PLAAF vs. USAF

[gurjot]

without third country help no one can defeat each others

 

[mDumb]

<Here is a scenario......imagine entire American Air Force with it's full offensive capability dives on chinese coasts. Have chinese ever thought of that????>

What makes you think the Chinese military doesn't think about this scenario?

Has the US military thought of the consequences of doing the above?

There are only two nations that can go blow with the US: China and Russia period but Russia's survivability is questionable in the future. So, it may very well be just China.

So, the likelihood for Congress to declare was against China is pretty much nil.

<thanks for sharing a good troll thread, PLAAF VS USAF, right, hope you are having fun with it.>

Do you even understand what this thread about?

Let me restate the earlier statements or paragraphs:
<<Colonel Yan was coy when asked about the J11, but said that he hoped to demonstrate the J10 at international air shows as early as next year. &#8220;I want to fly with the Thunderbirds,&#8221; he joked.

Yeah, I would like to see the J10 against the Thunderbirds' F16C and F16D at the international air shows.>>

So, what makes you think J10 is inferior against F16C or F16D? Do you have data to backup? Otherwise, don't make a stupid comment like this thread is a troll.

 

[dragonbane]

Welcome to troll thread PLAAF vs USAF, yes its BS, but it became even more annoying when a beggar's doggie started to bark, may be its appropiate to refresh the doggie's nightmare, it might help to calm it down.




And since you not interesting in discussing military stuffs, or you want to discuss poverty or sanitation issues ?

Oh, btw, don't even mention Indians in US, cos curry house are no culture, i hate curry, it stink.

And yes, you know anything about "bathroom"?

Nice talking to you pal, have a good day.

did u look at what happened in the 1962 war? it was 80,000 vs 12,000 in favor of the chinese side. and on top of that it was what u call a sneak attack when India was unprepared.

oh and to those who talk about iraq, vietnam, etc...

Those were guerrilla wars, what we are talking about is plaaf vs USAF right? i dont think army should be involved here.

point of the matter is: USAF would obliterate the plaaf in DAYS if not weeks, they stand NO CHANCE in hell.

1st the stealth f-22's would come in and destroy critical radars and SAM systems. then the b2s would come in to finish what the f-22s started. once AD system is down, its all over.

 

[Black Stone]

We are decades ahead in terms of technology, but the descendants of the dragon are catching up fast.

It would be unwise to underestimate them.

 

[Brotherhood]

did u look at what happened in the 1962 war? it was 80,000 vs 12,000 in favor of the chinese side. and on top of that it was what u call a sneak attack when India was unprepared.

oh and to those who talk about iraq, vietnam, etc...

Those were guerrilla wars, what we are talking about is plaaf vs USAF right? i dont think army should be involved here.

point of the matter is: USAF would obliterate the plaaf in DAYS if not weeks, they stand NO CHANCE in hell.

1st the stealth f-22's would come in and destroy critical radars and SAM systems. then the b2s would come in to finish what the f-22s started. once AD system is down, its all over.

Did you take a good look at the cartoon picture before you shoot?
India got two big brother backing her rear whom happened to be the most powerful country at that time, you still got your *** kicked.

It doesn't matter about speculation or prediction regarding PLAAF vs USAF, cos nobody know, what matter and is a hard cold fact India did suffer a shameful defeat in 1962 period.

BTW, who is that poor guy eating dirt on the ground?

 

[below_freezing]

did u look at what happened in the 1962 war? it was 80,000 vs 12,000 in favor of the chinese side. and on top of that it was what u call a sneak attack when India was unprepared.

oh and to those who talk about iraq, vietnam, etc...

Those were guerrilla wars, what we are talking about is plaaf vs USAF right? i dont think army should be involved here.

point of the matter is: USAF would obliterate the plaaf in DAYS if not weeks, they stand NO CHANCE in hell.

1st the stealth f-22's would come in and destroy critical radars and SAM systems. then the b2s would come in to finish what the f-22s started. once AD system is down, its all over.

and then we nuke the US when we're about to lose. we always have the option of taking them down with us if we start losing and the US knows it and can't do anything about it. if it was that easy they would've done it already lol. way before iraq.

On the other hand if USAF attacks India they can do so with impunity since india can never nuke the US back.

 

[applesauce]

people, china has only been in proper development for some 30 years, prior to that it was one disaster after another, give it another 30 then this thread could be very interesting indeed

 

[below_freezing]

doesn't matter, USAF won't dare touch us because they know our limits.

on the other hand india better watch out if oil is discovered there.

 

[mDumb]

<people, china has only been in proper development for some 30 years, prior to that it was one disaster after another, give it another 30 then this thread could be very interesting indeed>

The paragraph is not completely accurate. Yes, it's true the Great Leap Forward ('58 - '61) and Cultural Revolution ('66 to '76) brought setbacks to China but luckily the development of nuclear weapons, rockets, and missiles, warplanes, and warships were not affected.

