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The deaths of pakistani civilians and the death of pakistani soldiers at the hands of terrorists is pakistani public and pakistani military's own fault---.
That is what happens when you don't kill the enemy in time---.
our foreign policy
Pakistan is NOT the king maker ..What you will get to side with Iran ? You are taking about India with whom Iran has better relation then Pakistan ..Sir our delayed response or our failure to act in time, in our own country is no excuse for others to totally ignore us at an International summit.
Saudis are not getting it. They are making aged old blunder of treating us like slaves and minions, which is not helpful for their cause (not our's). We fought our cause though late after many losses and destruction but we fought it and we fought it alone, we didn't hire another country's ex COAS to come and help take the command, we didn't ask for other countries' soldiers to come help and fight our terrorists / insurgents ........... they should understand and respect this that in today's times Pakistan is the king maker ............ it won't cost us much to side with Iran and then we will see where these Saudis stand ......... what would Saudis do, send Pakistanis back home? They already are sending them back home ............... Side with india .......... they have already sided with india ........... they consider india as victim of terror ......... which translates into Pakistan as terrorist.
At least Rauf Klasra has a good analysis.
It was Arab-Islamic-American Summit
Leadership of how many Muslim countries were present in there?
Who else made speech in there beside Trump( was representing America ) and Host Saudia king who was representing all Muslim countries in there
watch video in here and no Pakistan was not completely ignored and stop creating issue out of nothing by listening non sense of IK
https://www.geo.tv/latest/142792-pakistan-deeply-committed-to-muslim-worlds-unity-pm
I don't care about Iranian even though I personally don't care about saudia either but Pakistan has made choice to pick one side between these two by making ex Pakistani army chief as chief of Islamic military alliances and by the way Iranian did not give us any special favours so why we should bother about them when they are on one side and rest of the Muslim countries are on other side and Iran was invited to join this alliances but they did not
No time to read your bullshit in capital letters and stop quote me you troll unless you have something sensible to add until then keep crying like Imran khan and his blind followers who consider him pir and follow him like mureeddon't be so blind to support your favorite political party that you ignored every thing. we are not any era gera nathu mela nation we are the only nuclear power of the Muslim world we are the defenders of Makkah and Madena and we even defend KSA as per our agreement with them. Even their their alliance army leader is also our chief.
This is how you treat us, was this treatment was okey??? they praised our arch enemy and portrait them as innocent was that okey???
YOU IDIOTS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE FIGHT BETWEEN KSA AND IRAN IS THEIR ANCIENT FIGHT OF PERSIAN VS ARABS AND WE ARE NEITHER ARAB NOR PERSIAN SO WHY WE MAKE OUR HANDS DIRTY FOR THEM AND THAT MUSLIM NATO IS JUST ARAB FORCE WITH JUST TURKEY AND PAKISTAN ALONG WITH 1 OR 2 MORE NON ARAB COUNTRIES IN IT. IF IT WAS MUSLIM FORCE THEN THEIR WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES IN IT. TURKEY AND PAKISTAN ARE ONLY THEIR BECAUSE OF THEIR MILITARY MIGHT .
IF YOU GIVE REASON OF YEMEN AND SYRIA THEN JUST TELL ME ONE THING.
AS PER THEIR LOGIC IN SYRIA THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST GOVERNMENT ARE INNOCENTS AND DOING RIGHT THING BY FIGHTING AGAINST GOVERNMENT TO GET THEIR RIGHTS.
AND WHEN WE CAME IN YEMEN IF SOME LOCAL TRIBES STANDING UP AGAINST THEIR GOVERNMENT TO FIGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS THEN THEY ARE WRONG THEY SHOULD OBEY GOVERNMENT AND KILLING THOSE WHO ARE DEMANDING THEIR RIGHTS GET CERTIFIED
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY IN SYRIA GOVERNMENT IS WRONG AND THOSE DEMANDING RIGHT ARE GOOD BUT IN YEMEN GOVERNMENT IS RIGHT AND THOSE WHO ARE DEMANDING RIGHTS ARE WRONG
Some good points in there but i think all this crying of imran is over nothing..this is a good chance to revisit our foreign policy! make it independent keeping in view our own interests.
Why was Nawaz Sharif not allowed: My two cents...
Nothing is lost till now.
- We opted to remain neutral in Iran-arab conflict
- Saudi led alliance asked for military support against Hothi rebels, we refused
- Saudi wants to buy arms from USA, we are considered as a competitor (we want to sell our JF 17s)
- We are moving towards China and Russia
- CPEC is a matter of concern for pro USA block
- We don't have foreign minister which is leading to a disastrous foreign policy - centered around personal relationships rather than institutionalized ones
- Our F.O didn't know the framework of the summit and just thought that we will be allowed to speak
- Economy is mightier than that of arms. We have feeble economy as we rely on remittances from gulf states to run the country and they know it
- The Indian lobby is successful in inculcating the world that we are epicenter of global terrorism and we have remained a failure in professing and propagating out point of view
- Pakistan doesn't have English news channels and world is unaware of Pakistan's point of view
- It is high time for us to realize that some dreams like being one from river Nile till Kashghar is a far cry
- It was Moment of truth for Pakistan. If there is little sense prevailing in our foreign office, they should go for a paradigm shift in Foreign Policy and start working on institutionalized relationship between countries rather than personal ones of leaders
- Not a single leader from P5 or any other influential country from EU, Australia, Far East, Japan or South America has visited Pakistan in last decade. FO must work on it on war footings
where is mian ji?
If he does not control the foreign policy then why does he not resign?He makes it sound like Nawaz Sharif controls foreign policy. Is he clueless or afraid to question the real authority that controls foreign policy?
Pakistan is NOT the king maker ..What you will get to side with Iran ? You are taking about India with whom Iran has better relation then Pakistan ..
We will be islolated in whole world by doing this ..isolation with West and isolation with all Islamic countries too ..Iran can stand on its own cause of oil and it has own issues with US and others..
You are saying what will be the cost of saying bye to KSA..
Please take a list from where you are getting money ..10 billion dollar in remittance from GCC annually and check the foreign reserves ..dollar will shoot like rocket even if half is cut ..
Second All the loans from IMF and others ..Still we have to beg us for equipments and other things ..US and west is the biggest economic partner of Pakistan ..We can't move unless and until we are dependent on them..
Find out the reason why we have to beg some one for just one billion dollar some years back
If he does not control the foreign policy then why does he not resign?
This is no excuse. He did not even appoint a foreign minister so far.