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PM Kakar says Afghan Taliban "illegitimate," ; Pakistan may directly target TTP & its 'supporters' on Afghan soil - SAI

More and more I am hearing talks of this so called 50KM buffer zone along Afghanistan/Pakistan border...
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Note this is just mothballed ideas being floated by the same old brains. Notice their "wet dreams" of a KHORASAN and a HERAT FREE STATE... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Legendary map but I don't get why they would put Herat as a free state
 
Best case scenario for a Youthiya and his master IK indeed.

Same tall claims were made through out the 60s.

Look at the trends from GB to Balochistan to Kashmir to KPK.

The country is breaking apart.

Can't expect some two bit patwari living on a dole in Englaaand to understand this.
 
Noticed the Indian stink bombs and Punjabi supremacists sitting in England on PDF are both salivating at the thought of Pakistan fighting TTA. I can guarantee it that the TTA will destroy the Pakistani army and end Pakistan as a nation state. These cowards/idiots do not understand what getting into a war entail as they have always turn tail in their history including 1947 and 1965.

Trust me as someone who has vast knowledge of the geo-strategic realities - I guarantee Iran, Indian rapists, the US will likely arm the Taliban to ensure this war goes on forever as its a win win situation.

Their motivations is the following:

Iran - defang a coward US backed nuke armed regime to protect its south eastern flank

India - won’t insult anyone’s intelligent but they will pull a Turkey on Syria after the coward army runs away (which will occur as GHQ never gave af about KPK or B-Stan so running away from there should be expected)

US- pull a mini Ukraine - Russia to defang a nuke state to ensure toothless nation. Even more compliance nation that Pakistan is today.

Expect TTA to use hit and run tactics and likely destroy the Air Forces strategic assets like AWACS’s and modern fighter jets.
 
Pakistan regrettably lacks a policy.

They are unsure about what to do or what not to do.

From 1979, they have been arming the Taliban without knowing the Taliban rejects present-day Pakistani borders?

When they began to say good Taliban and bad Taliban, supporting them behind closed doors against the USA after 9/11?

When the US left Afghanistan, did not you celebrate?

Why are Pakistan's goverment wasting our time saying TAliban is illegitimate and bad after so many years?
 
Noticed the Indian stink bombs and Punjabi supremacists sitting in England on PDF are both salivating at the thought of Pakistan fighting TTA. I can guarantee it that the TTA will destroy the Pakistani army and end Pakistan as a nation state. These cowards/idiots do not understand what getting into a war entail as they have always turn tail in their history including 1947 and 1965.

Trust me as someone who has vast knowledge of the geo-strategic realities - I guarantee Iran, Indian rapists, the US will likely arm the Taliban to ensure this war goes on forever as its a win win situation.

Their motivations is the following:

Iran - defang a coward US backed nuke armed regime to protect its south eastern flank

India - won’t insult anyone’s intelligent but they will pull a Turkey on Syria after the coward army runs away (which will occur as GHQ never gave af about KPK or B-Stan so running away from there should be expected)

US- pull a mini Ukraine - Russia to defang a nuke state to ensure toothless nation. Even more compliance nation that Pakistan is today.

Expect TTA to use hit and run tactics and likely destroy the Air Forces strategic assets like AWACS’s and modern fighter jets.
You are currently fighting TTA. This has passed point of no return. What scenario do you see that its getting walked back?

The more time you waste the harder this will be on you.
 
Wow never in my life I thought a day will come when Pashtoon supporters of Afghans and Indians will suck each other off lol of course I doubt that Pakistan will take such a hard stance, as much as I want them to take against the Afghans, but for some Pashtoons and Yes I say Pashtoons, because Punjabi/Sindhi/Baloch/Urdu Speaking/Bihari/Bengali/Kashmiri we don't give a f about Afghans, they have a country so run it or burn it. But Afghan Taliban took help from Pakistan and I bet they lied to ISI to help them and in return they will take down TTP and like their title suggest these Namak Haram unleash the TTP on Pakistan, without controlling Pashtoon's Pakistan will keep burning, cause this one ethnic group can/will be the downfall of Pakistan, Mark my words.

Pakistan regrettably lacks a policy.

They are unsure about what to do or what not to do.

From 1979, they have been arming the Taliban without knowing the Taliban rejects present-day Pakistani borders?

When they began to say good Taliban and bad Taliban, supporting them behind closed doors against the USA after 9/11?

When the US left Afghanistan, did not you celebrate?

Why are Pakistan's goverment wasting our time saying TAliban is illegitimate and bad after so many years?
Because you Pajeets are too dumb to understand that on a Global scale there are no permanent friends or enemies, USA since they step foot in Afghanistan has no intention to fight WOT, their main focus was destabilize Pakistan and spy on China/Iran and other Central Asian countries. Pakistan's understood this well enough that's why they played the double game of helping both America and Taliban, same game played by America by supporting TTP.

Now Pakistan has saw deaths and destruction at the hands of TTP and under US support so it was completely understandable to keep Taliban alive so Americans are kept busy, but Americans before leaving make sure to leave enough weapons inside Afghanistan and they know that eventually Pakistan and AT will start fighting due to the unhinged nature of Afghanistan and its people.

