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I googled the above names also and came up with this..

AGNI
Agni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Agni is a Hindu and Vedic deity.Agni is one of the most important of the Vedic gods. He is the god of fire and the acceptor of sacrifices. The sacrifices made to Agni go to the deities because Agni is a messenger from and to the other gods.
Agni, the Vedic god of fire who presides over the earth, has made the transition into the Hindu pantheon of gods, without losing his importance.

PRITHVI
Prithvi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Prithvi (Sanskrit: pṛthvī, also pṛthivī) is the Hindu earth and mother goddess. According to one tradition, she is the personification of the Earth, and to another its Mother.

AKASH
Akash Bhairav - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Akash Bhairav is a Hindu deity, worshipped in particular in Nepal. Considered the "god of the sky", several large temples in Kathmandu are dedicated to him.

we worship the elements...(you know that we are all 'pagans')
the elements are not anti-pakistan or anti-muslim/christian for that matter.
 
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I googled the above names also and came up with this..

AGNI
Agni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Agni is a Hindu and Vedic deity.Agni is one of the most important of the Vedic gods. He is the god of fire and the acceptor of sacrifices. The sacrifices made to Agni go to the deities because Agni is a messenger from and to the other gods.
Agni, the Vedic god of fire who presides over the earth, has made the transition into the Hindu pantheon of gods, without losing his importance.

PRITHVI
Prithvi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Prithvi (Sanskrit: pṛthvī, also pṛthivī) is the Hindu earth and mother goddess. According to one tradition, she is the personification of the Earth, and to another its Mother.

AKASH
Akash Bhairav - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Akash Bhairav is a Hindu deity, worshipped in particular in Nepal. Considered the "god of the sky", several large temples in Kathmandu are dedicated to him.

???.....what is agni,prithvi or akash?........they are simple hindi for fire,earth and sky,do we use any other words to identify this three???......you people,dont have any idea bout what you are posting and the significance of this names,nor you have any interest in learning the facts......you just post in this thread to blur india's image .......'baithe baithe kya karein karna hai kuch kam,shuru karo india-bashing leke religion ka nam!!!'
 
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I googled the above names also and came up with this..

AGNI
Agni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Agni is a Hindu and Vedic deity.Agni is one of the most important of the Vedic gods. He is the god of fire and the acceptor of sacrifices. The sacrifices made to Agni go to the deities because Agni is a messenger from and to the other gods.
Agni, the Vedic god of fire who presides over the earth, has made the transition into the Hindu pantheon of gods, without losing his importance.

PRITHVI
Prithvi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Prithvi (Sanskrit: pṛthvī, also pṛthivī) is the Hindu earth and mother goddess. According to one tradition, she is the personification of the Earth, and to another its Mother.

AKASH
Akash Bhairav - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Akash Bhairav is a Hindu deity, worshipped in particular in Nepal. Considered the "god of the sky", several large temples in Kathmandu are dedicated to him.

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Few more pages this thread is going to survive.

Have fun guys.

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we worship the elements...(you know that we are all 'pagans')
the elements are not anti-pakistan or anti-muslim/christian for that matter.

You name your weapons systems what you want.
But i dont understand why you indians just dont admit that there named after hindu gods,after all india in is majority hindu.
 
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we worship the elements...(you know that we are all 'pagans')
the elements are not anti-pakistan or anti-muslim/christian for that matter.

I an no expert on the hindu faith and dont claim to be......i just googled and came up with the following......its either somebody has put a total lie on wiki and non of the mentioned are gods and then some hindu scholars needs to go and amend wiki.
 
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The Agni and Prithvi named by APJ Abdul Kalam(Wings of Fire).
 
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I an no expert on the hindu faith and dont claim to be......i just googled and came up with the following......its either somebody has put a total lie on wiki and non of the mentioned are gods and then some hindu scholars needs to go and amend wiki.
does your finding suggest Indian should stop using words from their own language as they appeared to be the names of vaidic God/Goddess. ...........Ganesh, Laxmi,vishnu,Shiva....would have been the names of the weapons if India has to name them after God/Goddess.
 
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???.....what is agni,prithvi or akash?

According to wiki there hindu gods....i didnt write the piece in wiki and if its wrong go onto wiki and amend it.

........they are simple hindi for fire,earth and sky,do we use any other words to identify this three???

So its just coincidence that here also hindu gods with the same names?

......you people,dont have any idea bout what you are posting and the significance of this names,

When i google agni it says its a hindu god....what to you expect me to think?

nor you have any interest in learning the facts......

please go ahead and enlighten me
 
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does your finding suggest Indian should stop using words from their own language as they appeared to be the names of vaidic God/Goddess. ...........Ganesh, Laxmi,vishnu,Shiva....would have been the names of the weapons if India has to name them after God/Goddess.

You call you weapons what you want.....am only pointing out that when you google the names of the weapons systems mentioned it it says that there hindu gods,but why the total denial of any hindu influence on the naming.....india is a hindu majority nation last i checked so its only natural that you would name things that you worship or national heros ect.
 
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Dabong yar,go through the whole thread please.......you'll get it........
 
