PM Imran Khan Historic Speech in Joint Session of Parliament on Kashmir

[Shane]

My 2 bits are, f the speeches they are useless. Prepare for war.

Yes, war is inevitable. Still every avenue has its utility...

Nawaz made the foreign office literally redundant, now we are reaping the rewards of years of diplomatic neglect and selfish family and self serving policies.

Pakistan needs to take practical steps towards escalating the stakes along not just the LOC but entire border area.

The world will only notice if we show real intent and take matters into our own hands instead of being reactionary and retaliatory all the time.

 

[Path-Finder]

Yes, war is inevitable. Still every avenue has its utility...

Nawaz made the foreign office literally redundant, now we are reaping the rewards of years of diplomatic neglect and selfish family and self serving policies.

Pakistan needs to take practical steps towards escalating the stakes along not just the LOC but entire border area.

The world will only notice if we show real intent and take matters into our own hands instead of being reactionary and retaliatory all the time.

Why are we keeping that kabaria in jail when it should be hanged! His bleeding daughter is a disgrace and should be shown to the gallows too.

Isn't it time he was made to answer for kargil among other things that swine has done to Pakistan?

Practically no one cares untill you are at their necks. This Kashmir thing didn't happen over night. The bad people never stop scheming.

 

[Path-Finder]

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[Shane]

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Great share brother. I posted a thread on the actual reason why Sharif family betrayed Pakistan >here<

 

[airmarshal]

It was a good speech but a rabid dog like Modi, who is a bully wont understand intellectual stories about war being destructive and blah blah.

A strong, unequivocal statement of intent should be delivered. Tangible actions like airspace closure, downgrading of diplomatic relations and closing Wagah border should be taken. ICC should be consulted. Actions speak louder than words.

Imran speech was good, but it revealed a weakness and indecisiveness as well. A sniff of weakness is enough for a bully like Modi to bully more.

 

[1Paki$tani]

It was a good speech but a rabid dog like Modi, who is a bully wont understand intellectual stories about war being destructive and blah blah.

A strong, unequivocal statement of intent should be delivered. Tangible actions like airspace closure, downgrading of diplomatic relations and closing Wagah border should be taken. ICC should be consulted. Actions speak louder than words.

Imran speech was good, but it revealed a weakness and indecisiveness as well. A sniff of weakness is enough for a bully like Modi to bully more.

No it does not. He can see the matter is going towards war and that world has final chance to step in before its too late.

I wrote yesterday world has to intervene because if there is war the nuke threshold is very low. You only have to seek Indian reaction after 27 Feb that they ran for their missile which could lead to accidental nuke war.

He knows conflict is coming but there is no harm in trying to prevent it if one could. The conflict will be bloodbath which can be and should be avoided.

 

[airmarshal]

No it does not. He can see the matter is going towards war and that world has final chance to step in before its too late.

I wrote yesterday world has to intervene because if there is war the nuke threshold is very low. You only have to seek Indian reaction after 27 Feb that they ran for their missile which could lead to accidental nuke war.

He knows conflict is coming but there is no harm in trying to prevent it if one could. The conflict will be bloodbath which can be and should be avoided.

Thats quite true.

 

[I.R.A]

Why you worry about Calibri Queen paid trolls?

Next time you want to call me something ........ say it directly to me.

Unlike you I don't keep changing colors overnight, your whole existence on this forum is dedicated to spreading discord. Day before yesterday you were vehemently trying to push your pessimistic view that Pakistan cannot do anything now ....... and yesterday you wanted Pakistan to go to war.

 

[Norwegian]

Next time you want to call me something ........ say it directly to me.

Unlike you I don't keep changing colors overnight, your whole existence on this forum is dedicated to spreading discord. Day before yesterday you were vehemently trying to push your pessimistic view that Pakistan cannot do anything now ....... and yesterday you wanted Pakistan to go to war.

War is the last resort. I was criticizing those that wanted war immediately.

 

[I.R.A]

So kahan ga woh tamamam log jo abbi chor macha raha tha ka PM nahi aya, Kashmir per koi bayan nahi diya, treason kia ha, coward ha. Let me tag them @I.R.A @volatile @Jf Thunder

@Arsalan @Dubious @IceCold @Radd-ul-Fasaad @PakSword @Path-Finder @Mugen @Retired Troll @Tameem @I.R.A @Imad.Khan @Norwegian @Verve
@Ali Tariq
I hope it helps

Let me breakdown the apparent contradictions .........

Mr. Imran Khan said something on the lines

"Jinnah's August 11th speech is actually what happened in Medina and is totally in accordance with Islam and its message" agreed however, "Jinnah realised the mentality of Hindu (including Gandhi and Nehru obviously) and that's why he wanted a separate country for Muslims and others" point to be noted that IK considered Gandhi and Nehru the same as Modi and co.

Now down the line after some emotional remarks IK said "It is the same ideology that killed Gandhi, they are attacking the secular values left by Gandhi and Nehru" ........ I don't know what to make of it.

And then when he talked about opposition parties in india he immediately realised oh sh*t I am doing the same here in Pakistan ..... and made a quick U turn (not that it concerns me, but still)

Now coming to the main part and thing that people celebrate .....

IK in his speech has totally made Pakistan a separate party from people of Kashmir, the phrases like "We will keep lending our moral support to people of Kashmir, we will keep backing them on every forum, we will keep raising voices ....... and blah and blah and blah ........"

Indirectly and basically it means ... people of Kashmir are not part of people of Pakistan, their killing, their maiming, their blinding at hands of oppressors doesn't directly affect Pakistan and Pakistanis.


