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The Indian Air Force is facing a crisis after at least 200 pilots indicated they wanted to leave the service, a BBC investigation has discovered.

The pilots say poor working and living conditions, and the difficulty of living apart from their families, have prompted their decisions.

But they say the IAF is not allowing them to quit their jobs. One pilot attempted suicide after being refused.

The IAF said premature retirement cases were decided only after proper

scrutiny.


Having given the prime years of my youth to the country, what have I asked for? Just to be allowed to live with my family

Air force pilot

Many serving pilots spoken to by the BBC in different parts of India say they are no longer motivated to carry on in service while being separated from their families. They say deteriorating service conditions and a culture of "sycophancy being promoted by senior officers" is making it difficult for them to work.

They say the situation is aggravated by the authorities' refusal to allow them to quit.

'Victimised'

Figures obtained by the BBC show that between 2002 and 2004, 263 pilots were allowed by the IAF authorities to seek premature retirement.

However, in 2005 only eight pilots were allowed to leave.

The BBC has seen classified documents that show that one of those given premature retirement managed to do so only after he obtained a letter from a member of parliament.


The IAF says it spends millions of rupees on each pilot's training
One of the pilots, with more than a decade of service with the IAF, said he was dismayed at not having been given permission to leave the force, and felt victimised.

"Having given the prime years of my youth to the country, what have I asked for? Just to be allowed to live with my family. Even that is being denied," he told the BBC.

"I have been told by the authorities to shut up, otherwise I would be transferred to a place from where I would be able to do nothing," he said.

Air force response

Another pilot who was denied permission to leave attempted to commit suicide.

He is currently undergoing psychiatric help in an army hospital.

In a written response to the BBC, the IAF said: "When any officer of the IAF asks for premature retirement on compassionate grounds, these cases are investigated and, when found genuine, the officer is allowed to proceed on premature retirement."

The IAF also said it was investigating the suicide attempt.


We have to ensure that cockpit vacancies are kept filled at all times, as failure to do so would jeopardise national security

Indian Air Force

But the angry and frustrated pilots say they feel they made a mistake by joining the force.

Many of them challenge the IAF's claim that they are given basic facilities such as free accommodation.

One officer with more than 15 years of service said: "Whether you are posted in a small or a big city, you are not given an accommodation of more than two small rooms.

"If on a two-year posting, you are moving houses every six months. Only those who do it know the stress they undergo."

Commercial airlines

But the IAF says the terms and conditions of service are made known to the young men and women at the time of joining.

It says millions of rupees are spent on training them to become pilots.

"We have to ensure that cockpit vacancies are kept filled at all times, as failure to do so would jeopardise national security," it says.

But an added complication has been the emergence of many new private airlines in India that has led to a massive demand for trained pilots.

Many of them see the air force pilots as their best bet.

The BBC asked one of the pilots whether he and his colleagues were looking to leave the force to join commercial airlines for higher salaries and a better lifestyle.

"What is wrong even if we do plan to become commercial pilots?" he said in response.

"We have given the best part of our life to the country. I would also request you to have a look at the lists of candidates applying for commercial pilots' licenses.

"You would be shocked to find majority of those are relatives of senior commanders, and in some case these seniors themselves," he alleged.

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What do you guys have to say about this? I think Indian media should rather make news about the bravery, and honouring Indian pilots, and IAF, than spreading news like this. I bet many people dont want to join the IAF because of the crash rate, they dont want to risk their lives, when they can get better jobs in IT industry, or better commericial air lines companies.
 
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WebMaster said:
What do you guys have to say about this? I think Indian media should rather make news about the bravery, and honouring Indian pilots, and IAF, than spreading news like this. I bet many people dont want to join the IAF because of the crash rate, they dont want to risk their lives, when they can get better jobs in IT industry, or better commericial air lines companies.

The pay that they recieve compared to the commercial aricraft operates is way too low.

And with the boom in aviation industry in India the need for experienced pilots are zooming,an industry where they had only 2-4 doemstic operators is now seeing frenzied activity with the launch of new airliners.

And the law is that you cannot get foeign pilots to get to fly thee planes in the domestic carriers.

So from where will thes epilots come to fly the new planes?Theanswer is IAF which has got lots of experienced pilots.

THERE IS NOTHING TO HIDE IN THIS MATTER AND THIS HAS BEEN REPORTED AND DISCUSSED IN INDIAN MEDIA BEFORE.
 
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WebMaster said:
I bet many people dont want to join the IAF because of the crash rate, they dont want to risk their lives, when they can get better jobs in IT industry, or better commericial air lines companies.

Pilost dont get jobs in IT industry they are totally diferent filed,piltos know how to fly planes and thats what they can do,whether it be amilitary aircraft or a domestic aircraft.

If dieing is the fear then we shoulnd se anyone coming in for joining the amry,paramilitary forces,police etc etc.This division has the highest fatalities among the all arms Indian forces.

So why is that same level of 'fear' is not seen in IA,Police ,BSF etc??there are still thousands and thousands who turn up at recruitement rallies.
 
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WebMaster said:
What do you guys have to say about this? I think Indian media should rather make news about the bravery, and honouring Indian pilots, and IAF, than spreading news like this. I bet many people dont want to join the IAF because of the crash rate, they dont want to risk their lives, when they can get better jobs in IT industry, or better commericial air lines companies.
Don't see too much into this report or assume, as the issue has recieved wide coverage in Indian media. The IAF pilots who want to leave pre-maturely want to do so to join the booming commercial airlines, where the pay is much more. No airforce will release their pilots before time after investing considerable amount on the training. These pilots should have thought about 'making money' before joining up.

BTW, the IAF crash rate bad but it is still better than that of the PAF.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_10-1-2005_pg7_41
http://www.defencejournal.com/aug98/airaccidents.htm
 
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Kinda reminds me of the Old Soviet Union....is india headed towards mass chaos in its armed forces? Is the break up of india imininent?
 
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RAPTOR said:
Kinda reminds me of the Old Soviet Union....is india headed towards mass chaos in its armed forces? Is the break up of india imininent?
No, don't think so.
Its merely a storm in a glass of water.
Media is making more of it than it is, as usually.
 
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we have also seen that not only iaf pilots but some of indian army men also want to quit..the excuse is same..but i dont think iaf will find any difficulties if these pilots quit as they can get new one.
 
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That is happening primarily because of pay difference. After two decades of growth, private companies offer much better perks than salaried government in addition to all responsibilities one has to have.

Unfortunately, Indian government would have to assume a set number of attrition rate. Increasing pay can help some, but I dont think India can keep the pace of private companies. India stands #1 in salary rise for last couple of years and it is showing.
 
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That was really Awesome !
What are You guys discussing here ??? A 3 Yr old News ?

Last Updated: Monday, 10 April 2006, 14:49 GMT 15:49 UK

Now the situation is just opposite after the 6th Pay Commission.
The salaries have doubled/tripled actually.

In Indian Armed forces, The Officers are getting close to $2000 as Salary Now!!
PLus arrears of $10,000 to $20,000 under the pay revision

Add to it the Free Facilities, Transport , Education ; Its one of the Best Jobs in India.
 
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