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I an no expert on the hindu faith and dont claim to be......i just googled and came up with the following......its either somebody has put a total lie on wiki and non of the mentioned are gods and then some hindu scholars needs to go and amend wiki.

hmmm...your posts show that you dont know much about Hinduism...
we have about a million gods...in fact all that is nature is worshiped by us....hence the confusion.
and i am curious...what is that you googled...as akash bhairav is not a well know deity in india...but if you go to the gods of Hinduism page in the wiki you get it as the first or second name...
 
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Dabong yar,go through the whole thread please.......you'll get it........

Jako,

Dabong is here for TP, he knows very well what he is talking.

I am going to add some fuel to the debate.
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Dablong,

Why have you left Surya Missile ?

That's the only thing which i pray every morning. Be fair to me...;)
 
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hmmm...your posts show that you dont know much about Hinduism...
we have about a million gods...in fact all that is nature is worshiped by us....hence the confusion.

The people that are posting things about indian missile on wiki then should refrain from bringing up the connection with hindu gods dont you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agni_(missile)
The Agni missile (Sanskrit: अग्नि, Agnī "Fire",
As soon you press agni it takes you to hindu god.......i hope you understand why pakistanis think there some sort of connection.



and i am curious...what is that you googled...as akash bhairav is not a well know deity in india...but if you go to the gods of Hinduism page in the wiki you get it as the first or second name...

I googled the first two and they took me straight to hindu gods.....going of that logic i presumed that akash must also be some sort of hindu god,so when i googled i got the names of indian restraunts....i googled akash hindu and i got "Akash missile, a surface-to-air missile developed in India; Akashic records, a concept in theosophy; Akash Bhairav, a Hindu deity worshipped".....try it yourself if you want.
 
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Dablong,

Why have you left Surya Missile ?

No i have not but i googled it and this is the second thing down
In Hinduism,
Sūrya The term "Surya" also refers to the Sun, in general. Surya has hair and arms of gold. Surya drives through the heaven in his triumphal chariot harnessed by seven horses or one horse with seven heads , which represent the seven colours of the rainbow or the seven chakras. He presides over "Surya-waar" or Sunday.
In Hindu religious literature, Surya is notably mentioned as the visible form of God that one can see every day.

It seems to be another dual word that can represent a figure-god in the hindu faith or mean the sun.......thats the way it looks to me at the moment until you tell me better.
 
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Asia's missiles strike at the heart
By Sudha Ramachandran