Instead you people in your myopic views and in love of IK call me a paid troll of Maryam ........... Why not ask Jahangir Tareen to fund some rallies and gatherings to in support of people of oppressed Kashmir? Arrange the music and dancing (I won't mind) ......... or spending money on such gatherings isn't halal, or they don't make good enough memes of Jahangir Tareen for you? Ask him to spare some for this noble cause ........ it is as halal as spending it on buying MPAs / MNAs and senators.

 

[tkmd]

Why r people declaring that war is coming? What war? India is doing nonsense in territory it controls. Stop preparing for war. Learn a skill, fix our economy so the real soldiers can take out abhinandan's by the thousands.

 

[volatile]

There was nothing historic other than class 7 Pak studies lecture . Now instead of jumping here and there tell me what concrete has been achieved ? .The same is the old General Musharaf proposed model of division of Kashmir which was carried out and some how IK and his stogies are part of this . If they are then why they didnt knew this was going to happen ,may be we were busy in Senate Elections . Grow up IK didnt have the balls by the way Khan sb own formula was in 2015 was the same as well .

https://www.khaleejtimes.com/intern...nother-pulwama-after-indias-kashmir-decision-

The global media reacts to childish remarks of IK by declaring above ,In all over the world (Other than Pakistan) India has established that Pulwana was carried out by terrorist from Pakistan . Is this the highlight of historic speech ?

 

[IceCold]

yaar kiya tha is mey historic?itni thando speech.meh
kiya aap bata saktey hain kon sey actions ley g Imran gov?
kiya imran ney pakistani ambasdor ko wapis bualya hey?
kiya imran gov ney indian ambasdor ko wapis beja hey?
kiya imran gov ney koi sey har kisam key talukkat torney ka ilan kiya hey?
kiya koi road map diya hey?
kiya Imran ney amit shah ko jawab diya hey?
essi thandi speech kar k kiya sabit karna chah rahey hain PM imran?
kiya humey yeh sab history pata naghi thi ju speech mey duhrayi gayi hy?
PM imran ney history lessons k ilawa kiya kaha hey is speech mey?

Tum logon main sabar naam ki koi cheez ha kah bus trolling kerna or shor machana ka shok ha?

Niazi is a spineless coward. Today i am feeling ashamed to be a Pakistani ,even hookers have more dignity than Pakistani states

No moron he has more guts than the likes of you ever will, the pain you are experiencing is for something else and not because of what he said.
If you are so ashamed to be a Pakistani, we are equally ashamed to have a Pakistani like yourself. So when are you going to denounce your Pakistani nationality? Let see if you have the guts to put your money where your mouth is.

 

[Shane]

Now down the line after some emotional remarks IK said "It is the same ideology that killed Gandhi, they are attacking the secular values left by Gandhi and Nehru" ........ I don't know what to make of it.

You dont know what to make of it because he said that their extremist RSS ideology is even against Indian secular claims and this same ideology killed Gandhi. So ?

And then when he talked about opposition parties in india he immediately realised oh sh*t I am doing the same here in Pakistan ..... and made a quick U turn (not that it concerns me, but still)

The opposition was shouting and trying to interrupt him and he was clearly getting annoyed by it many times during his speech and this was such a time that you pointed out too...but dear the OPPOSITION IN INDIA HAS NOT LOOTED THEIR COUNTRY DRY LIKE OUR CORRUPT OPPOSITION LEADERSHIP ...

Its obvious that you are not willing to recognize the difference between a government going after economic terrorists corrupt leadership of PMLN and PPP and an Extremist Racist Fascist governent of BJP.

IK in his speech has totally made Pakistan a separate party from people of Kashmir,

Its not IK who made Pakistan separate party from people of Kashmir, there are and always have been three stake holders and Kashmiri Hurriat Conference leadership too says the same: India, Pakistan and Kashmiris.

Then you say INDIRECTLY it means he made them separate this and that???

Instead you people in your myopic views and in love of IK call me a paid troll of Maryam

Which people is that dear? by your own interpretation, are you calling those who disagree with you as a separate Nation???

I didn't call you a paid troll of Maryam, I know you are not.

I know its fashionable to bash IK these days but this is not the time to be doing this.

Pakistan's state institutions and GOP are all on the same page on this.

Its just that some of us can't seem to look beyond local politics at the larger picture where it is about war of two clear narratives. This is not the time to be harping a tune that weakens Pakistan and strengthen India.
Maryam Nawaz seems to least care who's narrative she is aligned with in her rage against PM IK.

Her selfishness is understandable so is the goal of her Social Media Cell cronies... Just think about the local politics two bit selfish game being played here.

 

[I.R.A]

You dont know what to make of it because he said that their extremist RSS ideology is even against Indian secular claims and this same ideology killed Gandhi. So ?

When IK says Jinnah was able to look through congress (Gandhi's and Nehru's) designs ....... meaning they were no different than BJP Modi ...... later Gandhi becomes a saint in IK's speech.

but dear the OPPOSITION IN INDIA HAS NOT LOOTED THEIR COUNTRY DRY LIKE OUR CORRUPT OPPOSITION LEADERSHIP ...

You sure about that statement ........ modi got hold of india because indians thought MMS and congress were corrupt

Its not IK who made Pakistan separate party from people of Kashmir, there are and always have been three stake holders and Kashmiri Hurriat Conference leadership too says the same: India, Pakistan and Kashmiris.

Then you say INDIRECTLY it means he made them separate this and that???

It should have been IK, careful with his words ....... each statement of his made Kashmiris look unrelated to Pakistan and Pakistanis ... a separate 3rd party.

Its just that some of us can't seem to look beyond local politics at the larger picture where it is about war of two clear narratives. This is not the time to be harping a tune that weakens Pakistan and strengthen India.
Maryam Nawaz seems to least care who's narrative she is aligned with in her rage against PM IK.

I am not part of domestic politics ....... I am interested in what PM of Pakistan has said. And what he said is not enough.