PM Modi permits surplus power sale to Pakistan!

[Laozi]

Why Pakistan want to be at the mercy of India? if next day India decide to shut down the power grid...Pakistan will be in trouble, China can help Pakistan to achieve self sufficient in this domain. Pakistan willing to buy our electricity because we don't have any geo-political issue, in contrary we help each other.

You have stated that Pakistan will be self sufficient in this domain.

Then you write that Pakistan willing to buy Your electricity.

Can you elaborate whether you are helping Pakistan to become self sufficient or making them dependent on your supplies.

Regards

 

[salarsikander]

RSS GOONS will burn down the power station then

 

[Laozi]

There are many more proposals India has refused.

Countries do refuse many proposals which are against their national interests.

But this particular proposal is in fact in favour of Pakistani Public in general and can be perceived by many Indians as a wrong gesture by Modi which might help Pakistan.

I only stated the probable reasons for Pakistani refusal because "anger blinds a person" and one can take rational decisions if one is full of hatred.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

But this particular proposal is in fact in favour of Pakistani Public in general and can be perceived by many Indians as a wrong gesture by Modi which might help Pakistan.

So is IPP, the Turkmenistan Pipeline, Zara, Bullet, among many others.

Anger is on both sides, as many members have pointed out.

Which is sad to see as the $Billions spent on weapons could be spent more beneficially on development and inter-economic dependencies.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

two parts to your query @Levina
Power Purchase Agreement usually require buyer (The Grid) to continuously buy a certain minimum Units from generating utility. Now in last 2 years after coal mess was sorted out, Thermal power plants are running at record capacities.
Now power unlike other commodities, cannot be stored and hence when demand is low, plants are forced to reduce generation.
PPA however carry a penalty clause on customer, which if unable to buy agreed value of power, will pay a surcharge leading to higher bills. This is what they are talking about and trying to sell to Pakistan.
Second, I'm not certain if Pakistan has agreed to purchase power but they can.
Few years back there was a serious idea of creating a SAARC regional power trading exchange as this would have massively benefitted Bhutan and Nepal, which have low demand but huge Hydro potential. Unfortunately things in our part of the world move in a way @scorpionx has described.
Similar thing happened about 6 years back when Pakistan wanted to buy Diesel Locomotives from India but nothing materialized.

As Indian states start producing surplus power - one after another, it is time to move from fuel guzzlers to Electricity - starting with fully Electrified Railways and migrating to Electric Vehicles.

China has been very smartly moving in this direction rapidly. Time for us to follow the suit.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

You have stated that Pakistan will be self sufficient in this domain.

Then you write that Pakistan willing to buy Your electricity.

Can you elaborate whether you are helping Pakistan to become self sufficient or making them dependent on your supplies.

Regards

We're cooperate with Pakistan over Nuclear reactor, Dam, and coal power plant to make Pakistan energy sufficient, if they need more China can sell the surplus, what I said is that Pakistan is willing to buy electricity than buy from India due to political reason, China has no string attached to our all weather friend.

 

[SorryNotSorry]

We're cooperate with Pakistan over Nuclear reactor, Dam, and coal power plant to make Pakistan energy sufficient, if they need more China can sell the surplus, what I said is that Pakistan is willing to buy electricity than buy from India due to political reason, China has no string attached to our all weather friend.

Huge Transmission Losses, and sheer distance- Basic physics will probably not allow you to help your " all weather friend " -selling them surplus power at a much higher cost. Selling Coal power plants to Pakistan and making Pakistan dependent on coal in the future- is also a horrible idea.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Huge Transmission Losses- Basic physics will probably not allow you to help your " all weather friend " -selling them surplus power. Selling Coal power plants to Pakistan and making Pakistan dependent on coal in the future- is also a horrible idea.

We have a huge transmission lines in Tibet to tap the new dam build in Brahmaputra, Tibet is future renewable energy for China and interconnected to Xinjiang so it's not hard to bring a line to Pakistan. And coal be bought everywhere at least they're not depend on India electricity.

 

[SorryNotSorry]

We have a huge transmission lines in Tibet to tap the new dam build in Brahmaputra, Tibet is future renewable energy for China and interconnected to Xinjiang so it's not hard to bring a line to Pakistan. And coal be bought everywhere at least they're not depend on India electricity.

This video doesn't prove anything. Read up about this. Power lines through the himalayas, taking a long indirect route- will never make for cheap power, and have a lot of loss due to distance and lack of the right set up due to the terrain. Let alone how much of Tibet is uninhabited- the cost of running new lines would not be viable even for the friendships as sweet as honey.
Coal will most likely have sanctions in the future. As China moves away from coal- it selling hand-me-downs to Pakistan over the coming decades might cause future problems for Pakistan. Nuclear energy is the way to go- but in the mean time- surplus from India is a good idea.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

This video doesn't prove anything. Read up about this. Power lines through the himalayas, taking a long indirect route- will never make for cheap power, and have a lot of loss due to distance and lack of the right set up due to the terrain. Let alone how much of Tibet is uninhabited- the cost of running new lines would not be viable even for the friendships as sweet as honey.
Coal will most likely have sanctions in the future. As China moves away from coal- it selling hand-me-downs to Pakistan over the coming decades might cause future problems for Pakistan. Nuclear energy is the way to go- but in the mean time- surplus from India is a good idea.

The video is to show that we already laid the foundation of Power grid in Tibet to serve towns and villages all the way to Rutog is close to Pakistan, so it's not a big deal to extend the line to Pakistan. China can certainly compete with India for energy export and help our sweet as honey friend

India itself is planning to build nearly 300 coal power plants and you lecture us about the moral of using coal plant, India has serious pollution and with these plants India surely will be suffocated in the future. Sure Pakistan is free to choose their customer and vendors.

https://eos.org/scientific-press/indias-coal-plant-plans-conflict-with-climate-commitments

 

[SorryNotSorry]

The video is to show that we already laid the foundation of Power grid in Tibet to serve towns and villages all the way to Rutog is close to Pakistan, so it's not a big deal to extend the line to Pakistan. China can certainly compete with India for energy export and help our sweet as honey friend

India itself is planning to build nearly 300 coal power plants and you lecture us about the moral of using coal plant, India has serious pollution and with these plants India surely will be suffocated in the future. Sure Pakistan is free to choose their customer and vendors.

https://eos.org/scientific-press/indias-coal-plant-plans-conflict-with-climate-commitments

Key difference is Indias coal power plants are not fueled by loans from sweet friends. Coal power is a problem with India- you pointing a finger at India doesn't take away from the fact that we were discussing. Nice strawman.
And as for you supplying surplus to Pakistan- read a book or two to know about how this works instead of spamming out childish arguments. Dont play yourself boy. China supplying surplus to Pakistan is completely non viable.