PM talks about state owned land as dead capital - i propose solution

[ranawat]

Chekhen nikal rahi ha

Kanto ka taz .

 

[El Sidd]

Kanto ka taz .

Is it Taj Mahal or taz Mahal?

 

[313ghazi]

WTF..do you know anything
About real estate

Even an idiot knows that rela estate is 10-20% if your economy (some cases more like UAE)..land is not real state..its desd capital ..developed land is...

This is cimmon sense and even a 7 years child knows this ..how old are you?

Why will you idiots not look beyond your own nose. This is an out of the box solution. You cannot use standard capitalist bullshit to build a better society. Capitalism only generates wealth for a few at the cost of the many. Dubai is a perfect example of what to avoid. Steel and glass representing value and wealth, instead of real work resulting in goods and services that can be exchanged.

Post WW2 Britain was a shell of an Empire and was broke. It built itself back up and its economic strength went side by side with the rise of social housing. Millions of homes were built by the state and rented at cheap rates to the population. This freed up the population to spend on other things and it grew the economy. The economic crisis of 2008 happened because household debt had spiralled out of control. The biggest part of that debt was mortgage repayments. The "boom" of the housing market busted everything else.

If things go right for us, we're about to go through a period of economic growth. We have a very young population and already have a housing shortage. Money in thier pockets will lead to a higher demand for housing which will lead to more slums and higher house prices. if we build social housing and affordable homes, we avoid that scenario and leave more income in the hands of the population which will be spent on other products and services growing other sectors of the market other than the bank accounts of landlords and property speculators.

As for state owned farms, they've been used across the world with success.

 

[El Sidd]

Capitalism

Do you consider Capitalism to be Haram?

 

[Mentee]

Bro forget the residence and shod the focus on main issues. Sell the steel mill I am not against it. The problem is he is doing too much micro he has to take macro steps.

He should sell the steel mill make a new one and sell that as well. We need bigger jumps.

Second that! But leasing out G. O. R and official residences of DCOs commissioners rpos and dpos isn't micro managing. That land is worth hundreds of billions of rupees without even taking into account the Railway's property

Chekhen nikal rahi ha

Ayaaz amir predicted about real change in one of his recent interviews.

" the day when screams start coming out of the G. O. R would be the day change is taking place"

@BHarwana @Pluralist

 

[I.R.A]

Do you consider Capitalism to be Haram?

Karun / Qaroon.

 

[El Sidd]

Karun / Qaroon.

That was uncontrolled capitalism

 

[Mrc]

Thos land shud be used to generate smart multistory low cost housing for the poor

 

[I.R.A]

That was uncontrolled capitalism

Capitalism can never be controlled it's a disease, ju al baqar, it's a competition, a race

and "Competition in [worldly] increase diverts you, Until you visit the graveyards".

 

[El Sidd]

Capitalism can never be controlled it's a disease, ju al baqar, it's a competition, a race

and "Competition in [worldly] increase diverts you, Until you visit the graveyards".

I See it otherwise. Capitalism can be controlled.

 

[313ghazi]

Do you consider Capitalism to be Haram?

I don't know enough about capitalism, or about the deen to be making fatwas like that. I am not qualified to say if capitalism is haram or not.

I live in a capitalist country, we live generally in a capitalist world and i see the benefits and the drawbacks every day.

 

[I.R.A]

I See it otherwise. Capitalism can be controlled.

For short term may be ........... but in the longer run even the man o salwah lost its appeal. Humans are hasty, impatient, greedy, miser, selfish. And capitalism is the gateway to all that.

 

[313ghazi]

I look at this thread and I see lots of good ideas. People talking about leasing the land, or setting up industrial units on it. All these ideas are as valid or maybe even better than mine.

IK did not explicitly state anywhere he wants to sell the land, I'll amend my title. I do hope that his tweet which eluded to the idea of releasing capital, did not mean by selling land.

 

[Khatri_pune]

Agreed. I think PIA, Pak Steel and other loss making concerns need to be dumped. The problem is bloody politics. If this was K-Pk it would done. Dusted. But because the government is a coalition and a weak one at that if holy cows like PIA or PS are touched MQM will throw a tempter tantrum. What people don;t understand is Pakistan is running a welfare state but unlike Europe it is other way around. Concerns like PIA and PS are ways to dole out money to the middle class in Karachi. PM Imran Khan is asking for money from ex-pats but at the very time PIA is losing $ billions. If PIA, PS and electricty companies losses were agregated the sum would cover Bhasha Dam easy.

But a bit like Atif Mian and the Ahmedi situation these are not just hot potatos but nuke potatos. Touch them and you get dose of deadly radiation. It's like political suicide. They carry this sign on them.

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i sincerely hope that if its realy a coalition government...... it should not turn out like UPA2 in India.

 

[Max]

Agreed. I think PIA, Pak Steel and other loss making concerns need to be dumped. The problem is bloody politics. If this was K-Pk it would done. Dusted. But because the government is a coalition and a weak one at that if holy cows like PIA or PS are touched MQM will throw a tempter tantrum. What people don;t understand is Pakistan is running a welfare state but unlike Europe it is other way around. Concerns like PIA and PS are ways to dole out money to the middle class in Karachi. PM Imran Khan is asking for money from ex-pats but at the very time PIA is losing $ billions. If PIA, PS and electricty companies losses were agregated the sum would cover Bhasha Dam easy.

But a bit like Atif Mian and the Ahmedi situation these are not just hot potatos but nuke potatos. Touch them and you get dose of deadly radiation. It's like political suicide. They carry this sign on them.

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Well PIA and PSM labour bodies are Pee Pee Pee affiliates. MQM is more involved in KMC, KDA, KPT, Water board etc..