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That's true Biden is actually the most unpopular President in history. Most Americans despise him...



I rather eat grass than be a slave...
Eating grass has nothing to be a slave

Pakistanis love for slavery has nothing to do with economic ramificatioms infacts the reason why our economy is bad is precisely due to this reason
Since when do slaves do better economically

Do you eat grass in Canada? Talk is cheap.

Social-economic development (ROTI - KAPRA - MAKAAN) is fundamental RIGHT of all people. People select a leader to provide relief and opportunities to them for their livelihood on average. PTI-led GOP launched EHSAAS to address this concern and I pointed out how it could be funded. People also select a leader to address societal problems like corruption and improve Law & Order situation but PTI-led GOP did not live up to expectations in this matter.

Nobody here is advocating slavery to any country but sound Foreign Policy is necessary. Leaders come and go but the state has to co-exist with other states and strive for bilateral relations with them to grow and prosper.

No country should interfere in political affairs of Pakistan but what to do about our own bad apples? Some Pakistani politicians are immoral enough to invite or tap Foreign intervention when it suits them for political gains. Pakistani political situation is a mess. Public is confused and split on political lines as well.

I am pointing out hardcore facts - like them or not.
Most pakistanis are eating grass because they refuse to choose independent foreign polciy and like the fact that the country is bombed(like it was till 2018) and be devoid of any development

I am simply stating facts..we elected two govt who destroyed the economy via destroying export industry even without external stressors like covid/oil prices

And are likely to do it again
 
If the original order is deemed contrary to Law, all subsequent orders will be invalidated. However mass resignation of PTI members could propel the assmbly towards reelections.
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Oh totally agree on that part.

But they are invalid due to what happened previously, but were not illegal in themselves if seen in isolation.
 
I don't expect much from the SC either because as I have said umpteen times before, the judicial system is clearly broken in this country. Non-existent. Why is it even taken up by the courts if the speaker cannot be challenged? Isn't that unconstitutional in itself? Now the relevant news channels and their social media accounts have started spreading the news that the establishment didn't deem the letter as a threat to Imran Khan in the meeting.

The character assassination campaign is already started as was predicted by IK. Aleem khan has been unleashed as a first step. He is talking about IK, his wife and her friend openly now.
 
They don't get away with it, you should be honest in your answers.
If anything become public, noone last the day here in the UK. You know a Minister got done on speeding and jailed (Jonathan) for providing the details of his wife when in fact at the time he was driving the car not his wife.

People do not get spared even on a driving offence, if they lie or do any fraud. You and I know both know it. Lord Archer got done for changing a sentence in his diary to win in the court. He got done for the perjury at the time he was the Chairman of Conservative Party.

After that no TV station has ever aired any interview with Archer. Criminals are not given air time in the society.
Now look at Maryam, a convicted criminal, out on bail and she runs around like she is the Queen of Pakistan, while Pakistani journalists act like his paid stooges, nobody raises the questions, how come she is doing politics while out of the jail on bail!!

If you persist, I will conclude that while in the UK , you are keeping same morals hold by most in Pakistan.


I am sure tomorrow he will give rolling that while Deputy had no authority , but a panel member , a corrupt thug Ayaz Saddiq did, so the vote taken by him is legal and binding and NCM is passed by the bandits is binding.
Now don't get cranky-"If you persist, I will conclude that while in the UK , you are keeping same morals hold by most in Pakistan."
 
So this proves that US is out for our PM's blood and want him out, if not they will use pressure tactics mostly economic in nature

We need to make a stand as a people - but these pressure tactics will make him deeply unpopular- I can think the use of IMF, FATF at the top of my head
are we up for this challenge?

Pakistan isn't under sanctions so economic mess is our own. Who ever comes in Pakistan need to maintain free market exchange which will automatically mean more investment in industrial sector. PTI has set the tone. Still much more needs to be done.

We have seen in Lebanon, Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka etc these two bit small countries were not bankrupted because of sanctions or conspiracy.
 
If the original order is deemed contrary to Law, all subsequent orders will be invalidated. However mass resignation of PTI members could propel the assmbly towards reelections.
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No it wont
Zaradari has bought 20 members with few billion rupees..resignation of 130ish members will just lead to by elections
 

General elections not possible in three months, says ECP

ISLAMABAD: The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) has expressed its inability to conduct general elections within three months, citing various legal hitches and procedural challenges as the reason.