So, if you look at the dates below China has been developing nuclear weapons, missiles, warplanes, etc. for >50 years.

What you need to understand about China's weapon developments is that the mission of Chinese military has evolved from static defense to active defense recently. This is why China only recently (maybe last 20 years) start to upgrade their weapons or develop more exotic weapons for long range missions.

Let's look at the US combat aircrafts:
F14, F15, F15E, F16, F/A18 these planes are old (although they've been upgraded constantly). New planes are F-22 and F-35 but the PLAAF is also building planes to encounter these two.

So, really until there's an actual combat between US and China in the sky, you really can't speculate one is better than the other (unless you're biased).

1953:
Initiated research leading to the development of nuclear weapons.

The Chinese developed a joint agreement with the Soviet Union for the license production of five different kinds of ships in the Soviet Navy in June 1953 those being: frigates, medium-sized torpedo submarines, minesweepers, large submarine chasers, and torpedo boats.

1955:
The PLAAF began manufacturing its own aircraft, but these were copies of Soviet types. The first to be built was the J-4 which was a copy of the MiG-15.

1956:
Qian Xuesen put forward "Proposal on the Development of China's Aviation Industry for National Defense" and assisted Zhou Enlai, the then premiere, and Marshal Nie Rongzheng to prepare the establishment of China's first missile and rocket R&D structure, the Fifth Research Institute of State Ministry of Defense.

 

[Schindler]

Did china already took over russian airforce? That they started comparing itself with mighty USAF? First compare and see where PLAAF stands in front of Russian airforce and than dream taking on USAF.

 

[gambit]

doesn't matter, USAF won't dare touch us because they know our limits.

on the other hand india better watch out if oil is discovered there.

We know your limits. We can do more than 'touch' you. We can destroy or ground the PLAAF in one campaign.

 

[dragonbane]

Did you take a good look at the cartoon picture before you shoot?
India got two big brother backing her rear whom happened to be the most powerful country at that time, you still got your *** kicked.

It doesn't matter about speculation or prediction regarding PLAAF vs USAF, cos nobody know, what matter and is a hard cold fact India did suffer a shameful defeat in 1962 period.

BTW, who is that poor guy eating dirt on the ground?

do u know why china chose to attack during that time? it was during the Cuban missile crisis, the world was on the verge of WW III and china took advantage of the situation, knowing no one would interfere. and i wouldn't say they got their *** kicked, it was 12,000 to 80,000 and they killed 800 while losing 1600 which isn't too bad for being outnumbered 8:1.

 

[dragonbane]

and then we nuke the US when we're about to lose. we always have the option of taking them down with us if we start losing and the US knows it and can't do anything about it. if it was that easy they would've done it already lol. way before iraq.

On the other hand if USAF attacks India they can do so with impunity since india can never nuke the US back.

ur ideas are pretty stupid,

1. 200-300 nukes vs 5000, who loses? and who gets injured but gets back up?

2. India only needs nukes against china and pakistan, there is no need for missiles above 4000 km range and its a waste of money to develop them.

 

[Brotherhood]

do u know why china chose to attack during that time? it was during the Cuban missile crisis, the world was on the verge of WW III and china took advantage of the situation, knowing no one would interfere. and i wouldn't say they got their *** kicked, it was 12,000 to 80,000 and they killed 800 while losing 1600 which isn't too bad for being outnumbered 8:1.

True, any smart leaders will chose the right moment to their advantage, why not, only the dumbo will pick a fight without understood their limitations, thats why you got your butt kicked.

Who will stupid enough to risk a three fronts war, including the only two super powers in the world? don't forget you got two big brother supporting you.

3000 plus of your armyboys sacrificed for the stupidity of your leaders, not your figures, excuses, more excuses, then why provoked us in the first place with your "forward policy"?

Why GOI still refused to disclose the "Henderson report" to you? thats will not take a genius to figure it out why.

 

[xuxu1457]

ur ideas are pretty stupid,

1. 200-300 nukes vs 5000, who loses? and who gets injured but gets back up?

2. India only needs nukes against china and pakistan, there is no need for missiles above 4000 km range and its a waste of money to develop them.

1.300 nukes can destroy the earth 1 time,6000 can 20 times,but we only have one earth;You must know the "Nuclear winter",even a small-scale nuclear war(100 nukes) can kill half people of the world and make Agricultural crops
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter
So I don't think US and China ,China and India ,even Pakistan and India will have a whole war~
2.Indian need 4000 km range missile to attack whole China(waiting for Agni-5 but now India has 0),China only need 1000km range missile to attack whole Indian(China has at least more than 1000now)