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PM Imran Khan live on PTV News - April 2022 .

No one's calling for violence. This is bigger than IK. If Pakistan wants the 3 stooges to come to power again fine, educated people who don't want anything further to do with this country, will leave just like the brain drain / exodus from Karachi and people here can sell their votes and future over a plate of biryani.

Look. I was speaking with my brother in Karachi yesterday. We are Urdu Speakers. Brother said he'd lose all respect for Pakistan if Imran Khan is toppled. I disagreed with him and said that the opposition will not last long in power even IF they manage to grab power and so one must be careful in handling this situation.

Imran Khan should do a Jinnah style politics: Talk calmly about the corrupt elements trying to topple him and that despite that he will follow the constitution. He should not get the Establishment involved. And he should be careful about implicating Americans--he may well know the economic consequences of even a SWIFT ban--immediate and horrible!

Imran wins by losing. He holds his head high. Calmly followed established procedures and let the whole nation see who are the Lota politicians. His stature will rise to new heights. By calling for agitations/protests, which have the high chance to turn violent, he is risking his almost certain gains.
 
IK is doing an Erdo'an move....

As for the puppets, it's the time to panic....

Even Mujib could bring the entire East Pak into a complete standstill for a number of weeks....

Looks like IK wants to settle the matter once and for all...

Hodri Meydan....

"Even Mujib"....Mujib was one of the greatest leaders of the century. I dont know why u talk tho. Youuntr love turkey which is a friend of america and a nato country and friend of nazi ukraine
 
Imo Bajwa has played Dr. Qadeer Khan here. He has given a statement knowing fully well that it will not go well with the masses and he will get roasted. People will call him a traitor and an American poodle. But our establishment is not that stupid. I still believe that Estb. And IK are on the same page.
Just look at the statement calmly. On one side it appeases the west while on the other hand, it gives credence to the IK's stance that Intl. Estb. wants to oust him. Now what is the end result. IK's popularity has sky rocketed and in the coming elections he is sure to get a 2/3 majority which will eventually pave the way for Presidential system, which could NOT have been possible anyother way.
What a master stroke Bajwa has played. I mean this is what Pakistan has been doing with the west/America for the past 20 years. We have been their partners in Afghanistan and also a catalyst for their miserable defeat. Although I hate to say but this "parasitic" policy is the only way forward for Pakistan till the time we gain economic freedom and I consider nothing wrong it.
Lets wait for sometime. Everything will be Okay. Insha'Allah.

Comparing COAS with Dr. Qadeer Khan?

Have you even read the achievements of Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan?

He was an overseas Pakistani who had immense love for the motherland, the spy movies you see nowadays are no match to his achievements. He worked undercover, had command of multiple foreign languages, was a physicist..he left everything and moved to Pakistan to work for the Pakistan atomic program under tenure of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.
 
It seems you have no idea when you claim that an American official wrote to an ex-ambassador! The letter was from the ambassador to FO and it included the official minutes of the meeting with US officials who made the threat then. Minutes of these meetings are exchanged and are official record of what was said!
I seriously don't know why some high level members on PDF are deliberately trying to downplay/undermine/feigning ignorance on this matter.
 
Comparing COAS with Dr. Qadeer Khan?

Have you even read the achievements of Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan?

He was an overseas Pakistani who had immense love for the motherland, the spy movies you see nowadays are no match to his achievements. He worked undercover, had command of multiple foreign languages, was a physicist..he left everything and moved to Pakistan to work for the Pakistan atomic program under tenure of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.
Sir I am comparing their edcational background rather Dr. Q's stance when Pakistan was found to be involved in nuclear proliferation.
 
I had been crying about this for past few months that these corrupted goons will definitely create problems for Khan in upcoming elections. However, they started playing even before the completion of term. I want to say that such kind of treacherous attitude and foundation of PDM which is based on corruption is totally against the wishes of people of Pakistan. We stand with Khan and ready to help in whatever way possible.
Regards
 
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Iqrar ul Hassan doing a program in Karachi in a non PTI strong area and almost all in favor of Khan, all agree with NCV being a foreign backed movement, PPP voters, non voters, other party all saying will vote for Khan, non wants opposition back in power, one even said he would prefer emergency over corrupt lot....
Anyone not going with public emotions right now, is going to dent Pakistan internally in a big way..ppl trust from state will erode..
 
That letter was minutes of meeting and threats issued to the Pak diplomatic staff by more than one US state department officials and/or some US officials.

And there are dozens of Instances where CIA led regime change operation was successful, didn't succeded in Syria and Turkey recently.

There are many intel reports(in media) of US embassy staff meetings with the MNA's who are now against PM IK and on the side of PDM.

So this foreign sponsored no trust motion looks to be abetted by the US.

And that letter spilled the beans, so that threats of grave consequences was the reason its all in the open. Otherwise a no trust motion would have been moved without eliciting that much criticism.

I will admit I have not followed the foreign link closely. The following video where Salim Bukhari connects some people with the letter and says the response from Pakistan should have been carefully sent to Americans. And he gives Zulfi Bhutto's example of dodging Kissinger twice. Having said this... what good is Pakistan's military and ISI if they can't prevent such a change of power in Pakistan done by foreign powers??? Well, they are not intervening because the foreign link is hyped up! BTW, not for the first time a threatened Pakistani leader accuses foreign powers. Even if such a link exists in such a potent way--is risking Pakistan's economy worth it by publicly raising the issue?? There are diplomatic channels, as Mr. Bukhari points out. Would the future Pakistani leader bow to unreasonable American demands? Grandiose diplomacy is done by the leaders in the Middle East. Pakistanis have been generally careful and should be so.


 
If the opposition is serious are care for the people of Pak they should call for early elections should they win the NCV. But alas the corrupt will show their true face as soon as they come to power. The awaam need to take stock of this.
 
IK says army is neutral and he respects them for their neutrality. However, if we look at things from National Security’s perspective, it’s treachery to be neutral when the very own Council on National Security termed this whole ordeal as a “foreign funded and conspired regime change”. It’s not some local politics where army can maintain neutrality. It was the NSCs decision to lodge protest with the US. Why are people not grasping the fact that neutrality is a normal practice but it’s an attack on our National Security and the very own responsible for averting foreign conspiracies are deciding to remain “neutral”. Their neutrality is akin to facilitation in this case.
Sir aap bhi baray bholay hain. It is an established fact, through circumstances that have developed over the past few days, that Mr. B is involved, if not the main culprit, for a regime change in Pakistan. Your request for a breach of neutrality is based on false assumptions.
 
I will admit I have not followed the foreign link closely. The following video where Salim Bukhari connects some people with the letter and says the response from Pakistan should have been carefully sent to Americans. And he gives Zulfi Bhutto's example of dodging Kissinger twice. Having said this... what good is Pakistan's military and ISI if they can't prevent such a change of power in Pakistan done by foreign powers??? Well, they are not intervening because the foreign link is hyped up! BTW, not for the first time a threatened Pakistani leader accuses foreign powers. Even if such a link exists in such a potent way--is risking Pakistan's economy worth it by publicly raising the issue?? There are diplomatic channels, as Mr. Bukhari points out. Would the future Pakistani leader bow to unreasonable American demands? Grandiose diplomacy is done by the leaders in the Middle East. Pakistanis have been generally careful and should be so.


thing is embassy ppl meeting with oppositon leaders , pti turncoats and potential turncoats plus some former allies of PTI govt. and all this had started from sept/oct last year. There are now some anchors who have already reported this and IK too indicated in his IV yesterday..
 

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