A senior official of the ECP told Dawn that the preparations for the general elections would require some six months. He said fresh delimitation of constituencies, particularly in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa where the number of seats had been increased under the 26th Amendment, and bringing district- and constituency-wise electoral rolls in conformity were the major challenges.

“Delimitation is a time-consuming exercise where the law provides for one month’s time just to invite objections,” he said, adding that another one month was required to address the same. He said a minimum of three months would be required to complete the exercise, followed by another gigantic task of updating voters’ lists.

The official said procurement of election material, arrangement for ballot papers and appointment and training of polling staff were also amongst the challenges. He said that under the law, ballot papers with water mark were to be used which were not available in the country and would have to be imported. He revealed that the ECP had proposed to amend the law to provide for ballot papers with ‘security features’, instead of ‘water mark’.

Cites various legal hitches and procedural challenges
The official said inviting bids and scrutinising financial and technical quotations would also require some time. About the election material, he said some two million stamp pads would be required for around 100,000 polling stations. “This is just one example. Other materials in huge quantity, including scissors and ball points, will also have to be procured,” he remarked.

Referring to some legal hitches, the official said that under Section 14 of the Elections Act, the ECP was to announce an election plan four months prior to the polls. He said the law requiring use of EVMs (electronic voting machines) and giving overseas Pakistanis voting rights also held the field and had to be repealed.

The official said the commission had already announced the schedule for local government (LG) elections in Baluchistan, setting May 29 as the polling day, while the process was also under way to hold LG polls in Punjab, Sindh and Islamabad.

“We will have to drop the plan for LG polls, if general elections are to be conducted,” he noted.

Legal, operational challenges

Expressing grave concern over the recent political developments and ensuing constitutional crisis, the Free and Fair Election Network (Fafen) has identified multiple constitutional, legal and operational challenges to the conduct of an early election.

“While the constitutionality of the measures leading to the dissolution of the National Assembly will be decided by the Supreme Court, Fafen hopes for a prompt decision by the apex court, which rightly took up the matter suo moto, as any delay will continue to accrue collateral issues arising out of the constitutional deadlock.

“Public confusion and political divisions that have already arisen as a result can potentially translate into violent expression. Political parties have a great responsibility to manage their workers and make sure that political disagreements do not turn into violence, especially ahead of an early election,” Fafen said in a statement issued on Monday.

According to it, an early election may not be a smooth process in view of several constitutional and legal complications.

“The critical factor for the legitimacy of any election will be the completion of the Election Commission,” it said, pointing out that the ECP members from Punjab and KP were yet to be appointed. The constitutional procedure for appointment of the members under a caretaker set-up remains unclear under Article 213 (2B), which requires the prime minister and the opposition leader to initiate the process in a specially formed committee comprising only senators.

Another concern is the constitutional and legal status of the current delimitation of seats of the national and provincial assemblies since it was carried out on the basis of provisional results of the 2017 census.

Similarly, confusion continues to shroud the practicality and enforcement of the recent amendments to the Elections Act, 2017, pertaining to the use of EVMs and the facilitation of overseas Pakistanis to vote in their country of residence, which were passed by a joint sitting of parliament without the support of the opposition parties.

Fafen said it had always urged the need for electoral reforms through political consensus as majoritarian changes to the election law always led to challenges to the legitimacy of the election outcome and political stability.

The under-registration of women on the electoral rolls is also one of the major issues that the ECP had started to successfully address through targeted campaigns. While the ECP has been able to arrest the rising gender gap on the electoral rolls, there still are 11.37 million women who remain unregistered as voters.

In case the elections are called within three months, the electoral rolls will have to be frozen 30 days before the announcement of the election programme as per Section 39 of the Elections Act, thereby rendering millions of women voters disenfranchised.

Another challenge to early elections is the operational and logistical preparation by the ECP involving recruiting and training around one million polling staff, and printing, publishing and transportation of election materials as well as selection of locations for more than 10,000 polling stations that are to be established due to the addition of more than 15 million voters on the electoral rolls since the 2018 general elections.

Published in Dawn, April 5th, 2022

 

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