BANGALORE - Even as India and Pakistan press ahead with confidence-building measures contributing to a new bonhomie between them, they seem loathe to abandon old habits. Pakistan naming its first cruise missile Babar could signal that one and a half years into the peace process, Islamabad's hostility-driven, missile-naming tradition remains largely unchanged. But there is a change in the mindset, albeit marginal, that many might be missing.On August 11, Pakistan test-fired its first cruise missile. The missile, which has a range of 310 miles and is capable of carrying nuclear and conventional warheads, was tested barely two days after India and Pakistan formalized an agreement on notifying each other in advance about missile tests. The failure to notify0„2Delhi did annoy some in India. But in testing Babar, Pakistan was not violating the text of the agreement as the missile tested is not a ballistic one and does not fall under the scope of the agreement.Meanwhile, the cruise missile's name has ruffled some feathers in India. It was named after Babar, a Muslim king from Central Asia who centuries ago invaded India and founded the Moghul dynasty. While Babar is looked upon with regard by most Indians as thefounder of the Moghul dynasty rather than as an invader, the naming of the missile after Babar has not gone down well with somewho still see it as part of a Pakistani convention of naming missiles after Muslim invaders of India. Ghauri, Ghaznavi and Abdali are some of other names Pakistan has given its missiles. The names are of Muslim kings who invaded India between the 11th and18th century.In 1988, when India test-fired its surface-to-air missile, Prithvi, Pakistan responded by not only testing a missile the following year but also by naming it Ghauri. In that case, Pakistan named its missile after misunderstanding the Indian missile-naming tradition. Pakistan believed Prithvi was named after Prithvi Raj Chauhan, a 12th century Hindu ruler in northern India. Consequently, it chose the name Ghauri for its response. Mohammed Ghauri was an Afghan warlord who in the 12th century invaded India andwaged two wars against Prithvi Raj Chauhan. Mohammed Ghauri was defeated in the first battle but returned to inflict a crushingdefeat on Prithvi Raj the following year.But that is not how the name Prithvi was derived. Prithvi means earth, and the Indian convention is to name missiles after the elements. It was this logic that prompted India to name its subsequent missiles Agni (fire) and Akash (sky).Many Indians might have dismissed Pakistan's naming of the first missile it test-fired as Ghauri as the result of that misunderstanding had Islamabad stopped with Ghauri. It did not. Subsequent Pakistani missiles have carried the names of Muslim invaders, particularly notorious for looting Hindu temples.The Ghaznavi missiles are named after Mahmud Ghaznavi (971-1030), an Afghan warlord who is described in history books as a destroyer of Hindu temples. Mahmud Ghaznavi directed his attacks on the temple towns of Thanesar, Mathura, Kannauj and Somnath, and stripped these temples of their wealth, then destroyed them. The Abdali missiles are named after Ahmed Shah Abdali (1724-1773), an Afghan king whose invasion of India is particularly notorious for its month-long pillage of Delhi.Names of missiles have the capacity to generate passionate debate in the sub-continent that is almost as heated as that over themissile capabilities. Most Pakistanis continue to believe that Indian missile names "are inspired by Hindu history". Some admitthat Pakistan misinterpreted the naming of the Prithvi missile but the general perception is that the Indian missile names are linked to history.Dr Hassan Askari Rizvi, a Lahore-based academic, told Asia Times Online that "the names of some Indian missiles ¨C Agni and Prithvi for instance - appear to have cultural and historical reference points". A student from Karachi told this correspondent that "the names of Indian missiles are offensive to the subcontinent's Muslims.""The Prithvi missile was named after a Hindu king, Agni refers to the God of Fire, not fire the element, and the Trishul missilehas been named after the trishul [trident] wielded by the Hindu God Siva," he said.Indians dismiss these allegations as unfounded. It is true that fire and earth are worshipped by Hindus and nature worship is animportant aspect of Hinduism. "But the naming of missiles after the elements does not have religious underpinnings, neither does it evoke hostile imagery nor is it offensive to Muslim sensibilities," insisted a retired Indian Defense Ministry official.He points out that not all Pakistani missiles are named after invaders. "Names like Hatf [Prophet Mohammed's sword, which according to legend never missed its target] might be drawn from Islam, but these are not offensive to Indian or Hindu sensibilities,"he said.A look at Indian and Pakistani blogs on the subject would indicate how closely the names of missiles are watched, the sharp emotions they evoke and the extent to which the issues surrounding the names are dissected. Several Indian bloggers point out that the Muslim rulers after whom Pakistan named its missiles were Afghans, who before plundering territory lying in what is today India, ransacked towns in present day Pakistan.One blogger points out: "The funny thing is Babar [after whom the missile test-fired in August is named] fought against Ibrahim Lodhi, a Muslim king. So Babar must have killed a good number of Muslims in his conquest. Same with Nadir Shah, Ghaznavi and Ghauri [who] must have raped a large number of women in the border areas of India, which is presently Pakistan."So what drives the missile-naming tradition? Ammara Durrani, assistant editor at the Pakistani English daily The News, told AsiaTimes Online that Pakistan's naming of its missiles "after traditional Muslim war heroes" and the Indian government's naming ofits missiles "in no less historically militant terms" are not surprising. "Both establishments know that thanks to the largely antagonistic and falsified accounts of history taught to their mass populations, these names would have more resonance and mass appeal for their respective populations in hating the enemy and glorifying the arms for their annihilation. For the vested interests of the two establishments, what better way to perpetuate the India-Pakistan conflict than to induce in it symbolism - through historical references such as the missile names - of the centuries' old Hindu-Muslim and invader-vanquished hostile frames ofthought?" she asked.The BBC's Islamabad correspondent Zafar Abbas points out, "Pakistan has never given any specific reason for naming these missiles after such historical figures. But the symbolism is a clear reflection of the official mindset in the country. It shows that for Islamabad, the present conflict with India is a continuation of the battles of the past between people described in Pakistanihistory books as just Muslim invaders and several of India's cruel Hindu emperors."For both the Indian and Pakistani governments the missile program is as much about enhancing military capabilities vis-a-vis theother as it is about sending signals to their own domestic audiences. India's former chief of army staff General V P Malik wrote that the display of models of the latest missiles is an important part of the military parades "to convey and often exaggeratetechnological and military capabilities".A successful missile test is projected to domestic audiences as a major national technical breakthrough and acquisition of an important capability, as a significant achievement of the government. Models of ballistic missiles were erected and displayed in several Pakistani cities, reminders of the Pakistan government's macho military image and of its "fitting response" to India's nuclear-missile program.To some Indians the names given to recent Pakistani missiles holds out some hope. True, the Babar missile is named after yet another Muslim invader, but he figures in the sub-continent's imagination more as a king who invaded and stayed to found a gloriousempire rather than as a plunderer. Noted Indian security analyst and author of the forthcoming bookMinimum Deterrence and India's Nuclear Security, Rajesh Basrur, points out that Babar defeated another Muslim king to found the Moghul dynasty in India. "So maybe [the naming tradition] is just down to power and success now," he said.An attempt to create distance from medieval, hostile, negative imagery in naming missiles is more evident in the case of the Shaheen missile. Durrani argues that "the name Shaheen [eagle in Urdu] could be an attempt by the Pakistani government to introducea modern language of symbolism, one that falls less on martial references of medieval times, and derives more universal appeal from concepts of enlightenment and progressiveness, as envisaged by [Pakistan's national poet] Mohammed Iqbal [respected in India as well], who urged Muslims of the sub-continent to 'fly like an eagle' in its quest for progress and unity. This move could be an attempt by the Pakistani government to make a slight departure from its traditional approach, to portray its modern image in tune with post-Cold War political ethos."

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