So here we are, America defeated and left Afghanistan, before they leave they make sure to leave enough weapons and ammo so the region keep burning for decades, classic Imperial tactic, and Pakistan as always making dumb decisions internally but sending Afghans back or Attacking TTP inside Afghanistan at the expense of clashes with Afghan Taliban, so be it.. Only thing we have to see is where the Pakistani Pashtoon will stand, side with Afghanistan or Pakistan...
 
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Pak can make life a hell for the Taliban. They'll get into their senses rather sooner than later....

Afganistan is a 100% narcotic country......
 
Pak can make life a hell for the Taliban. They'll get into their senses rather sooner than later....

Afganistan is a 100% narcotic country......

Bro, That's putting a blame on someone else for our own blunders.

We were showering all praises for the "Afghan Mujhahideen" during 80's and 90's.

They were our frontline soldiers.

They were our strategic depth

We had ZERO terrorism from Afghan side throughout the 80's and 90's.

We need to ask ourselves what really happened post 9/11 that we lost 80,000 people

Answer is quite simple, We backstabbed them and our own tribal population.

Our military sold our citiizens for 5000 USD to USA even lots of innocents including.

USA used our airspace and our airbases and bombed our people. Our military was supposed to protect them and not let them be hunted and killed. People in tribal areas and KP lost their loved ones in "collateral damage". The hatred increased everyday. There was one sane person, who had a vision to understand the blowback and tried time and again to warn the low IQ military establishment that someone's else war will be costly for us. He warned that don't play on someone's else national interests. Be partner in peace and don't be partner in war. But nobody listened. This terrorism wasn't created out of vaccuum. We provided all the reasons for it to be created. The previous Afghan govt / NDS & RAW nexus funded and planned biggest attacks on Pakistan. Good thing happened when that pro-indian govt was thrown out by Taliban. We are again committing same mistake by alienating Afghan Taliban instead trying to make things right. We know how to hurt ourselves. We have zero strategic vision, we are on suicidal path. Remember Afghan Taliban are hardcore, vicious fighters who unlike our military leaders hate luxurious life but loves military action. They are already getting bored sitting idle, doing nothing. Don't give them every reason to join hands with TTP and make a strategic depth inside Pakistan rather opposite. We have no money, and we certainly cannot afford the longest border to become warzone. We barely have capability to look at one border that's at east where monster size enemy sits and waiting patiently to play its next move.

We should never think to make life hell for Afghanistan. That's a mindset for disaster. The only way towards peace is that we should facilitate development of Afghanistan. Peace / stability in Afghanistan means, all those afghans will move back to their country themselves, you will not need to expel them. Their should be trade, and good relations. Only trust and good relations can being peace and prosperity to Pakistan and Afghanistan. You can never live a peaceful life by making life hell for Afghanistan. A happy neighborhood is a recipe for progress. Unstable neighborhood will ALWAYS be troubling for you.

Whenever there is misery in Afghanistan, the Afghans will ALWAYS inflitrate in Pakistan. No matter of technology, and no amount of fundings can seal Pak-afghan border. It is an impossible task. Your only bet is have great relations with Afghan Taliban. Make them an asset rather than an enemy.

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@Goritoes

Just read your comment. This message above is response to yours as well. How easy it is to say that ALL pashtuns are evil, Do you really have idea what you are saying ? Pashtuns are not some small minority. If you make ALL Pashtuns your enemy, there would be no Pakistan left. Maligning Pashtuns is like an attack on Pakistan's survival. I suggest becareful in propping such ideas as you are not doing any service to Pakistan but doing otherwise. Reason we have stood so far is Pashtuns have sided with us. I have seen more patriot Pashtuns then anybody from any other ethnicity. Why on earth Afghan mujahideen were our beloved people in 80s and 90s. And why on earth we had zero terrorism before 9/11. Why we had no securiy issue at all. Why we never even posted military at our western border before 9/11? What changed all that? You need to answer that and you will find that it was us the culprit not them.

Secondly, before blaming anyone from our tribal areas, you need to analyze that when a US drone lifts up from Pakistani airbase, do an airstrike at a funeral procession in North waziristan agency and kills 100s of people. What do you think the response will be ? Put yourself in their position and imagine your loved ones being killed by a drone that is being facilitated by your own military. If it'd be me, I will make my life's mission to hurt that military regime that is partnering with a foreign power and butchering our people. You used these people and you then discarded them and now conveniently putting all blame on them.
 
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Very accurate number? How was it derived?

All people with even a little inclination towards being realistic had cautioned against this love for Talibans.

What was ISI doing? On what basis were they assisting them?

The caretaker PM wouldn’t have given this statement without the approval from the Establishment. Same establishment, that had aided Taliban not too long back.

Very poor strategic thinking.

Which part was poor strategic thinking?

Pakistan helping Taliban to defeat USA was the right thing to do, otherwise they would end up with permanent US presence and Indian presence under US patronage.

The only poor thinking on the part of Pakistanis was they thought the Taliban will be friendly and Afghanistan would be an ally. This was the only error in their thinking.
 

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