members where people from Karachi have disproportionate representation. For example FATA gas almost as many people as Urdu speakers in Karachi but it has zero presence [almost] on this board. This alludews to the economic advantage enjoyed by Karachiwallahs yet they cry the loudest.

Be it noted over time this skewed presentation which even the media sings to because most of it even is Karaci centri and Urdu speaker dominated will change as rest of Pakistan catches up. I look forward to the day every group in Pakistan get's a shout equal to it's population profie. Be noted that @PaklovesTurkiye community is only about 6%. It needs to act like 6% and not 66%.

Finally as regards their prowess in everything can be seen in India. Where they number in nearly 150 million. The lucky bunch who escaped to Pakistan instead of appreciating the break and opportunities they got instead choose to complain that theyt have been done in b y Pakistan. We only have to listen to their god Altaf who was voted again ang again into power holding federal government and Sind at times.

Contrast that with the favourite target of this community like PTM and Dawar or Achakzai who command a tiny political presence leave and will NEVER hold any position in the government. Yet this community has the gumption to question my peoples patriotism. Our villages including my own contribute young boys for generations to the Pakistan Army who for paltry few thousand rupees sit on the LOC and die while people like @PaklovesTurkiye bloat their amply tummies munching biriani.

Remind this @PaklovesTurkiye when his people ran away from the Hindu hordes in India to take refuge amongst the Sindhi who today they despise my people from the tribal areas went to fight the Hindu in Kashmir and thanks to their sacrifice Pakisatan managed to gain tract of strategic land you call AZAD kashmir today which holds all trhe water resources of Pakistan.

Now I expect @PaklovesTurkiye to raise a ruckus and bring his lynch mob.

Ask those Illiterate tribals to pay some fukin tax.

Barking is easy.

Now, Do some stupid tribal dance and run away from here.

We are 6% yet due to our education we still get to the top. You and your community need to drop inferiority complex. You lost your think tank title just because of this.

Ask your tribals to stop treating women like dirt and be respectful to them

Send tribals here. We will teach them MANNERS. We'll find out who is who then.

Even Bengalis in Karachi threw tribals away when illiterate tribals came along with Ayub Khan's son to attack Fatima Jinnah supporters.
 
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Some facts, 60% are indirect tax. Even with in direct taxes majority comes from FBR with holding tax.

Basically only about 15% is payed directly in Pakistan by individuals and companies. Karachi have highest numbers of companies HQ and rich men in Pakistan so its not surprising. But still with Pindi/Islamabad Rs240b and Lahore rs200b combined companies/individals pay more income tax then Karachi Rs426b if this report is right.

And combined all of them pay about 900b income tax while overall tax collection is 4000b. Do your math.

We are talking about markets...Not COMPANIES

A traditional local MARKET of Karachi pays more TAX than ENTIRE LAHORE as claimed by Haroon Rasheed reading newly released report

 
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similar things were used to be said about bangladesh now they r much better than pakistan.
lol may Bangladesh flourish..
but two are different economies ....Its like saying India is doing better than Russia.And i think you are confusing this with the market access issue. Tax collection was never an issue with bengalies back then..

204b getting much high returns in service and all as compare to karachi. Plus karachi has more population because of people comes here all over Pakistan and they don't pay taxes just go any colony and check urself how much crowd has been gathered.
toh bhai jan yah kon bolta hai kai i.Karachi feeds the whole country...ya karachi share in revenue 60 or 70%...at least such myths should now be put to rest..
 
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lol may Bangladesh flourish..
but two are different economies ....Its like saying India is doing better than Russia.And i think you are confusing this with the market access issue. Tax collection was never an issue with bengalies back then..


toh bhai jan yah kon bolta hai kai i.Karachi feeds the whole country...ya karachi share in revenue 60 or 70%...at least such myths should now be put to rest..
Oh acha masla 60 ya 70% ka hai ok even if 10% ziyada ho tab bhi claim palnay ka same rahayga ager taqleef hai tou bhai ghairat dilao dosro ko takay wo beat kardei karachi ko aur claim ap lai lo palnay ka issue kia hai
 
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lol may Bangladesh flourish..
but two are different economies ....Its like saying India is doing better than Russia.And i think you are confusing this with the market access issue. Tax collection was never an issue with bengalies back then..


toh bhai jan yah kon bolta hai kai i.Karachi feeds the whole country...ya karachi share in revenue 60 or 70%...at least such myths should now be put to rest..
U should read the complete post before jumping in middle of something. Reference of bangladesh wasn't with respect to economy
 
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Ask those Illiterate tribals to pay some fukin tax.

Barking is easy.

Now, Do some stupid tribal dance and run away from here.

We are 6% yet due to our education we still get to the top. You and your community need to drop inferiority complex. You lost your think tank title just because of this.

Ask your tribals to stop treating women like dirt and be respectful to them

Send tribals here. We will teach them MANNERS. We'll find out who is who then.

Even Bengalis in Karachi threw tribals away when illiterate tribals came along with Ayub Khan's son to attack Fatima Jinnah supporters.
Ignore the drunk orangutan, the rest of non-Karachitites feel your pain, and stand with you shoulder to shoulder.

Slowlly, but surely Karachi will be fixed IA.
 
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